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Date Posted: 12:26:31 10/03/04 Sun
Author: jim
Subject: our arguments are circular...

You guys are responding to things I never said.
You quoting scriptures that have nothing to do with the point. Although I suppose my point was not clear enough.

Lets take this one step at a time.

1. A lot of accusations in this forum have been false, only to add emphasis at how bad UBF is and why you should not join it. Including many empty worded arguments denying from fact.


2. To say all of UBF is wrong is like saying all Luthern's are wrong. And also is declaring that I am wrong. Please be factual and precise.


3. There exist people in UBF who are false profits. Just as there exists in Luthern churches false profits.


4. Being that there are bad intensions in UBF, it would be beneficial to start with each chapter. (I am all for the word of God vs the word of UBF).


I was reading a little on your site about how you guys started the first anti-ubf (i'll use the term aubf) bible study.
Being that aubf starts a ministry which is fully dedicated to Christ, there will always be members who have not accepted Christ.


What scares me is there are several programmed people in my ministry that are merely robots. This already has evidence that UBF may be leading to cult.

As a follower of Christ, I am determined to not participate in anything that does not follow Christ.

So everything that I have been asked to participate in, I have asked if this were against Christ.

One thing interesting is I asked a daughter of the head of our chapter what she is going to do. She said "feed sheep."
I said "why?" She said "to please my father"

This was a very big concern to me, because it seems as if a "better" answer would have been "To serve God who has delivered me from sin and death by sending his son Jesus Christ"

I also think my fellowship group is much different than that of another of my friend's who is sketchy about UBF.


Another note. When I was younger I had an amazing relationship with Jesus because of a nanny who took care of me. Although I told God I would leave during highschool. At which I denied God for 4 years.

I was then reunited with the Love of Christ after studying one-to-one bible study with my american shepherd.

The thing is. Christ will win. The followers of Christ have overcome the world.

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