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Subject: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2024, 12:55: pm AV She kind of messed up my fantasy of exposing her to the idea of children needing an enema from time to time. I thought she would be so embarrassed by me asking her help to clean him out that she might not even want to sit for us any more. Wow! Did I miss the mark! I was hoping she would feel duty bound to agree to my request and I could fulfill my fantasy of seeing her reaction of junior getting an enema and put on the toilet to empty. She is so grounded and grown up for her age. I definitely want to get her over for another one of his enemas. It just so happens that the one night husband I like most about going out once in a while is that we like Sundays. He isn't tired from work and most restaurants aren't real busy on Sundays. I've just lost the chance to introduce her to enemas. A small let down. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2024, 06:36: pm I think you are also giving her an opportunity to have someone to talk to about enemas. She might even be able to help junior enjoy them. Casually ask her about her thoughts on what she thinks about a high enema. Give you some more feedback. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, October 12, 2024, 05:24: pm AV Well she had his bottoms off him and on his way to the toilet with his suppository in him to empty his rectum for his enema nozzle when we walked in the door. It takes about fifteen minutes for the suppository to kick in on him and it took us about 20 minutes to get home so she must have jumped up off the couch when she got off the phone with me and got his suppository put in him before he knew what hit him. She was chatting me up that she has experienced Fleet enemas for as long as long as she can remember while we were filling his bag like we were talking about gardening or her favorite food. I'm convinced she couldn't believe her luck that I asked her to help with his clean out. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, October 12, 2024, 08:34: pm Shelly, What was her reaction to the technique you used given him his enema? or even being in there? How did junior respond even? I am convinced she probably like us all fantasizes about enemas and here she is helping with one. Fulled a dream im sure. Probably also waiting until the next invite to sit on a Sunday evening. Don’t pitch yourself. It’s not a dream. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Joyce [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, October 13, 2024, 03:45: pm Shelly, How is Junior adapting to your weekly routine? Or is he, at least, struggling and yelling less? Using a suppository to cause him to have a BM before his enema should make it possible for you to gently work the end of your douche nozzle up into his sigmoid colon. This will allow the enema to flow directly into his colon for a good clean out using somewhat less volume. It will also help reduce discomfort from pressure in his rectum during the enema. The reduced discomfort may also make it possible for him to retain the enema for a while before he has to defecate. I hope you can garner the courage soon to ask your sitter to let you give her a slightly larger version of the enemas you are giving Junior so that she will understand what he feels. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Sandra [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2024, 05:22: pm Shelly, Be careful about giving your sitter an enema. Be sure she has reached the "age of consent" if you do. I don't know where you live, and statutory rape laws vary from state to state. You might be OK if her parents approve, but this could come around to "bite you" at some future date if your sitter or her parents later get into a dispute with you. BE CAREFUL!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2024, 01:21: pm Sandra, you are so right. Never administer a vaginal or rectal treatment to a minor without the parent's consent or participation. If we get her to where she wants a high enema it will be with mom's complete knowledge and cooperation. The manufacturers of oral laxatives and disposable Fleet enemas almost managed to make mom's home enema treatments go extinct but they are making a comeback. Convinced most Doctor's that mom's home enema was child abuse. Now we have generation's of children that hold in their poop, become encopric. AV's mom treated his holding with enemas as she should have. My mom's Dr. had her treat my holding with mag. citrate and diapers. Six years old! Kept home from school in diapers having runny poops for several days with oral laxatives! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2024, 01:39: pm Joyce So I splurged and bought a high quality clear vinyl larger enema bag and a soft deep insertion nozzle. Just got it and the nozzle is super pliable. A little longer than the douche nozzle I've always had. Going to do an enema this afternoon to try it out as far as insertion past the rectum cavity. It instructs to have some lubrication in the rectum not just on the nozzle and then gently insert while rotating the nozzle back and forth 10 to 20 degrees. Little fellow didn't have to have his suppository Sunday last because he was able to poop on his own before his enema. Yes he is getting more upset and more defiant and threatening violence on me not less with each Sunday's enema. I don't think he is going to be one of those kids that easily grows in to enjoying his enema. The deep nozzle came just in time, he thought it wise to expel his enema on me while I'm giving it to him. I put him on the toilet for about a half hour while I cleaned myself up, refilled his bag and we did it all over again. He is not interested in any atta boy or good job or here's a hug I love you after he is done. It's pajamas on, in bed and off to sleep, just wants to be left alone. Oh well, it's just once a week. Come Monday or Tuesday he loves me again, is happy. Still doesn't care for school. He is a mama's boy all the way. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Joyce [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2024, 10:13: pm Shelly, Were you able to try your new bag and nozzle? Is the nozzle straight or does it have some curvature to it? Were you able to get it all the way in? How did it feel? Are you planning to use it for Junior's next enema? If you can get it all the way into him without forcing it you should be able to use a significantly smaller volume (with less chance of an "accident" as the enema goes into him) and still get good results with less discomfort. Hope all goes well! