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Date Posted: 17:36:16 04/13/05 Wed
Author: Joe
Subject: Re: What would you consider "manipulation"?
In reply to: elia 's message, "Re: What would you consider "manipulation"?" on 16:49:38 04/13/05 Wed

>"I understand that there was some forcing in Abe Lee's
>interfering in the mentioned marriage. Or should we
>see that in "the positive way?""
>actually i read that, too. but believe me in this
>point: not everything that is written on ubf-info is
>true. at least there are things which can be
>misleading.
>just because there is written "Abraham Lee interfered
>in the typical UBF way with the marriage of Markus
>Keums daughter." everybody thinks: "oh, that again, a
>ubf leader who manipulates another wedding and forcing
>people to do this or that." (in fact, none of that is
>written.)
>THIS situation wasn't that way. i don't think that i'm
>allowes to comment too much on that thing. but i was
>present and i can witness that this concern wasn't
>just the typical stereotyped ubf "thing".

I quoted the above from the Bonn Chronology at ubf-info.de and then commented, "I understand that there was some forcing in Abe Lee's interfering in the mentioned marriage." My understanding of the situation comes from German sources, even one in Cologne. And according to my sources, THIS situation of Keum's daughter was all too typical of forced UBF manipulation in the area of marriage. I know it was an atypical situation, but the manipulation was all too typical.

>believe me.

Based on my experiences with the claims of other 2ndgens (including ones that I know) in past months, I'll make a generalization: current UBF 2ndgens are generally not to be believed. Understand that I was in your shoes when I was your age.

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I'd like to believe -- Joe, 21:57:00 04/13/05 Wed
- Re: I'd like to believe -- elia, 15:45:25 04/14/05 Thu