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Subject: JBL is "Joy Beauty Love" Author: Maude [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Thursday, February 20, 2025, 09:21: pm I am a Great Grandmother in my 70's. The JBL enema bag was always and still is the preferred method of getting an enema in a child in our family . Or adult for that matter. I witnessed a few enemas given over a mother's lap or on the kitchen table with all sorts of devices and syringes. Neighbor's kids, mom's sister's kids, toddlers and adolescents. It was rare in the 50's to be a child that had not experienced enemas. Kitten Paw, I can remember having slumber parties with several girls and we would do actual rectal temps and sneak the enema nozzle and insert it and pretend to give enemas. The early JBL nozzles then were not any different from just a small rectal nozzle is nowadays. RB I grew up with three sisters and one brother. We sat on the JBL once every week for an enema. But we were allowed privacy. We got our enema on a different night from the other siblings. Count your blessings with monthly enema and not weekly. The early JBL bags didn't have a flow control valve but the holes were very small so you still got your enema delivered at a decent tolerable pace. I used the same procedure on my three daughters as mom did and as you described RB. High chair until you are too big for it. Then a tall chair so your feet don't reach the floor so you can not lift yourself off the bag. Enemas were started at school age. The younger children (and this is true even now for my great grand children who are of enema age now) knowing what the enemas are because their older sisters are getting them, often fight and have to have spankings to get compliance. But they eventually cooperate. Maybe the first three of four times they have to be spanked AV and then they give in. I was able to purchase JBL bags with flow control for my daughters and my grand daughters and step grand daughters have a few JBL bags but the JBL bag just isn't available and hasn't been for several years and they eventually just give out and leak. But we have a step stool for the child to step to the high chair or tall kitchen chair and turn around and mom spreads their cheeks while they lower to feel for the point of the nozzle to touch their anus and then they lower down all the way on to the bag. For the first two years or so they always have their arms ace bandaged together too so they can't lift up off the bag because we let them be alone with bathroom door closed for the 20 minutes we want them sitting on the bag. The JBL bag will hold over 5 liters but there is a lot of water still in the bag even when an adult sits on it for an enema. So we would usually put three liters in for a young child and then increase as they grow to get an acceptable enema in them. I stopped mandatory weekly enemas when they started High School but all my daughters still took an enema on occasion because that is just what they knew as normal bowel health. And they did the same with their daughters. I have currently 12 great grandchildren that get weekly enemas or are approaching enema age. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: JBL is "Joy Beauty Love" Author: Kitten Paw [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, February 22, 2025, 01:51: pm Maude, that is so interesting. I'm picturing an adolescent sitting on the JBL with their feet dangling and their arms crossed and wrapped together so they can't stop the flow of their enema and sitting there for 20 minutes yelling for you to see if they are out of time yet and can get on the toilet. Just sitting there with their own thoughts and feeling their enema continuing to work up inside them. You talked a lot about girls but are there not very many boy children? Do you still give enemas at your house to great grandchildren? Did you give them to grandchildren? Does anybody ever leak and make a mess sitting to take an enema? So your mom most likely got shaved and an enema every time she gave birth. Did you have your children in the 1970's? Did they make you have enemas too? Mom has medical journals and bulletins that I snoop through on our home PC. A lot of new Obstetric Male Doctors again order an enema for labor rooms because they don't like dealing with poop. The bulletins say the new moms can say no to the enema but the Doctor's tell the nurses not to tell them they can say no so they don't know any better and they get the enemas. My BFF is fascinated by my getting enemas regularly and we are plotting to get her here for a weekend and have her pretend to be feeling bad with a tummy ache to see if we can trick mom into giving her a 3H enema! I think she is nuts! I told her she won't like it but she is obsessed to get an enema telling my mom that she has never had an enema (she really hasn't) and that please don't give her an enema but mom telling her it is best to get an enema and get it over with to make her tummy ache go away. We are going to try to pull it off over Easter vacation. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: JBL is "Joy Beauty Love" Author: Bonnie's Kid (Joy...full) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, February 22, 2025, 08:23: pm I really enjoyed your post Maude. It conjured up many memories from back in the "golden age" where enemas were far more common. I have had experience with the JBL knockoffs. It was a rather unique way to irrigate the lower bowel and allow for some movement and free hands. Those knockoffs did have a flow control lever. The downside was that they invariably leaked. For some reason, it always seemed that a greater volume could be administered, even though seated. When I finally gave mine up, I fashioned an "enema chair" that seemed to be a viable alternative. A pvc patio chair was cheap and easily adapted to allow a seated enema without fear of soiling fabric cushions etc. If desired, it could be used in the shower stall or tub to further alleviate concerns about soiling. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: JBL is "Joy Beauty Love" Author: Maude [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, February 23, 2025, 07:53: pm Well I don't have a JBl any more. I have to use the new vinyl bags and tubing for enemas so I don't give any of my great grandchildren enemas with a JBL. I was still in the enema business with my grandchildren and the mom's and even dad's would ask if I would baby sit at my house or theirs and it is so and so's enema night so could I please give him or her their enema . Kitten Paw I have more grandchildren than great grandchildren whose parents gave regular enemas. Their is a mixture of male and female in all generations but heavy on females. Most but not all of the boys who got enemas did not allow enemas given to their children so I speak mostly of the females who then as parents gave regular enemas. Typical family has four to six children. I have witnessed some great grandchildren getting put on the JBL. I have given some enemas over my leg like most of the enemas described on here to great grandchildren because they are used to a hanging enema bag as their family doesn't have a JBL bag. Yes Bonnie's kid all of the bags we got that had a valve for flow control leak through the control but a large thick bath towel folded over itself two times and put under the JBL is more than enough