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Subject: Re: JBL is "Joy Beauty Love"


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Kitten Paw
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Date Posted: Saturday, February 22, 2025, 01:51: pm
In reply to: Maude 's message, "JBL is "Joy Beauty Love"" on Thursday, February 20, 2025, 09:21: pm

Maude, that is so interesting. I'm picturing an adolescent sitting on the JBL with their feet dangling and their arms crossed and wrapped together so they can't stop the flow of their enema and sitting there for 20 minutes yelling for you to see if they are out of time yet and can get on the toilet. Just sitting there with their own thoughts and feeling their enema continuing to work up inside them. You talked a lot about girls but are there not very many boy children? Do you still give enemas at your house to great grandchildren? Did you give them to grandchildren? Does anybody ever leak and make a mess sitting to take an enema? So your mom most likely got shaved and an enema every time she gave birth. Did you have your children in the 1970's? Did they make you have enemas too? Mom has medical journals and bulletins that I snoop through on our home PC. A lot of new Obstetric Male Doctors again order an enema for labor rooms because they don't like dealing with poop. The bulletins say the new moms can say no to the enema but the Doctor's tell the nurses not to tell them they can say no so they don't know any better and they get the enemas. My BFF is fascinated by my getting enemas regularly and we are plotting to get her here for a weekend and have her pretend to be feeling bad with a tummy ache to see if we can trick mom into giving her a 3H enema! I think she is nuts! I told her she won't like it but she is obsessed to get an enema telling my mom that she has never had an enema (she really hasn't) and that please don't give her an enema but mom telling her it is best to get an enema and get it over with to make her tummy ache go away. We are going to try to pull it off over Easter vacation.

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Bonnie's Kid (Joy...full)
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Date Posted: Saturday, February 22, 2025, 08:23: pm

I really enjoyed your post Maude. It conjured up many memories from back in the "golden age" where enemas were far more common. I have had experience with the JBL knockoffs. It was a rather unique way to irrigate the lower bowel and allow for some movement and free hands.

Those knockoffs did have a flow control lever. The downside was that they invariably leaked. For some reason, it always seemed that a greater volume could be administered, even though seated.

When I finally gave mine up, I fashioned an "enema chair" that seemed to be a viable alternative. A pvc patio chair was cheap and easily adapted to allow a seated enema without fear of soiling fabric cushions etc. If desired, it could be used in the shower stall or tub to further alleviate concerns about soiling.

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Maude
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Date Posted: Sunday, February 23, 2025, 07:53: pm

Well I don't have a JBl any more. I have to use the new vinyl bags and tubing for enemas so I don't give any of my great grandchildren enemas with a JBL. I was still in the enema business with my grandchildren and the mom's and even dad's would ask if I would baby sit at my house or theirs and it is so and so's enema night so could I please give him or her their enema . Kitten Paw I have more grandchildren than great grandchildren whose parents gave regular enemas. Their is a mixture of male and female in all generations but heavy on females. Most but not all of the boys who got enemas did not allow enemas given to their children so I speak mostly of the females who then as parents gave regular enemas. Typical family has four to six children. I have witnessed some great grandchildren getting put on the JBL. I have given some enemas over my leg like most of the enemas described on here to great grandchildren because they are used to a hanging enema bag as their family doesn't have a JBL bag. Yes Bonnie's kid all of the bags we got that had a valve for flow control leak through the control but a large thick bath towel folded over itself two times and put under the JBL is more than enough protection to soak up any leakage. No Kitten Paw it is rare that a child is unable to keep up with the flow of their enema and leak while sitting to take it. Little kids have really tight anus muscles and can hold it like real troopers and as they age and get more and more enemas their anus muscles get quite a work out and get even better at holding in their enema until we let them get off the JBl and on to the toilet. I did birth all of my children in the 70's Kitten Paw. I always sat on my JBL just before heading to the hospital to avoid that indignation. The hospital I gave birth in was very old and over crowded. They had made some large room into a multi purpose pre-labor/admission, labor, and then delivery area with five beds. So while you were in there other young mom's to be would be getting completely shaved, getting enemas, sitting on a bed pan or a chair commode to relieve their enema, and then their delivery. There was no consideration or frankly ability to give a mom to be any privacy. It was all right there for all to see. But there was absolutely no family allowed in at all. We mom's all I think were most humiliated by being completely shaved. Most mom's to be had grown up getting regular enemas and probably were very award a 3H enema was awaiting them as soon as they got in bed. Unlike you young gals now Kitten Paw mommy's to be felt like they were knocked back down a notch like they were made to feel and look like a toddler again when they shaved all of our pubic hair and perineal hair around our anus too. You had so many other things to worry about in there trying to give birth but the indignation of shaving you like baby smooth to use your term was just awful. And then the irritation and itching as it grows back.

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Bonnie's Kid
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Date Posted: Monday, February 24, 2025, 10:09: pm

It is interesting to me how generational changes affect the use of many "old-fashioned" treatments. Some say it's economics and a savings of time and effort. Perhaps there is no legitimate place for those various treatments.

I am an oldster who grew up with enemas for many maladies. Mom and grandma wore out enema and douche bags as they got used frequently. Eventually, I began self-administration to avoid or minimize embarrassment and soon found them effective and comfortable, even pleasurable under the right circumstances.

It was clearly the medical providers who prescribed and supported mom and grandma in their enema activities. I was even present at childbirth for my 3 kids. Their mom hated those enemas during labor and hardly ever succumbed after the misery of the old 3H enema during the hubbub of labor.

I do believe that an enema is a useful tool to avoid the issues of becoming constipated and preventing blockages. The laxative advocates spend millions advocating their use when a pint of two of warm water can quickly address those pesky issues. I survived childhood enemas and still use them.

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