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Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: James [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Tuesday, November 25, 2025, 07:54: pm In reply to: Jim 's message, "double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa" on Monday, November 24, 2025, 10:51: pm To Jim; I have read of this stuff about men swimming naked and women wearing suits. This was really the case and there was even an organization called the American Public Health Association that recommended nude swimming for men in the early 1900's and renewed that recommendation every three years until 1962. Woolen suits worn by men were thought to harbor bacteria, polio being one instance, and the wool would clog the filters on the pumps in the pool. Women wore suits made of cotton and didn't have the problems mens wool suits had, so they could swim in suits. The picture I saw of the bathers with and without suits were "photo shopped". The article showed several pictures that had been touched up and one was of the picture of the nude male and the suited female I had referred to earlier and they both had suits on. However, the fact that men and boys did swim naked was a real thing. There was little a boy could do but go along with nude swimming if it was part of his gym class. One person telling the story of when he was in the eighth grade. He said his male P.E. teacher was ill and missed several days of school. The female P.E. teacher filled in for him. The students were offered the option of going to study hall or attending class with here as teacher. He said that every one of the boys in class stayed for the P.E. swimming class. An interesting side note he wrote was the teacher was new and she had been assigned teaching P.E. because she was low on seniority. She was also young, having just gotten her teaching credentials. He said that she called roll and each student was required to come and stand in front of her so she could put a face to a name. All of the class was nude and he said that probably 80% of the boys had erections as they stood in front of her. She acted as if she didn't even see them. That was his story. There is a lot more interesting things I might finish telling. Anyway Jim, I had heard of it and I believe it's a true happening. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: William [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, November 28, 2025, 07:14: pm To JIM, where did you find the articles about nude swimming. About nude swimming at school, for p.e. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Jim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, November 29, 2025, 07:23: pm William... Go to any site and type in swimming nude at the y.m.c.a. and all kinds of articles come up. I went back and tried, not very hard, to find the article that was most interesting. I couldn't find it but there are many other really good ones. Lots of pictures too. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: James [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, December 01, 2025, 02:01: am I read several messages about boys swimming naked in high school, and one I found to be different. It was written by a 22 year old P.E. teacher who had to fill in for the male P.E. teacher who was ill. She too gave the boys the chance to go to study hall and maybe some did, but the interesting part of the story, came as she had the boys line up for roll call. The boys must have been in high school, because one of them was described as athletic,tall and well built, played basketball and football, was really good looking and when she stood before him it turned out he was really, really well endowed. She said he was huge compared to the other students. She lost her concentration for a little while, forgetting to speak,and just standing there for awhile before moving on to the next students. She admitted to being terribly aroused and was upset at her reaction to that student. She said she hardly noticed that the other boys were also naked, and she was sure some of them had erections but she said she wasn't sure. She was so upset with her own reaction that she went to the principle and asked to not have to teach that class. Giving a reason, she told the principal that some of the boys had erections during class and she didn't want to see that. She said that as a result females were no longer required to teach boys P.E. Some really good reading. Check it out. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: James [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 2025, 07:32: pm To William and Jim... I went back to see if I could find the particular article that had the message from the 22 year old female P.E. teacher who was nearly overcome by looking at one of her naked students. It is a really good read with lots of pictures. It is also very long. A couple of hours if you read it all. The message from the young teacher is way deep in the article, and if you get that far, it is written by Elsa. I didn't do a good job remembering the way she wrote the message but it was more realistic than what I wrote. Check it out... swimming naked at the ymca forum SCREEVE. ORG. Frank answers about swimming naked. Commentary part 1 Like I said, check it out. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Earl [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, December 13, 2025, 04:25: pm Someone had written about having their physical examination to enter the army and it was close enough to what my exam was like, that I didn't feel I had anything to add by telling my experience. However I can't find that message anywhere now so I will add my own story of what it was like. The part of the physical of interest, was the part of the test that had to do with the hernia and hemroid(I know that is spelled wrong,) but you know what I'm talking about. We were lined up, nude, about twenty of us in a line. A glass divider was about eight feet away and ran the length of the examining room. Behind the divider was three people dressed in what appeared to be white medical gowns, for a better word. There was two females and one male and they each had a clipboard. Two more people, who I assumed were doctors, also wearing the same kind of white gowns were in the room with us. One was a female and the other was male. All of these people were of a nondescript nature. Not old, not young, just people. The female started by doing the hernia test. She stood along side of us and reached down and did the pressure thing and said cough. Following about three people behind, the male doctor had us turn around and spread our cheeks and he checked us for hemroids. It was ok as that seemed like a fair way of doing the exam without to much embarrassment. What was not so ok, was the fact that a young lady in civilian clothes came in and handed one of the observers a folder with a paper on top. While the onserver read the paper and then signed it, the young lady quite openly, checked out each of us and she was openly staring at our genitals. This happened once more with a different young lady. A couple, or maybe more, reached down and waved their penises at them. Some of the guys were either erect or semi erect so the young ladies had plenty to stare at. That was just the start of a lack of privacy in the army. I doubt that when the W.A.C.s entering the army had any kind of situation where men just kind of casually walked in and had a look at them. Maybe kindd of weak but still a double standard. That's all. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: jean the frenchy ( happy) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, December 15, 2025, 05:38: am thank you very much "Earl" for the relation of your army physical examination at entrance in the army. The presence of women was not really surprising at young men exam even if it could be embarrassing to be naked in front of them. The lack of privacy at the physical examinations to enter in the army was the rule in many countries. it was like usual a group exam and you know certainly that it was very common in a recent past in some countries like Russia and many eastern countries where most of the medical staff (doctors, nurses,or even clerical staff) were women and sometimes young girls who could see each day of examination a lot of young draftees (and sometimes volonteers) stark naked and for a long time. In your relation, you said that you were naked in a line with a glass divider behind you where there was three persons wearing white medical gowns with clipboards and among them two women,I must say that I don't understand why there were not in the exam room to take notes, their presence behind a glass divider did not give you more privacy and respect of intimacy, it would have been more easy for them to be inside the room like you and watch from very close your exams, and it would have been more logical ! And the fact that they were looking at you behind a glass divider was a little ridiculous, it was like if you were animals at a zoo! I have not understoofd if the doctors instructed to you to face the glass when they inspected your genitals so that the observers could see them to take notes ? and when you were instructed to turn around and spread your cheek's butts for a check of hemorroids if you had your assholes visible from them or just your front ? As regards the woman doctor, nothing to say, it was common in some countries and was rather unavoidable since more and more women entered in the army at least at medical jobs, it was becomen rather abnormal in a certain way if you were not examined at least by by one woman doctor and one female nurse who were ( and it is still more true now ) much more numerous than men ! The entrance of two young ladies in civilian clothes in the space behind the glass dividers where the observers were looking at you to put folders with papers to them while you were exposed naked and had your genitals examined, or worse when you were bending with cheeks of the butts spread to show your anus areas for the check of hemorroids was certainly less understandable, but in your relation, it seems rather casual even if the young ladies were enjoying obviously the spectacle of young men naked ( it was less boring for young secretaries than to work all the day behind a desk in an office ! ) and it could have been worst if they had comen in the exam room to make the doctors sign papers which could have certainly happen also ! Anyway as I have already said, it was apparently common for draftees in the eastern countries to be seen naked in the corridor before entering in an exam room or even during their exams by civilan secretaries or even administrative women when thre was a report in the nude in front of a kind of draft board commission to decide officially of their fitness to military service and of their assignment ( some women could be members of the draft boaard commission ). It has now been changed but it had been for a long time the rule in many countries until recent years, especially when there was still a mandatory military service. Cleaning women could also be walking in corridors with a lot of young men naked or coming to clean the back of an exam room during the exams of naked draftees. Of course what happened for draftees could also happen in countries where there was only volonteers to entry at the army, it was the same lack of privacy anyway. Even in occidental countries like Germany,there was a lot of relations of physical examinations of draftees until the military service was suppressed in recent years, and quite all the young draftees of 18 age related their embarrassment to be examined naked "but alone " in the last exam room of the medical journey by two women, a woman doctor assisted by a woman nurse or medical secretary. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: jean the frenchie " happy" [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, December 15, 2025, 11:31: am you can find an interesting video on you tube from the national television in Mongolia (which was until two decades or a little more stil a state of the URSS) showing the examination of draftees. All the process is edited on a national TV for all public, it is commented on the film by a woman journalist which certainly explained to the audience at home was is the set up and how it is carried on and questioned also a few authorities. We can see that a lot of young men about 18 to 20 age certainly are gathered in a huge gym, they are all undressed until underwears only and supervised by some non commissioners officers and female nurses, often apparently rather young, and most of the medical staff is of female gender. They went from a station to an other, at each station there is one or two women behind a desk, at some stations it seems that there is a check of papers or a register, at others a part of the medical exam, they stayed in underwears all the time even for admistrative tasks and are exposed to the view of a lot of women all ages, even young girls, who are nurses or have admisnistrative tasks, but most of the women wear white lab clothes. the medical stations seem to be open to the view except for intimate exams which are performed behind a partition or curtails. I don't remember if we see if the doctors are wommen or men for that part of the exam. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: jean the frenchie ( happy) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, December 15, 2025, 12:22: pm "JIM " and others who put messages about double standard at swimming pools with nudity for the boys and not for girls. Of course, it seems strange for young persons of today and they do not believe in first hand that it was true, but if they try to read more about it, there is no doubt, it happened on some states ( not all ) in the United States and among the states at some school district and lasted until the middle of the 60's, sometimes longer. It happened a little also in Great Britain or Scotland and stopped also at the middle of 60's. It happened obviously (we have a lot of relations on forums, or on newspapers and also some photos which seem true - it was not a make up!) at most YMCA swimming pools, and very often for swimming lessons at schools too, at middle school as well as at high school. The nudity for all the boys was the rule for swimmming lessons, not only for swimming teams. There was even a swimming test in the nude for young freshmen students at some universities of the Ivy League, and it lasted a long time before being suppressed. You can find mention of it on internet. So you can consider that it was true that boy's students might swim in the nude, but were they alone or with girls classmates clothed in swim suits ? It is more difficult to know what was the reality, but it might have happened in some schools at least at middle schools that there was mixed lessons with boys naked and girls in swim suits, and anyway it was obvious that the girls could have very often a view on boy's students naked because of a mess on the schedule of lessons, as it is said often, the class of girls entered in the swimming pool before the boys were gone out of the swimming pool, or on the reverse the girls were still in the swimming pool when the boys came naked in line for their roll call. So it happened certainly incidentally more than one time! Besides, it was obvious also that since girls students knew that boys students were naked, they tried to have a glance on them by spying when it was possible, the curiosity is a permanent human feeling especially when the sight is normally forbidden. The girls students could try to have a look by windows if they were not closed or by the doors if they left a space to look or by going to the Pe office if it gave a view on the swimming pool. I believe that if girls were caught to have spied boys students during swimming lessons, they were certainly reprimanded by their female teachers but not strongly, not like if it had been the reverse. As regards the audience of women and girls stitting on benches,I believe that it was less frequent, above all for high school students, but may be at schools and YMCA swimming pools, with small kids or male students at middle schools, it could have been possible that mothers or older sisters or any other female sibling were allowed to come to wait the end of the lessons before going back at home with their sons and in that case there could have been also sisters of all ages sitting with the mothers or siblings to look at the swimming lessons of boys in the nude including the awkward roll call. I doubt that it could have happened later at high school. As regards interscholastic meets, I presume that it was possible that an audience of families was allowed but certainly not everywhere. Don't forget that the attitude about nudity of boys was not the same at that time, until the middle of 60's, than now, they had no right to privacy and their nudity was not a big deal, except it was offensive for women and girls. If female members of a family came to a swimming meet where boys were naked, it meaned that they did not felt offensive by the budkity of the boys because they knew that the boys would be naked .. so why not ! And at least what about a substitute female teacher for boys students if a male teacher was ill ? I believe that it could happen in most schools especially without any question at middle school, may be less easily ay high school but I doubt also that a middle aged female Pe teacher had refused if she was told to do it, they were certainly used to see boys swimming in the nude even if they were not their teachers , by the view from their office and anyway it was not a big deal to see boys in the nude when you were a marture adult woman at that time. Of course it was different for a new and young teacher having just graduated like in your relation but it was a special case ! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Earl [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2025, 12:52: am to; Jean the Frenchie. My recollections of the physical examination I received entering the army was done many years ago. My memory could be wrong due to bad memory or dreams that made it more fun to remember. I bow to your reasonable explanation that the glass divider probably wasn't there at all. I do remember quite well the young ladies coming out and starring at our genitals in a quite openly manner. As usual, the messages you shared was quite interesting and informative. Thank you for sharing. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: jean the frenchie ( happy) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2025, 04:56: am "Earl" thank you for your answer . As regards your relation and the presence of a glass divider, I am wondering if it would not have been more understandable if it had been rather a huge window without curtains where the three women observers, for instance young ladies of the administrative staff or female non commissioners oficers, were only walking in the space behind the window without any task to do, may be with folders at their hands to put them in an other room but not clipboards to take notes, and would have stopped to look at the examination of the naked recruits by curiosity and for enjoyment and of course without being told by the doctors to go away! They could be here to look also because they had been informed that there would be that day at that hour an exam of young men and they would not miss the spectacle. As regards my questions, you have not answered about the view of the examination of private parts for the observers : "I have not understood if the doctors instructed to you to face the glass when they inspected your genitals, so that the observers could see them to take notes ? and when you were instructed to turn around and spread your cheek's butt for a check of hemorroids if you had your back face to the glass divider, so that your asshole was visible from them, or if it was just your front ? One of the best part of your recollection of young men physical examination at the army is the coming of two young ladies and their interest for your naked bodies! Apparently it is one of your strong remember of that physical examination. I understand you very well on that point ! It is a perfect exemple of the double standard between the respect of the privacy of the two genders I am glad that it could be discussed on that discussion because Voyforoum had supppressed other discussions where that subject was treated. As regards swimming in the nude which is the suject which is more often discussed, the truth of some relations is no more questionable (the newspapers of that period can be easily read ) the question of mixed lessons with girls and that of an audience of families at swimming meets is less obvious, even if it is in my opinion enough documented to be considered as true at least partially. Same for substitute women Pe teachers at swimming lessons for boys, and they might also supervise the locker rooms and mandatory showers in that case which could of course never happen for a male Pe teacher and girls students. But thre was other cases of double standard such as mandatory physical examinations at school and for sport. We knew that the group exam especially at exams forsport ws often the rule for boy's students even at colleges while it might be very seldom for girl students whom privacy was much more respected. We knew also that there was often a medical staff composed of women : doctors, nurses and sometimes also medical secretaries or female members of the school staff or even volonteers mothers to help. ( it would have been considered as completely inappropriate to ask to fathers to help at the examination of girls and anyway they were not available since they worked ) And in my opinion it could also happen when there was a mess on the schedules like for swimming lessons so that a class of girls or the girls of a mixed class could have a view on the boys waiting already undressed to be examined, it could happen accidentally or incidently because there was not a real concern of the authorities about such situations.The exposure of a boy student undressed until underwears or even stark naked was not a big deal like it would be today ! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Earl [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2025, 08:07: pm Jean the Frenchie. Remembering the army physical. I believe the reason we faced the glass "window" was lack of room behind where we were lined up. It seems as though the nwall was only maybe 2 feet behind us. Also, all of the lighting came from the side with the window. We were marched in, single file, thru one door,examined, and marched out thru a door at the other end. Nothing in the room except us recruits and the 2 people doing the exam. It might have been a hallway at one time. Just the ends blocked off and doors put in. Having read the messages about the male nude swimming, I can believe that mothers coming to pick up their sons from swimming lessons could have observed the boys swimming naked. Also any children, girls included, would have been allowed to come inside out of the summer heat. I have in mind a swimming pool with an 8 foot cement walkway around it with a 8 foot high wire fence with bleachers behind it. This is the way our swimming pool was set up when I was a kid. Wehad people in the bleachers, sometimes just to watch, but there was no nude swimming done. Except when we snuck in late at night. That was when we were in high school and it was nude co-ed swimming. It was dark enough to keep a little bit of modesty, and some panties and bras were worn. But not by all. That was in the sixties and I don't remember any talk of nude swimming done at our pool. I can remember women teachers who were our P.E. teacher coming into the dressing room after P.E. class and hurrying us along because we were taking to long to get dressed. That was during my fourth, fifth and sixth grades. All of us would make a mad scramble to cover up with a towel or something. No one felt comfortable being seen naked by a female teacher. I have to wonder about the boys who weren't bothered by that situation that they could continue to walk around naked in front of a female teacher. I was much to embarrassed to walk around like that in front of my mother, much less some teacher. Enough from me. