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Subject: Re: Teen withholds her stools Author: Shelly [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2024, 01:52: pm In reply to: Kitten Paw 's message, "Re: Teen withholds her stools" on Saturday, December 14, 2024, 11:49: am Kitten Paw, You are in good hands. Your mom knows her herbal enema treatments. They say feed a fever starve a cold. If you aren't able to keep anything down then your enemas are very important. They are keeping you hydrated. That's a good thing that the enemas make you urinate often. And she knows if you go too long without eating that she can give you nutrition in your enemas also. That's why you are getting several enemas. Relax and let them comfort you. Don't hold back your urine because he has a diaper on you. Keep your bladder empty and ask mom for a dry one. Play along with him if that makes him think he is winning. Empty your bladder and ask mom for a dry one. The fifteen year old that I am treating has dodged a bullet so far of a treatment they do if a child shows up at their hospital and is impacted in their colon and an x-ray shows a large stool lodged in their colon that won't move even after an enema or two. After you are in your hospital bed usually three or four nurses and aids come in and they physically hold your arms and shoulders and even head if you struggle as they insert a tube up through your nose and down in to your stomach. Most kids do struggle and fight them because it does not feel good when the tube gets to the back of your throat. It makes you gag and kids don't like that. Then you will get an IV so they can keep you nourished and ad sedatives to smooth you out psychologically so you don't act out on them because they are going to over the course of the next three days or so (it takes that long to finally get that mass to move) pump gallons and gallons of PEG through you. It is enema by mouth. In about an hour you will be in diapers. You have an IV and a tube down your throat and when you start going it will be so often that the only way the nurses can manage it is to make all those gallons of PEG come out in a diaper. Over three days you will have many different nurses and likely even some male nurses come in and clean your bottom and give you a fresh diaper. There are at least dozens if not hundreds of children, even teenagers that are getting that hospital clean out right now. You got this. He won't win. You are in diapers but you are home and nobody ever needs to know about it. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Teen withholds her stools Author: Kitten Paw [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2024, 03:13: pm I know. I'm okay. I'm just delirious. I hallucinate. I can't even keep hot tea down. I know I need the enemas. I just am so sick. Mom says 103 temp doesn't worry her. And that is my rectal temp and she says oral would be lower. I had my last cool enema in the middle of the night. Now I'm getting body temp enemas to nourish and hydrate. I had one of those just before dad got up. She says I'll need one in a couple of hours and then one before I go to bed tonight. I haven't been this sick since I was really little. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Teen withholds her stools Author: Kitten Paw [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2024, 03:36: pm I just read what her mom told you about how happy she is. I told you she will not sass you. I told you she knows enemas are here to stay. I told you she wants a mom type but not her own mom and not a big sister type to give her her enemas. If you hadn't told her you needed her over tomorrow by tonight she would have texted you saying something like "is ( ) feeling better is he still getting an enema tomorrow?. Hoping it will get you to ask her if she has had a bowel movement after her enemas Wednesday. Hoping you would then say I want you to come over tomorrow because we need to get a bowel movement from you. I know her. You rescued her. She doesn't want to lose you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Teen withholds her stools Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2024, 07:45: pm And I predict that you will be an enema mom. You will know from what your mom teaches about taking care of your health with her enemas and from integrating your experimentation with your sexuality and trying to orgasm when you have your enema in you that you will want to give your kids enemas. In the 50's and 60's most households had an enema bulb syringe or enema bag. I said MOST not some. And MOST kids knew what an enema was. And it wasn't considered sexual abuse until laxative and prepackaged enema manufacturers convinced Doctors that they should be the only ones allowed to put their finger up a child's butt. Let that sink in. And encopresis was not in the dictionary yet because if a child had an accident or got caught hiding, standing, legs crossed, face red, unwilling to move, that child got an enema pronto! I predict you already wish you could give a child an enema so you can see their fear, their reaction. I wanted so bad to watch one of my older step sisters get her enema but stepmom didn't allow it. When I was in college my roommate and I slowly got sexual with each other. Mom sent an enema bag to college with me but I never used it. I didn't like the idea of giving myself an enema. But dorm rooms are small you can't hide anything. I know she found my enema bag. A couple months from the end of first school year living with her she was in bed like you feeling really sick. I had fantasized about giving