protection to soak up any leakage. No Kitten Paw it is rare that a child is unable to keep up with the flow of their enema and leak while sitting to take it. Little kids have really tight anus muscles and can hold it like real troopers and as they age and get more and more enemas their anus muscles get quite a work out and get even better at holding in their enema until we let them get off the JBl and on to the toilet. I did birth all of my children in the 70's Kitten Paw. I always sat on my JBL just before heading to the hospital to avoid that indignation. The hospital I gave birth in was very old and over crowded. They had made some large room into a multi purpose pre-labor/admission, labor, and then delivery area with five beds. So while you were in there other young mom's to be would be getting completely shaved, getting enemas, sitting on a bed pan or a chair commode to relieve their enema, and then their delivery. There was no consideration or frankly ability to give a mom to be any privacy. It was all right there for all to see. But there was absolutely no family allowed in at all. We mom's all I think were most humiliated by being completely shaved. Most mom's to be had grown up getting regular enemas and probably were very award a 3H enema was awaiting them as soon as they got in bed. Unlike you young gals now Kitten Paw mommy's to be felt like they were knocked back down a notch like they were made to feel and look like a toddler again when they shaved all of our pubic hair and perineal hair around our anus too. You had so many other things to worry about in there trying to give birth but the indignation of shaving you like baby smooth to use your term was just awful. And then the irritation and itching as it grows back. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: JBL is "Joy Beauty Love" Author: Bonnie's Kid [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, February 24, 2025, 10:09: pm It is interesting to me how generational changes affect the use of many "old-fashioned" treatments. Some say it's economics and a savings of time and effort. Perhaps there is no legitimate place for those various treatments. I am an oldster who grew up with enemas for many maladies. Mom and grandma wore out enema and douche bags as they got used frequently. Eventually, I began self-administration to avoid or minimize embarrassment and soon found them effective and comfortable, even pleasurable under the right circumstances. It was clearly the medical providers who prescribed and supported mom and grandma in their enema activities. I was even present at childbirth for my 3 kids. Their mom hated those enemas during labor and hardly ever succumbed after the misery of the old 3H enema during the hubbub of labor. I do believe that an enema is a useful tool to avoid the issues of becoming constipated and preventing blockages. The laxative advocates spend millions advocating their use when a pint of two of warm water can quickly address those pesky issues. I survived childhood enemas and still use them. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: JBL is "Joy Beauty Love" Author: Bonnie's Kid [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, March 14, 2025, 06:46: pm I had the opportunity to be present for each birth of my children in the 70's and early 80's. The hospital and doctor encouraged the support. This included all of the prep prior to actual delivery. The soapy enemas were likely the most challenging aspect for mom. Undoubtedly, the pain was very substantial but the enemas were more impactful due to the discomfort and embarrassment. The downside was that an aversion to enemas became quite extreme. I enjoyed an enema, and the immediate relief from digestive distress, as well as the stimulation was great. I had been raised by a mom and grandma who utilized an enema bag for many different conditions. I find it wonderful that many women here have continued the use of enemas for the various conditions and ailments. The older medical community certainly advocated for their use. Maude,...your description of the JBL and facsimiles, brought about some great memories of that process. Why use drugs and chemicals when a pint or two, or quarts of water, can dispatch so many maladies whether physical, medical, or even psychological. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: JBL is "Joy Beauty Love" Author: Kitten Paw [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2025, 10:19: pm A lot more kids get enemas then anybody knows. My mom goes to somebody's house once or twice a week to give a kid their first ever clean out enemas because the mom is afraid to or the kid refuses to let her. I go with her about half of the time so in the last two months I've gone with her to give a stool withholder an enema clean out 8 or 9 times. She needs my help to get the kid pulled down over her left leg and then she clamps the kid in with her right leg and I hold on to their wrists sitting on the floor in front of them. They don't go willingly. They fight and cry and beg and then they get their enema. All but three of the 8 I helped her with were little guys 5 to 7 years old. Two were girls about that age and one just last week was 13. She packs her colon with stool because she tries to hold her bowel movements in and smears her underwear constantly like Shelly's babysitter. Mom always takes the kid in the bathroom with just her and somehow sweet talks them to getting on the toilet for her to just try to have a bowel movement for. I am in the kitchen getting their enema ready. Usually they just get one huge enema but sometimes mom decides they will get a soapy enema and then a rinse enema. She got the 'works'. So I and the mommy then go in the bathroom and she is on the toilet now looking at us in surprise and seeing this bag looking thing with a hose hanging from it and as she is realizing what is about to happen and how she is going to try to prevent it in about five seconds mom has stood her up and put the toilet lid down and sat on it and I pull her down over mom's leg. It happens super fast and they don't even have time to react. Mom went back a few days later and made her let her mom give her an enema. It is exciting for me to help her give a teenager their first ever enema because I still get enemas too but my favorites are the little boys because they are real drama queens and I love looking them in their eyes as they are getting filled up! There's nothing like the sensations of feeling you first ever enema filling you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: JBL is "Joy Beauty Love" Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, March 18, 2025, 08:26: pm Kitten Paw, And I am sure you are smiling at them drama queen boys as you look into their enema filled eyes knowing that all the drama can be saved for their momma as their bottom is filled. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: JBL is "Joy Beauty Love" Author: Samantha [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2025, 05:06: pm I was glad when Momma introduced me to the knee-chest position (about age 7) when started using her enema pump instead of the bulb syringe. Not only did I get a deeper cleansing but with my head down & bottom up like that I didn't have to look anyone in the eyes! Far less embarassing than when she syringed me on my back!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]