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Earl [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2025, 08:25: pm To Jean the Frenchie; In the "thread"? PHYSICAL EXAMS REQUIRED FOR SCHOOL OR SPORTS, James, on Dec. 19th wrote you a message that was quite good. He asked you several questions that I would like to hear the answer too. Nothing to personal, I don't believe. If it's not to personal, please share. I'm a slow typist, and I'm trying to save me some time. O.K.? Good reading your post as usual. Thanks, Earl [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: William [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2025, 07:32: am I read with much interest the messages about nude swimming at the "Y" and the reason being that the suits worn by men were made of wool and the fibers pugged the pool filter and also the wool harbored bacteria and germs that couldn't be washed out without destroying the suit. The women wore suits of cotton and that fabric could be washed with super hot water and didn't lose fibers. So, they were able to wear swim suits whereas men couldn't. This may be a really dumb question but, why couldn't the men wear swim suits made of cotton as the women did? The answer could be obvious, but I can't see it, Help me out someone, please. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Tim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, December 27, 2025, 08:48: pm I remember some of my physical taken before entering the army, but I don't remember it well. I remember one woman wearing an officers dress uniform who just watched everything and didn't seem to have any job in particular, All recruits moved from station to station getting different parts of the exam done. There seemed to be no shortage of young women in army uniforms moving about as we had our exams done. Most of the hands on part of the physical was done by females. Female nurses in the service are officers. So are the doctors. It's hard to tell the difference unless you can see their name tags. That will usually let you know if it is a M.D. or a nurse. A lot of the females were just clerks, as was indicated by sleeve rank. A few male doctors but most of the work was done by females. And, most of the exam was done while we were naked. That was in 1964. No room for modesty. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Tim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, January 21, 2026, 04:02: pm I have experience of a sort about being looked at by a female but no vice versa. I have a sister who is nine years older than I am, and since I was a baby she has taken care of me as much as a mother normally would. She bathed me, changed my diapers and all of that stuff. My mom worked two jobs and that's the way we lived. Even after I had reached ten years old my sis still walked in on me when I was in the shoer or just getting out. I wouldn't try to cover up. Now, two things that I think is odd. One; I wasn't as casual about nudity in front of my mother. I would cover up if she came into the bathroom while I was naked. I was embarrassed to be seen naked by her. Two; My sis was always a prude when I happened to walk in on her when she was half dressed. I would get yelled at. She told me that when I was little she got in the tub with me, but I don't remember it. Both of those things seem odd to me. My sister still walked in on me after I was in high school. Kind of a double standard, I think. Another thing, we were the only two kids in the family. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Wiley [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2026, 02:00: am to Tim I think you belong to a group of us who could be known as little brothers. My sis who is eight years older than me, never bothered giving me any kind of privacy when I was growing up. I don't think she ever changed my diaper when I was little, but I think she watched my Mom do it. Anyway she never bragged about doing it. She never bathed me, or dressed me when I was little. None of the things that make them think they have the right to treat you as if you were their personnel toy. My sister would walk in on me when I was in the shower even after she was grown and moved away. She would walk into my bedroom without knocking even when I was fourteen years old. She walked in on me one time when I was playing with an erection. I started to cover up, and changed my mind. I kept on slowly jacking off and asked her if she wanted something. She said, only to watch you. She watched for maybe a few seconds and left. She walked in on me in the shower not long after that and I started working on an erection while looking at her, and she just left. That was the last time she walked in on me. She wasn't into anything sexual I guess. Maybe, I don't know. I guess I don't know why I resented her intrusions. I guess it was rude of me to do what I did. Oh well. I'm twenty four years old and I wonder if she would still be doing it if I hadn't exposed myself like I did. Probably. So Tim, I think it happens to a lot of younger brothers. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: jean the frenchie (MARCHAND) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, February 06, 2026, 08:13: am " Tim" I find rather odd that in the Us 1964 there was so much females among the persons who were present for your physicals examinations for the army. I presume that it was during the Vietnam War and that you were an unfortunate draftee at that time, which meaned that the respect of privacy and modesty was very few for you and all other draftees, which explains your exposure in the nude to women clerks and secretaries who had no reason to be present and to watch your exam or see you standing naked in corridors or by windows without curtains. May be some were doing an admistrative job to check the indentity of the draftees and the set up was to do it while the draftees were were already naked or a few xere coming in the exam room to send letters or forms to the medical persons. I presume that there could be also a shortage of male persons to conduct the examinations and instead the hiring of girls and women under contract with the army. It was certainly the case for most of the women doctors and nurses. There was not enough males to perform all the exams in an efficient and quick way and it explains why there was so much medical women present. When you are a lot of draftees naked and a lot of women to watch at you, it began more funny than traumatising in my opinion ! not the same as if you had been alone ! Anyway it was the same in other countries such as Sovietic Union, URSS. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: jean the frenchie ( happy) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, February 06, 2026, 10:17: am to "Earl " in a recent message you said that you would like that I give answers to James message on the thread " physical exams for school and sport " you write that his massage was on december , is it right?, I have already answered to his first message so I presume that it is the second edited on the 22 december? But I don't see any questions he is just relating that he has read stories by Knut Hol on an other forum or that of Lady Bird I have checked and the forum had ben delayed I cannot do anything to restore it ! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Tim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, February 27, 2026, 10:28: pm To Jean the Frenchie; This is in regard to your reply and question about the physical I had as I entered the army in Dec of 1964. That was indeed near the beginning of the Viet Nam War. I believe the new inductees was crowding the system. If you are old enough to remember, a male nurse was a real rarity. Women doctors were being made at a high rate, compared to the 50's. So they were hired by the U.S. government who put them to use in the induction centers. Maybe that explains the high percentage of women doctors and nurses. Also I think the male doctors were sent to Viet Nam, so at least at the start of the war the the women stayed stateside, but that changed and the women saw their share of tome overseas. It was so long ago, and my memory isn't what it was, but I believe that is factual. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Peter M. (thoughtful) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, March 13, 2026, 11:36: pm To Jean The Frenchie, Having been a draftee, during the Viet Nam war, I can attest to the rude and just don't care attitude the doctors and the nurses had, that did the physical exams. I think before the war the majority of the inductees were volunteers. They were treated better and I think that started at the induction center. We weren't expected to re-enlist, so why bother to make your duty time as easy as possible. The number of stories about physicals given at the induction center was huge, and without a doubt many ere false. Even if 25% were true, wow! So, Jean The Frenchie, maybe that explains some off what was happening. By the way, I enjoy your input. Please think of a reason to write more messages. I believe I'm not the only one who feels this way. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Tim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, March 13, 2026, 11:38: pm To Jean the Frenchie; Amen! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Larry (nervous) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2026, 12:04: am I have several stories that would enter under this message subject. I wil try to write one that may be as interesting as some of what I have been reading. One story is of my cousin who is a year older than me and was twelve years of age at the time this happened. I had climbed this pole up into the loft of a barn we were playing in at my cousins house, and he was following me up when he slipped and slid down the pole to almost the ground. He didn't make it to the ground because of a nail sticking out from the pole that hooked in the crotch of his pants and then managed to tear thru his pants and hook into his scrotum. I jumped down and was trying to help him off the nail when my aunt(his mom) came running to see what all the screaming was about. My mom and my 12 yr old sister came running too. He was really screaming loud. My aunt and my mom lifted him off the nail and my aunt started to pull his pants down to see what all the screaming was about. My cousin was doing his best to keep his pants up. My aunt found a proper sized piece of board and gave him several hard swats across the rear and he let his pants fall to the ground. There was blood on his leg and that was enough for my aunt to get him to a picnic table and get his pants off. Now he was covering himself with his hands and my aunt says get me that piece of wood, I'm going to wear him out. When my sister returned with the stick, he removed his hands. My aunt gets his nut sack up so she can get a look at it and says I think he might need a couple of stitches, what do you think,she asks of my mom. Before my mom can see my cousin has covered up again. My aunt just slapped him real hard and said she was getting tired of him acting like a baby. So my mom lifts up his nuts,(the wound was on the underside,) and has a look. I think he needs to go to the doctors, mom says. My 12 year old sister didn't get an opinion. The lady across the street came Knocking on the door, and turns out she is a nurse. She has a look and says he needs a tetanous shot anyway, so you may as well take him to the clinic. She had two teenage daughters with her who had a look. I told him when no one could hear, all the nurses will get to see,too. He was home in an hour. A shot and a stitch was all he needed. He showed me the stitch but no one else. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: James [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, March 20, 2026, 01:54: am Looks like Larry's cousin got caught up in the old double standard. Can't imagine a girl getting hung up and a parade of boys and men getting to look and have an opinion. Even with the neighbor being kind of "pushing the credibility", it still shows up as what all of these messages has said. By the way Larry, how about some of the other stories you have. Things are getting pretty slow. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Kenny (O.K. with life) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 02:02: am Nothing new is forthcoming so I assume everyone has told their story and gone to find something new. So, I will tell my story believing I will not be bothered by having incorrect spelling to embarrass myself with. I was raised in a split environment ,spending the summer with my mother and my school year with my father. My mother lived in the country, to far to commute to school, and my father lived in a town. Part of my summer was ok, because I could roam as I pleased. I had permission to go anyplace I could walk to. I had a bike but the nearest town was ten miles away and it was just a small grocery store with a gas pump outside. Populated by old people. Not worth the ride. Also summers were really hot with temps over 100 degrees almost every day. I had a small creek to fish in, and it had some bass and catfish that were large enough to eat. Much of my time was spent at the creek. Also, grey squirrels were abundant and good to eat. One of the drawbacks of living like this is we had no electricity. We had a battery powered radio that was powered by a car battery, and that was it for entertainment. We had one vehicle that my stepfather took to work. It was used to charge the radio battery,also. Neighbors, we had two. The ones to the North, on a dirt road about six miles away, were and old ranching couple, who I never saw, because they went to town to do their shopping by going away from us to town. The nwighbors to the East of us was a couple I guess to be in their middle thirties, she a few years younger than him. He worked construction and was gone all week, but he must have made good money. She drove a nice car and would sometimes come by and see if Mom needed anything from town. She invited us over for lunch one day and that's when I found out she not only had electricity but also had a T.V. I was impressed. They had a generator that could be started and stopped by a switch on the wall. She got two channels, one more than at my Dad's house. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Kenny (still O.K. with life) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 01, 2026, 05:34: am So.... The story I was telling was a story from my youth. The summer between my 7th and 8th grades. A bad time to be stuck away in the boondocks. I was just starting to hit puberty and I was constantly thinking, and imagining, sex. I would have rode the 10 miles to that little town if I had a chance to maybe meet a girl my age. So I did get lucky and watch a couple of hours of t.v. while my Mom picked some veggies from the neighbors garden. The neighbor lady's name was Jan. (still is if she's still alive.) She came and talked to me some while my mom was picking. She said you should come over in the evening when the good shows are on. Just make it in the middle of the week, Jim wouldn't enjoy company and he's home Friday night thru Sunday. (Jim being her husband.) I kind of thought she was just being nice, so I didn't take it very serious. After she had taken us home, my Mom said, Jan said you would like to go over and watch some t.v. some evening, is that so? I said I thought she was just being nice. Mom said, I think she would be happy to have some company, even from a thirteen year old. That was on a Monday. Mom said why don't you ride over early tomorrow and see if the invitation is still open. If its not you will have time to ride back before it gets too dark for you to see. Next day, i waited till just after lunch and headed over. I was anxious to get there but I didn't want her to have to think she had to feed me. A bike is a quiet way to travel and when she didn't answer my gentle knock I really knocked hard. She opened her spy hole in the door and said I was out back working on my tan. Were you waiting long? No, I only knocked twice. Give me to the count of five and come on in, I'll be out back. I counted to five and when I opened the door, I got a glimpse of her bare back and butt as she went out the back door. She came back in wrapped in a towel and said I was getting some sun to try to get rid of my bikini pale spots. I don't imagine you have a pale rear end, if I was you I would never wear a suit. You have all that creek and property to roam in and never have to worry about anyone seeing you. Well, I said, I have a pretty overall tan because once I get away from the road I wear my shorts on top of my head. That must be great, she said, kind of like being a nudist. I always wanted to be a nudist but my hubby never liked the idea of anyone but him seeing me nude. I don't think it would bother me at all to walk around a group of strangers, nude, what about you? I was tongue-tied! I don't think I could do it, I said. Well, there are no nudist colonies near here so it's not something you have to even consider. Anyway turn on the electricity if you want to watch t.v. I have got 15 minutes more sun on my back and 45 minutes on my front to do. I turned on the electricity