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Date Posted: 04:41:09 10/12/04 Tue
Author: Olaf Theis
Subject: Re: one of the biggest problems
In reply to: Brian Karcher 's message, "Re: one of the biggest problems" on 08:11:31 10/11/04 Mon

>During a summer Bible conference, I was in the same
>group Bible study as Sarah Barry. Do you know what she
>did? She was not the group Bible study leader. She
>attended the study, listened to the group leader, made
>a few contributions and wrote and shared a testimony
>just as if she was a first year Bible student. I have
>seen so many examples of senior leaders acting like
>this that show me our ministry is not a pyramid scheme
>designed to serve some hidden agenda. The leaders are
>not afraid to teach obedience and commitment, but
>there are many examples of leaders serving,
>submitting, and learning.
>
That doesn�t mean anything! I once was leading group bible study with Abraham K. Lee attending. But he still is the leader of Cologne UBF. And as a leader in UBF there is no accountability to others, at least not to those who are of an "lower rank". For example, he can dismiss people if he like to do that, like a king.
>
>I would agree with this point. UBF is more like an
>army than a company. That is not so strange. Apostle
>Paul uses the image of soldiers, armor and spiritual
>warfare quite effectively. No one can deny that
>Christians are in a spiritual war, fighting the good
>fight of faith.

The point is that there are certain rules in an army. And the rules in the �UBF-army� are not made by Christ Jesus but they are man made rules.

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On soldiers and armies -- Chris, 06:23:16 10/12/04 Tue
- Armies At Least Have Courts Martial -- former, 07:48:05 10/12/04 Tue