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Subject: Re: Inner-Roundtable #2 Author: BradPierce5 [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 08:09:52 04/23/02 Tue In reply to: MODERATOR 's message, "Inner-Roundtable #2" on 10:41:42 04/22/02 Mon Kevin, I think you just discovered Nintendo's philosophy. Always promise that old errors will be fixed on the "near horizon." That way, its always a few months away, and accountability falls by the wayside. Again, your "ad campaign" example is in the near future. And if ED's ads aren't all they were meant to be? We'll look to Mario (which would sell itself without ad campaigns). But let's do get back on topic (although the semi-rants are highly enjoyable). Once again, you miss my point while quoting SamNMax. I am NOT saying that E3 and Spaceworld are important. I am saying that I also think they need to do a little more during the rest of the year. I'm not saying it has to be like RE every time. You give the Mario screenshot example, and I do appreciate it. You prove my point yet again. Miyamoto says that in the game, "a lot of things are going on." It's a "lively" game. Yet, what do they release? A screenshot of Mario alone, climbing a palm tree. Wow! Revolutionary! If Nintendo wants us to understand why Mario's graphics aren't the second coming, provide 5 or 10 screen shots that show the "lively" world. Prove to us that they aren't smoking crack. Nintendo first and foremost says their secrecy is based upon not wanting other companies to copy them. Geez. When Nintendo unveils Zelda at E3, let's say HYPOTHETICALLY that Zelda doesn't make it out this year. There are a lot of companies that could copy ideas, paste them into a game, and publish it before Zelda sees the light of day. YET, it won't matter. Those games will be craptacular, and Zelda will be amazing. Let me clarify. Did I ever say the trade shows were unimportant? No. Did I say that Nintendo should give us every bit of information they have? Nopers. Did I say that Nintendo doesn't even benefit from secrecy at times? Again, no. All I am saying is that Nintendo needs to understand that name recognition carries you so far. Sure, the very loyal will forgive the secrecy, the delays, and the indistinguishable answers. But John Q. Casual Gamer will not. And that doesn't bode well for Nintendo in the future. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Inner-Roundtable #2 Author: Michael Skinner [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:06:14 04/23/02 Tue [i]Skinner, SamNMax - you fellas still riding the fence? That must hurt.[/i] It does at first, but after years of not getting any, you get used to it… [i]Miyamoto says that in the game, "a lot of things are going on." It's a "lively" game. Yet, what do they release? A screenshot of Mario alone, climbing a palm tree. Wow! Revolutionary! If Nintendo wants us to understand why Mario's graphics aren't the second coming, provide 5 or 10 screen shots that show the "lively" world[/i] Brad, when you see Mario at E3, and it is indeed a “lively” game, will that fact that it took you that long to find out really matter? In some ways gamers have very short memories. This down time for both news and games will soon be over, and when it is, no one will be saying “Yeah, these games all hella rock, but remember that time a while ago when we didn’t have any news? Nintendo sucks” I actually think that the lack of information about games and the lack of good advertising are part of Nintendo’s strategy. They weren’t ready for launch, so why try to force an inferior product on gamers? They tried it with the N64 and it didn’t work. When GameCube has an array of good games that appeal to a wide audience, I think they will start the hype machine; we already see signs of it happening. Even then I don’t think we will see a constant flow of information out of Nintendo. And like Kevin Cube said, I kind of prefer it that way. Getting endless information on a game actually makes me less hyped for it. I much prefer large, infrequent doses. [i] Sure, the very loyal will forgive the secrecy, the delays, and the indistinguishable answers. But John Q. Casual Gamer will not. And that doesn't bode well for Nintendo in the future.[/i] I don’t think John Q. Casual Gamer really knows about Nintendo’s secrecy and delays. All John Q. Casual Gamer knows is that the newest issue of EGM says that Mario blew them out of the water. “Whoa, Mario is gonna be good? I thought it was just for kids. I’ll have to check that out.” [ Post a Reply to This Message ]