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2024, 01:57: pm AV Well as we got the bag almost full she asked me if he was getting more than one enema or why was there so much water in the bag. I told he can take the whole bag and that adults can easily take twice that much. Junior was mum, not a word out of him. He was just wishing I'm sure it would all be over quickly. He looked at me and her like "can we get this over real quick, I know I'm captive so let's get on with it". I sat and pushed him down over my leg and she watched me lube him. I told her why I was using Crisco and she remarked that her mom makes her use Vaseline. I told why to stop using that. I started his enema and she asked if he can feel the enema going up inside his tummy so far and if it hurts to have that much water put in you. I explained to her how it feels having your colon being filled and about the cramping but that it isn't anything unmanageable for him. I told her that when getting a large enema that you have to work on trying to hold and take it in and sometimes you have to stop and let them catch up with the pressure and that's why you want butt up and tummy down. She absorbed it all and was so calm and cool like she had given dozens of enemas. She said she can barely hold a Fleet enema for two or three minutes. She had to leave as soon as we got him filled and getting him up and on the toilet. Not this coming Sunday but the next, hubby and I might like to go out for dinner so she will get another opportunity to help clean him out. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, October 18, 2024, 05:38: am Shelly, Sounds like she is a level headed young lady. I read your other post. Seems junior isn’t a fan of enemas. I could not believe he released early on you. He is being defiant isn’t he? Probably thought that was the end until you returned and refilled the enema bag. Wonder if having the sitter help is helping junior? He doesn’t want to act up in front of her. He will have to grow into liking the enemas though. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 09:32: am Breaking news, So I gave myself an enema with the new larger volume bag and the colon nozzle. What a different experience. I knew the flow had started but it took a few seconds for me to feel anything in my rectum. You don't get the instant pressure and urge to constrict to hold it in. I wanted to see if I could take almost two and a half quarts. It was a huge struggle for the last several ounces but I managed to take the whole bag. Proud of myself for doing that. I still love/have enemas. But I like the calm after. It was so easy to rotate the nozzle as inserting to get it past the rectum bend to the sigmoid. I got a medical syringe and fill it with Crisco and inject it in the rectum to lubricate. Worked great. So, little guy, same treatment. I lubed him with the Crisco injection and then took my time getting the nozzle all the way in him. He took the enema so easily and quicker. He hates me on enema night but loves me the rest of the week. So really, it's not me he hates, it's the enema. Oh well. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Bonnie's Kid [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2024, 09:59: am It is interesting that administering an enema with colon/rectal tube provides additional comfort as opposed to a typical nozzle. Many older medical texts suggested this to provide a "high enema" versus a "low enema" that merely empties the rectum. As a youngster, I resisted and resented my mom at enema time which was pretty common. Our pediatrician advocated enemas as a treatment for most digestive issues. I did get past this aversion as I got older, upon coming to realize that an enema could provide a great deal of relief as well as stimulation that sealed my use for nearly 70 years. As far as enemas go, my mom was no longer the enemy. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, October 24, 2024, 04:37: am Shelly, It’s going to be very interesting when the younger one comes to age. Two receiving enemas and the older one being 2-3 years into it and his younger brother starts receiving. What’s the younger brother’s reaction right now seeing his older brother getting enemas? How do you think the older will react once the younger one joins him? Will be interesting to see in a couple of years. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, October 24, 2024, 06:20: am Hey AV It's kind of funny because they fight over everything, "he has this and I want it". "Why does he get that and I don't." My three year old is upset with me that I upset his older brother when it is his enema time. He has no clue this is in store for him when he starts school. His enemas may be starting earlier than expected. I think he is responding to his brother's toilet escapades with starting to resist bowel movements, not sure. Has needed two suppositories to make him go in just the last three weeks. My enema boy has not complained that he has to get cleaned out but his brother doesn't. And just as his little brother reacted I'm sure he will be agitated with me if and when I give his little brother an enema. They don't like it when I hurt the feelings of their sibling. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2024, 04:39: am Shelly, I love this. Shows how much they love one another and the bond they have for each other. You are raising some amazing boys. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2024, 10:25: am Yeah I was the same way with my brother and sister. I felt bad for them when stepmom made them have their enema. But I looked forward to my step brothers and sisters having to have an enema. I would try to get invited in by the step sister who shared her bedroom with the one who was just put on the toilet chair with her enema in her. Except for one of them helping to hold my brother for his enemas nobody got to watch enemas being given but there was no rule that the child once on the toilet chair in their shared bedroom had right to privacy. My little sister was so naive. I would threaten her over and over if she let someone look or come in on me when I'm sitting with my enema in me but she did over and over, boys and girls. The step brother that was known to feign sickness so he could have an enema was famous for getting my sister to at least stand at the door, wide open, while he asks her a question about something, anything, so he can stand there and look at me on my enema commode. It would happen occasionally for years. I grew to understand that a couple of them, a stepsister included offered her favors for a peek at me. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, November 01, 2024, 09:25: am Joyce, I'm sure so much more of his enema is getting deeper in his colon with the deep inserted nozzle. As I said I have a medical syringe if fill with about two table spoons of Crisco and squirt the Crisco into his rectum then slowly while rotating the nozzle insert it all the way in. It's about 8 inches long. It doesn't take but just about a minute to get past the rectum and into his sigmoid. The enema flows so well and I can tell by his reaction when I start the enema that he doesn't even realize it has started yet because it isn't filling his rectum until we are well into his filling. Like this technique so much, thanks for pushing me to try it. I've heard of colon tubes being used to insert literally a foot or more into the colon for deep enema cleansing but thought they weren't real. It makes sense if you want a high enema that you want to try to start the flow in the colon and not in the rectum because it has a sort of spinchter between it and the sigmoid too. That's how contractions in the rectum trying to make you poop makes it come out of the anus instead of going back up in the colon. His enemas are going well. He doesn't physically fight me. He just begs and fake cries to try to get out of it. He is managing to give me a poop before his enema if I wait late enough in the evening so he doesn't have to have the suppository prep before his enema. He is pooping almost like clock work always on Wed. and Fri. and then again on Sun. in the evenings or late afternoons. Very satisfied with that. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, November 01, 2024, 07:58: pm Shelly, I have to ask, is it safe to use crisco? I just can’t see using that. That is so thick. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, November 02, 2024, 06:18: am AV AV AV, Crisco is edible! Used for generations for cooking. See Joyce's post in the other thread for Aug. 30. Vaseline can be irritating as I have experienced myself. Crisco is not water soluble so it will not dilute when meeting with watery liquid in the rectum or colon so the lubricating effect lasts throughout insertion and enema administration. As it is slowly warmed up while in contact with the body it becomes even more viscous and slippery. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, November 02, 2024, 06:37: am Shelly, I have a hard time with vaseline, could not see myself using crisco. So glad the enemas are going well and junior is giving you some nice bowel movements on Wednesday and Fridays. So glad as well, he is still a momma’s boy through and through except on Sunday evenings, lol. I am still surprised by the sitter already getting enemas and so mature for her age. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, November 08, 2024, 05:58: pm I wanted to try another enema with the deep nozzle. It was such a different sensation starting the enema when I tried the nozzle I bought for inserting past Juniors rectum and into the sigmoid. I like the Crisco for lubricant. I like the sensation of inserting it in me and the inserting of the nozzle deep in me. I really enjoyed the enema. I took two and a half quarts. Largest enema I've ever had. It takes some time after you start the enema to feel an urgent need to hold in your rectum and squeeze so you don't leak. So yeah, AV, babysitter is sitting for us Sunday eve. We can't stay out late because Junior has to get to bed at a decent time to get up for school in the morning. I asked her if she would like to help with his clean out again and if she did that she needed to tell her mom she was helping. She has sat for me in the past and changed diapers so her mom knows she does those kind of things. Training for when being a mom herself right? She couldn't say yes fast enough. Probably was wondering when I was ever going to need her to sit for us again and secretly hoping it would be an Sunday. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Av [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, November 09, 2024, 09:39: am Shelly, You are basically allowing your sitter to live out her fantasy of being able to give someone an enema. You know she probably fantasized as we all did. I will be the first to say, I am proud of you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, November 11, 2024, 06:44: am Well AV, I had to spoil her excitement for the evening. Our 4 year old is sick with a low grade fever and throwing up so we didn't get to go out last night for dinner. When I called her I could tell she was so disappointed she wouldn't be sitting for us. I pay her well but I know that is not now why she likes sitting on Sunday so much. I simply told her that she didn't need to sit for us because I was staying home with the youngest who was sick. I didn't mention our 6 year old or that we were planning on her helping to clean him out. But she did. She said "does ----- still have to have his enema tonight". I said yes. I should have invited her over to help because I know that's what she was hoping I would do but I just was wanting to keep things simple with his enema last night so I could deal with the sick boy. She didn't ask if she could come over anyway and that was the end of our conversation. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Babysitter grew up with enemas Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, November 11, 2024, 10:43: am Shelly, Sorry to hear about your 4 year old. Hope he is feeling better. I think you are absolutely right about the sitter. She enjoys Sundays because of the 6 year olds enema. You will have to make it up to her, you know that right? You have been in that fantasy position before and i can only imagine how she felt when her excitement was spoiled. How did the 6 year old handle his enema? Did he think he wasn’t getting it since the 4 year old was sick? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]