and the t.v. and found out there was soap operas on both channels. As starved as I was for t.v. I wasn't hurting that bad. I turned off the t.v. and the electricity and wandered out on the back porch. She was looking my way when I walked out and I was just thru the door when I saw she was sunning in the nude. I backed thru the door apologizing she started laughing, and said, I would sure be something if I could walk around nude in front of strangers and be embarrassed by being seen by my company. Besides it's only my butt. Come on out, I won't tell on you. I walked out and she said, have a seat, or use that camping mat and you can get some sun on your rear, it's not as brown as your back. How do you know that? I asked. I was just guessing she said. Unless you lay out, your butt won't get as much sun as your shoulders or back. Besides if you lay out we can talk and I can look at you when we talk. I don't get any conversation during the week, and I'm starved for company. If your shy, there is a towel you can cover with until you get lain down. Your not shy about your butt being seen, are you? I guess not, I said. Before you lay down, would you put some tanning lotion on my back? I can't reach there. O.K. I say, and start smoothing it over her back. Would you do my legs and rear, most of that gets wiped off before I get laid down. O.K. I say, and put lotion on th rest of her. I did put lotion on her rear end three times but she didn't complain. Now understand, I am entering puberty, but just entering. My pubic hair is still soft down, being blond headed, My pubic hair doesn't really show up until much later. My biggest problem is I'm almost constantly erect. The putting of lotion on her rear is going to give me some really good dreams, I'm thinking. Go ahead and lay out if you like, if your embarrassed just keep the towel around you until you are laid down and then pull it out. Modesty preserved. O.K. so I go into the house, drop my cutoffs and put the small towel around me. My erection is sticking out so I put it up under my hand so I'm holding the towel and erection with one hand. I get almost down when the towel decides to part. I cover myself with on hand and forget about the towel. After i get down she asks me if I planned that. No I said, I sure didn't. Too bad she said. How long do you want to lay before you turn over? How about when I start to turn pink? O.K. she says, I'll keep an eye on it for you. About that time a buzzer goes off, and she says time to roll over and get the front done. You may want to look the other way, she says, it's obvious I'm going to be laying out nude. O.K. I say and turn my head so I'm looking the other way. We talk for awhile and I asked her why she was shy about me seeing her when she said she could walk around in front of strangers and not be shy. She said I told you you might want to turn your head, I didn't tell you I wanted you to. By the way, your butt is getting pretty pink, I think you should roll over, it doesn't need any more sun. Not knowing what to do, I pulled that small towel across me and with that covering me I lay on my back. I said I need to use some of your lotion, if I'm going to lay out here and talk to you. She passed it over and I sat up to put it on, and that's when I saw she had no pubic hair. I never thought someone would shave it off. I had seen a couple of nudist magazines and those women had lots of hair down there. Some of the teenage girls had small amounts, small enough you could see their pussies. Now here I am, five feet away from one, and it has no hair on it. She gets my attention by saying, its not polite to stare. I apologize and she said she was just kidding, look as much as you like. I said it's just that all of the pictures in the nudist mags all of the women have these big bushes of pubic hair. You need to lay back and get some sun, your just going to be even more lighter if you lay there with that towel across your middle. You've already showed me what you have when you were laying down, nothing I haven't seen. She said be sure to put lotion on it, thats one place you don't need a bad sunburn [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Kenny (good) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2026, 04:44: am I'm at the neighbor lady's house, and she is laying out nude, getting a tan, and advising me to put some lotion on my penis if I'm going to lay out naked also. I'm not real brave and I think I will leave the towel on, I said. Fine with me, she said, but if you don't quit staring at me, that swelling won't ever go down. I did quit staring and we talked. Actually, she asked me questions about myself and I answered. I didn't know what to ask her, but she told me stuff that was interesting. She told me how old she was,34, and she had always wanted kids but they couldn't have any. Forty five minutes went by quickly and she said why don't you check out the t.v. and I will wash this lotion off. I will get it on anything I sit on, if I don't remove it and I'm sweaty anyway. Nothing on t.v., I tell her. Would you come and wash the lotion off my back? I can't reach it. Sure, I say. She hands me a wash cloth and a bar of soap and turns her back to me. Problem is I can't reach her the way she is standing in the stall. You have to back up so I can reach you, I said. I can't because I need to hold on to this bar to steady myself. Just step into the stall and you can reach me easily. I'll get my cutoffs wet and I didn't bring anything else to wear. Just drop your cutoffs outside the stall and you can put thaem back on when you get done in here. My back is towards you so you won't have to worry about me looking at you. C'mon she said, I won't peek, I promise. O.K. I said anf dropped my levi cutoffs and stepped into the stall. She said, start at my neck and work your way down. Wash all the way to my feet. It gets tricky trying to hold on to this bar and bend over and wash the back of my legs and my feet. She was taller than me, by several inches. If I had stood in front of her, the top of my head would have been about level with her titties. I hadn't realized until I was in the shower with her how much larger she was than me. She wasn't heavy set, just taller. I wasn't five feet tall yet, I didn't get that tall until I was in high school. I was a slow developer, the doctor called me. Anyway, she tells me to rub hard because it feels good, almost like a massage. She tells me to wash her shoulders and her arms and under her arms. I washed her back down to her rear end and she tells me to wash it really good. She spreads her legs and tells me to wsh between the cheeks of her butt, and then tells me to was her legs, between them, up high she says, and wash the front of them too. To wash the front of them I have to move around front and I am face even with her pussy. She says, wash that too, only use your hand and not the cloth. I got to feel the first pussy in my whole life then. I even ran my fingers inside, just barely. I actually did wash on down to her feet and then hurried out of the stall, and put on my cutoffs as I hurried on to the back porch. I didn't know what to do! I was worried about doing this with a woman who was twice as old as me and married. I was so excited but I had to think. break... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Kenny (real good.) