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Date Posted: 11:58:36 04/22/09 Wed
In reply to:
tim
's message, "Faith" on 22:21:13 11/02/08 Sun
NOW we're talking!
Don't be a silent visitor...you are more than welcome to post anything that you want here...just know that if I feel personally attacked, i may get offended...If I was more like Jesus I could take the attacks without having to defend myself...BUT, God does not need ME to defend Him.
It's the WORD of GOD that makes one free.
You have quoted a passage of scripture from the 8th chapter of John's gospel. I'd like to read the whole passage starting in verse 31 and quoting from the New King James version:
"Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, IF (big little word!) you abide in My word, you are my disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
He is implying here that it is only HIS followers, those who put HIM/JESUS/HIS WORD above everything else that will know the truth. (Those who take the word out of context to try and convince themselves or others that there is any other way to God are deceived - as long as i don't perceive that this is what you are trying to do with the scriptures, i will let you post whatever you want). JESUS said, "I AM the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE. No one comes to the Father except through Me." You can't get more direct or clear than this.
It is the simplicity of the gospel that so often trips us up as Christians.
by the way i do agree with you on one thing that you said; that this truth that He exposes by His word IS the truth about ourselves...God knows our hearts and speaks to us there...His sheep hear HIS voice...it is the truth about ourselves not the truth about others that will ultimately make us free! I missed this for most of my Christian walk because of my immaturity in the word! I thought I needed to apply the TRUTH to everyone else! God was trying to talk sense to me, but i stubbornly went about bashing everyone in my path with what God's word said! THUS sayeth the LORD...
Now i just do it on this forum and if people get offended by what i say here, they can change the channel. If I need correcting, GOD has my address.
verse 33:
"They (the Jewish believers) answered Him, 'We are Abraham's descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can you say, 'You will be made free'?"
vs 34 "Jesus answered them, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed."
This is the full context of this passage that is so often quoted by just about every religion under the sun.
Do you consider yourself a son of God? (see Romans chapter 8 and especially 8:14)
I've heard it said that Christianity is all about Revelation...but it is not just revelation, but it is PERSONAL REVELATION about ourselves, as you highlighted, WHO YOU TRULY ARE that makes us really free!
This is what I attempt to share here at this site...personal revelation from God to me! It is hard to convey personal revelation...why? because it is personal...How does He do it? By revealing the truth about me. It is then up to me what to do with it...
I heard a preacher say once, "Change is the evidence of God's power." It is not what we hear, but what we do with what we hear that leads to change.
Come, take what feeds you from my personal revelation and leave the rest. If you are open to God's Truth He will reveal Himself. If you find something to agree with here, please chime in...If you find something offensive..well, if it is in God's Word you'll have to take that up with Him...I didn't write the Bible, I only believe it and sometimes doubt it...and sometimes get offended by it...But as i heard a man say, 'faith will work in my heart with doubt in my head', I am learning to persevere in God's word. He chastens whom He loves!
Agree with what you can and search the scriptures for what you don't understand. Today, for instance, because of your post I was prompted to read all of Romans chapter 14 and it blessed me, especially the last verse!
Jesus IS the bread of Life...He IS the sustainer...Without Him I can do no-thing...His words are LIFE to those who find them and health to all of their flesh!
As I eat (feed on) the Word of God TODAY I am being transformed...I am daily being renewed...My body may be perishing, but my spirit can be stronger and stronger! God is showing me more and more truth about myself...your observation about doubt has helped me, brother Shane...I thank you for it...Could I be, as you say, trying to convince myself of the truth that makes me free?
YES! why? because the word says that this is how faith comes:
"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" - Rom 10:17
I preach myself happy every time I get into the Word! When I stay out, my faith shrinks...Jesus said, Blessed is he who hungers and thirsts after righteousness, for he will be filled.
be blessed by the Word of Truth...It truly is the Truth that makes us free!
T.O. 4/22/09
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