her an enema. We had been naked together but nothing totally intense or intimate. My heart was beating so hard I thought it was going to burst but I filled the bag and told her I was going to give her an enema. She said she didn't want an enema but I had gotten this far and she was going to have to physically fight me off. I said I don't care you are sick and you need an enema. And I gave her the enema. We ended up being in bed sexually eventually and we used enemas sometimes to get things warmed up. And like if your dad found out you talk to us, if my husband found out I'm bisexual he would string me up by my toes. But truth trail, you already are predisposed to give some child an enema at your first opportunity. But you will be a good girl and only give him that enema because he needs it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Teen withholds her stools Author: Kitten Paw [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2024, 11:33: pm Okay my fever broke just before my enema. Mom says it is back to normal. 99.8 rectal. You forgot and I'm the one with delirium. I get to help mom give enemas at patients homes. And yes I hope they try to fight us so I can help her control them and give them their enemas and see the fear in their eyes and I love it especially when the boys cry and beg and we give them their enemas anyway. 13 year old boy was my favorite and one of the first ones I went with to help mom. He had never had an enema and he cried and begged like a 4 year old girl. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Teen withholds her stools Author: Kitten Paw [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, December 15, 2024, 10:37: am No more rectal temps and no more enemas woohoo! And I'm starving. That was a rough one! I agree with Joyce that she will feel comforted if you let her feel like she has some choice in how her enemas go but here's the deal. I have channeled her and this is what she will tell you she doesn't like. She has seen that picture of the knee-chest enema position on the Fleet enema box a hundred times and seen herself and she doesn't like it. 50 50 chance her first ever enemas in her life from mom were in that position. And she was told now don't get up, stay right there until you feel like you can't hold it anymore. When mom started allowing her, no that's making her, give herself her Fleet enema I guarantee she does not use that position. She feels comforted with the contact of your bodies when she is over your leg. And a reassuring hand on her back rubbing her and talking her down off her anxiety. Her biggest triggers right now is not that you have her in a certain position for her enemas. Her triggers are the sensations of you lubricating her rectum with that applicator and then the nozzle moving through her rectum and the feeling of getting full with her enema knowing that she will soon be on the toilet trying to get it back out which is also a big trigger for her because the nurses stood there for three hours watching and listening to her get her enemas back out. Talk her through those triggers that you can't remove. One of them you can remove. All children learn at about 3 or 4 years old that you don't share sitting on the toilet to poop with anybody because mom doesn't. She doesn't want these enemas today but she does want you, Shelly, to be the one that gives them to her. Help her with her triggers about taking enemas. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Teen withholds her stools Author: Andrea [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, December 15, 2024, 03:49: pm Wow what a bright and thoughtful young lady! Kitten Paw you hit on all the high points and it is because you live them. Lord knows you lived them this weekend. Good girl for helping Shelly through this even though you were in such misery yourself this weekend. You are very unselfish. I have followed Shelly's posting here from the beginning and although I never had enemas as a child I have a withholder child. She is 10 now and has suffered incredible torture with oral laxatives with no sign of hope. I was in the drug store a few months ago with her in tow buying laxatives and pull ups and baby wipes. She had tears in her eyes and clinging to me like a lost puppy. And you could tell that under her pajamas she had on a pull up. Their little bottom looks a lot bigger than it really is with a pull up on under jammies. A very young mom with about a 5 year old was behind us checking out too. She followed us to my car and asked if she could talk to me. Long story short, she somehow just knew what was going on. Her little boy had started withholding a year ago. She also was told to give oral meds. She got on line and found the M O P program for bedwetting and thought why can't it work for kids that won't let their stools out. My precious is now on the M O P for going on five months. She gets a small enema every night before bed. She will be on it for at least another year. That is not from any Doctor's orders. That is from mom's orders who found a way to rescue her. She is very fine with her nightly enema and will ask for it frequently. Then in a year I will free her from the enema and she can manage her bowel movements. Kitten Paw your mom is doing the work of an angel. Go with her as often as she needs you to get some poor child cleaned out so they can be put on maintenance enemas. Your explanation of what the sitter's triggers are were 100% square on and I'll bet Shelly read it over a couple of times until she memorized it. Love to you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]