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, April 03, 2026, 01:56: am So... I'm on the back porch, kind of pacing and wishing I knew what I was going to do. I was shy, and I guess I was embarrassed because of my size. I wasn't big for my age, anywhere. If I was with some girl my age and size, I think I would have been after her in a heartbeat, but I was small, height wise, and certainly not big penis sized. Anyway, she comes out wearing shorts and a halter top, and that calms me down. She offers to make dinner, and after we eat, we watch t.v. She offers to run a tub of hot water so I can have a real bath. After all the baths in the creek, a tub of warm water sounds good. Soon she calls me into the bathroom and shows me the tub has jets on it that can make the water circulate and spray against my back and everywhere. I not only hadn't ever saw a tub like this, I didn't know they even made them. After showing me the shampoo, she left. She left the door open, but I went and closed it. Boy, oh boy that water felt good. I dunked myself a few times and then lay back and relaxed. Next thing I know she sticks her head in and says, hi! Thought you might like your back washed and a shampoo. Before I could answer she said, actually, I always wanted a child so I could do things like give them a bath, or do other things people who have kids do. We can pretend your my son and it's what we do. I was old enough to think that would be o.k. and so I say sure, tho I was to old to play make believe. She comes over and starts shampooing my hair and I'm still sitting with my hands cupped over my privates. She washes my back and my chest and says stand up and I will rinse your hair and back. I manage to get up and still keep one hand over my privates. She sprays my hair and my back and chest and says now we need to wash the rest of you. O.K. I say and stand there still covering myself. She washed my rear and my legs and then says just a little bit more and I'll be done. I didn't move my hands and she says how about if I close my I eyes while I wash you there, or I could turn my head. Would that be O.K. so you know I won't be looking at it. Then she says I think your acting like a little kid, and I think I will tell your Mom about the way your acting. She will probably tell you your acting like a little kid too. I couldn't believe she would actually tell my Mom. I was already feeling like a little kid playing doctor or something. I'm just kidding she said, I'll turn my head and we can finish up here. She turned her head and moved my hands and soaped up her hands and did such a great job of washing my balls and penis I don't know why I put up a struggle. To soon she was finished, and was toweling me off. She gave me one of her husbands t-shirts and we went back to watch t.v. break [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Kenny (Happier all the time) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2026, 02:35: am We sit and watch t.v. until the news comes on at 11:00 and she says news is so depressing, I'm going to bed. She shows me their spare bedroom, and says good night, see you in the morning. I wasn't nearly ready for sleep, and was laying there wide awake, when I could hear talking. I snuck down the hall, and as I neared her room I could see the glow of a t.v. I went ahead and stuck my head around the corner of her doorway and said, I thought you were going to bed. I am in bed she said. I just roll the t.v from the living room into the bedroom, and connect the antenna, and I watch here until I fall asleep. That's not the news, I said. No she says, that thing on the shelf under the t.v. is called a v.c.r. It plays movies like a movie projector. I had never heard of this v.c.r.,and I was having trouble taking in all she is telling me. If you want to watch a movie, go get a chair, or you can crawl up in bed. I won't bite you. I went and got a chair and set it beside the bed and hopped up and it didn't take me long to see that the chair was too uncomfortable to sit in for long. She noticed my squirming around and said, for heaven sakes, get on the bed,I won't molest you. She fixed pillows so I could set up in bed. Problem arises because her husband must have been her size because when I stand up, the t-shirt covers me. Sitting in bed, it doesn't cover my privates very well. I have to keep tugging it down, because the minute I quit pulling it down, it quits covering me. She starts laughing and gets up and brings me a pair of her own panties and says wear these. C'mon she says, I think they would look cute on you, try them on, just for fun. I'm having fun, this is playing around, not serious, so I hop off the bed and turn my back to her and pull them on. I don't fit them well. My penis, which is hard, is covered as it points to my belly. Not really covered because her panties are a see thru material. The real problem is my testicles won't fit under the material. Actually pretty funny looking, so I turn around and show her. She says she has to take a picture of that and runs and gets her polaroid camera. Pull the t-shirt up so I can see the panties. I do and she takes a picture and we sit and wait for it to develop. break.... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Kenny (happier) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2026, 03:48: am The picture develops and its pretty funny, my testicles sticking out the ides of her panties. I give her her panties back and we climb back on the bed and still haven't started watching a movie. She says this is really dumb. I have seen your penis bare, with nothing covering it, and I have a picture that shows it quite clearly, and you still try to cover up. I have an idea. Why don't you let me look at it, and look it over really good and then you wont have to hide it from me because there won't be anything to hide since I've seen it up close and examined it. NO reason to hide it, o.k?. Well, how would you feel if I asked you to let me look at you privates, and study them until I'm not courious? I'm not hiding myself from you, and if it make you feel that is fair, o.k. with me. I hadn't expected her to let me examine her, and I'm getting more comfortable with the idea of her looking at me so I said I think its fair. How about some rules, she said. Like what? I said. Well, I will look and examine you for one minute and then you can look and examine me for one minute. Then we can decide what to do next, maybe two minutes each,o.k?. A few years later, I thought to myself, I think she had played that game before. I probably wasn't the first youngster she had used for her entertainment. A flip of a coin and she got to go first. She said no t-shirt and I took it off. There was a wall clock in the room and she said when the second hand is on the twelve, I will start and you will have to tell me when my minute is up. O.k., and she started by pulling my foreskin back. Not much foreskin to work with. She felt each one of my testicles real gently and blew softly on the head of my penis. Every time she touched me was like a jolt of electricity. The minute was up before I knew it. O.k., your turn, get ready and I will tell you when to start. I was already between her legs looking so I thought I got a head start. break.... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Kenny (Happy) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2026, 08:40: pm So.... There I am on my belly between her legs and she says, go ahead. Not really sure what to examine, I rubbed her pussy a couple of times and then stuck a finger inside. I believe I was surprised how much room there was inside. I pulled the lips apart and looked and she says times up. O.k., we both agreed one minute wasn't enough time. Three minutes sounds better. O.k., she gets down and when I say go ahead, the first thing she does is pull the foreskin back and takes me into her mouth. I am about to crawl out of the other side of the bed, but she's got a good hold on me and she's not letting go. Noe I don't want her to stop. Break... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Kenny (happy happy happy) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2026, 03:26: am Now this may be hard to believe, but even with all of the playing with myself, I didn't know there was an end product, so to speak. I didn't know about a climax, orgasm, or whatever you would want to call it. I just knew it felt good to play with it. She had my full attention and I quit trying to get away. She quit sucking on it and started to masturbate me and I had my first orgasm with in less than a minute. Nothing came out but it was still a full fledged climax with nothing I could compare it to. WOW! I think her three minutes had gone by but I wasn't counting. I didn't know what had happened. First time that ever happened? she asked. Yes I said. Would you like to do it again? she asked. Yes I said. O.k. we will do it again. And we did. Break.... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Kenny (happier) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, April 10, 2026, 01:15: am Now, I need to say something, and I need to say this in case somebody is actually reading this. This is basically a true story. The fact that it happened about fifty years ago, makes the telling of this sound like a work of fiction. Like I said, basically a true story. There was a woman, mid thirties, who lived a mile and a half from where I lived, and she did invite me over. She did have sex with me. It didn't happen just the way I said it happened, but pretty close. I hinted to my Mom that she was teasing me, for a better word, but my Mom kind of pooh, poohed my story and said she was a tease and was having fun with me. Besides, she was a grown woman and I was just a kid. Tease her back, Mom said, she will get a kick out of that for sure. She came in while I was taking a bath and washed my hair and rinsed it. I didn't say what else she washed, and my Mom said she was just was wishing she had a kid to do things for, because she couldn't have kids of her own. I wasn't about to tell her any thing else that had happened, I felt like I had done the right thing as far as telling on myself. I didn't realize I was being taken advantage of. She, Jan, cautioned me about telling anybody about what was going on, because her husband was a jealous man and if he ever caught her fooling around, he would beat the man she was fooling around with, half to death. I had no doubt he could hurt me really easily. She also hinted if I told anyone, and the word got around, she would make sure he knew I was the one she was fooling around with. I had a busy summer, and learned a lot of stuff I shouldn't have learned until I was grown, but I never felt guilty, and I did feel grateful. I also learned that she was not alone in her preying on boys. I found out sex was available from grown women and I liked it..... I need a break. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: kenny (happiest) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2026, 03:43: am Now.... now that I know no one is reading this I can type a little faster and not worry about my spelling or punctuation. On with my therapy. I did hint to my Mom that Jan wasn't acting like I was a child of hers. Mom told me that Jan and hubby didn't have any close relatives and I should be nice to her. Can't never tell, Mom said, you might inherit a bunch of money. Theyv'e got no kids you know. So, I went back to visit with a different frame of mind you might say. I wasn't thinking of inheritense, more like what was going on wasn't so bad, morally bad, I guess you could say. Anyway, back to her house where I lost my shyness. It wasn't long before we were walking around naked. She was bigger than me, enough so that she would do things that she must have found to be stimulating. We were in the kitchen, and she just suddenly picked me up under the arms, and sat me on the kitchen table, pushed my upper body flat, and with my legs dangling off the table, began to give me a blow job. \ She would initiate sex anywhere and because she was so much bigger than me she would have her way. Not that I was putting up a fight. I was ready when she wanted me. I guess because I wasn't very largely endowed, she seemed to prefer oral sex. After a little bit of thinking it was nasty, I really got into it when I saw the effect it had on her. I think she may have been acting a bit, but she made me like doing it. I eas pretty proud of the reaction I was getting. The rest of the summer was great. I did spend some time with my Mom, but very little time fishing. Jan and I did some fishing on a pond that was on the back of her property. Plenty of privacy, we even caught a few fish. I'm done with this except that the next summer was better because there was no time wasted getting started. Need a break.... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: kenny (happy) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, April 17, 2026, 01:10: am I think all of these threads, except for the enema things have ran their course. Too bad. I can't find any decent reading. Can someone turn me on to a thread like this one? I have read the ones, physical examinations for school and women examining men, but not vice versa, somthing like that. Anyway, any helpful hints? So long...... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Kenny (ok) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, April 17, 2026, 01:20: am The other thread was, Physical examinations for grown men. Any thing else? All of these came under "Doctors who made house calls". Help, help, help! thank you to the contributers. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Wayne Allen (happy guy) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, April 17, 2026, 07:00: pm I've been wanting to contribute something and this seems to be a "thread"? that is somewhere near what I want to add. I don't know, seems like hardly anyone, or no one at all is reading this stuff. Might be a good place to try out my hand at writing one of these. Several instances of women,or girls, observing men, and it doesn't seem to have a fair balance. I don't know if this is coming across ok but here goes. When I played football at a four year college here in California, the trainers, not a good word, were from a medical school in the same city. They were into sports injuries, and were more women than men. When the season started we were told that women trainers would have access to the locker room, and if anyone had a problem with that, come see the coach. He said they would set up a curtained area for those players that wanted to be attended to by men only. No one came forward to be attended to by males only so there was no curtained off area. They had the run of the locker room from day one and after a few days I didn't even notice them. They stood and talked to a player, even tho he wasn't dressed. We had several tables where they worked the soreness out of muscles and to see an athlete laying on a table with just a towel across his middle, and his genitals clearly exposed if you cared to look. there was no complaints about sexual bad treatment from the players or trainers. I've ran out of time, I will try to write about a specific instance later. for now, I'll sign off. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Wayne Allen (good life) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, April 20, 2026, 07:06: pm I was curious about some thing that happened at a game, and would appreciate some help under standing what happened. During a game one of our players was injured and was helped to the locker room. Both of the trainers who helped him were women. After the game we found out he was taken to the hospital with a groin injury. My question is; what is a groin injury? And, what did the two women trainers have to do to examine him? Knowing what a groin is, did they have to examine his groin(penis and testicles) and did they have to remove his protective cup to do the examination? It's one thing for a female trainer,college age, to get an accidental lookat your privates and another thing for them to examine your privates up close and touch or handle them. I didn'thave a problem with that, but a couple of my friends said no way. I was told it was the groin muscle, not the groin it self. I still want to know if he had to be stripped all the way. I kind of like the idea of having a couple of college girls fondling my private, but not enough to get hurt. Any ways, I don't think anyone is reading this, much less will answer but I can hope. Anyone help me out? Thanks a bunch if you do. It would be nicw if a nurse, or one of those trainers would help out. Thanks again [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: double standard women observing unclothed men but not vice versa Author: Jimmy Dean (ok with life) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, April 26, 2026, 12:56: am My sister worked as a trainer when she was at the college. She said the female trainers had a different roomfrom the players and the players had to come to the training room to be treated. She also said the female trainers could see thru the double doors into the players dressing room. It was easy to get a look if you tried. She also said that when a player came into the trainers room, sometimes more than one girl would watch what was going on. We are learning by watching also. She said a really interesting player would have 4 or 5 trainers watching him being treated. I asked what do you mean interesting. and she said you know and held her hands about a foot apart. Like she was mesuring a distence. That was a college team she worked on, I think [ Post a Reply to This Message ]