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Subject: Careers


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Debbie Teal
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Date Posted: 14:02:49 02/09/03 Sun

Who ended up pursuing a career in music once we got out of school, and if so, what is/was it?

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Alan D. Valentine
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Date Posted: 05:58:29 02/17/03 Mon

I'll start this one off - I did, Debbie. At the start of my senior year at Marshall, I was all set to go to A & M to study Aerospace Engineering, but the music bug got the best of me. Three weeks into that year, I dropped Calculus to switch to Music Theroy, without even asking or telling (in advance) my scientist father, or math teacher mom, and came home to announce that I was not going to be an engineer, but a MUSICIAN. I wanted to be a professional symphony player at that point. After my freshman year at the University of Houston, where I played in the marching band and the orchestra, I landed a work-study job as the "orchestra manager" for the university orchestra, and a whole new world opened up to me. by my junior year, I knew exactly what I wanted to do with the rest of my life - manage symphony orchestras.

I landed a job right out of college managing a small budget community orchestra in southeastern Washington state, and moved on in two years to Greensboro, N.C. as the Executive Director of my first fully professional orchestra. Since then I have served as the Orchestra Manager of the San Antonio Symphony, Managing Director of the Chattanooga Symphony and Opera, Executive Director of the Oklahoma City Philharmonic (10 years) and now for the past five years I have been Executive Director of the Nashville Symphony.

What a ride it has been! During my tenure in Nashville, we have raised $20 million for the endowment, toured the Eastern U.S., including an appearance in New York's Carnegie Hall (which Allan Kozinn of the NY Times called a "knockout"), recorded and released 5 of the world's best selling classical CDs to rave international reviews, and we are now $65 million into a $100 million capital campaign to build a world-class concert hall scheduled to open in the fall of 2006.

During my career, I have also been priveleged to work with and have gotten to know the likes of Itzhak Perlman, Luciano Pavarotti, Placido Domingo, and an endless list of other world renowned classical artists. On the pops front, I have worked with the likes of Doc Severinson, Marvin Hamlisch, Ray Charles, the Electric Light Orchestra, Faith Hill, the Moody Blues, and, again, another endless list. I have been to Europe and back in private jets (I work for rich people, but am hardly rich myself - at least in the monetary sense!). I have had a major hand in producing some 10 national television broadcasts, several CDs, and countless radio broadcasts. (Among those broadcasts was a sad event - I organized and produced the memorial service for the victims of the Oklahoma City bombing that was broadcast around the world.) I have also been luck to have played a significant role in the major renovation of three concert halls, prior to the current project in Nashville.

I have been quoted by the "Wall Street Journal," NPR's "Marketplace", "Symphony Magazine," "Forbes," "Fortune," and a plethora of local newspapers, many of which are in cities I've never lived in. I have traveled to nearly every state in the U.S. (I think there are only five or six I've never set foot in), and to Canada, Mexico and five European countries. I feel truly blessed - I LOVE my job and my work, and I pinch myself everyday when I get out of bed just to make sure this isn't all a dream.

BUT, the most important reason for my telling you all this, is that it ALL STARTED with the RAM BAND, and a man named CHARLIE KUENTZ. He changed my life and my world forever...

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Kim Kuentz Melchert
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Date Posted: 17:03:06 02/17/03 Mon

Wheww!!

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Diego Pena
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Date Posted: 21:34:19 02/17/03 Mon

Excellent. And all of us knew you when you were a drummer in a floppy leather fidora...

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Debbie
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Date Posted: 22:57:35 02/17/03 Mon

Very, very cool. I nominate Alan to be Entertainment Chairman for the reunion. And the next party at my house.

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Robin
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Date Posted: 13:40:30 02/18/03 Tue

Excellent idea, as long as Alan can book Doc, not Luciano!

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Alan D. Valentine
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Date Posted: 04:53:25 02/20/03 Thu

Believe me, Robin - Luciano is a jerk and Doc is a really nice guy. The last concert I did with Luciano was in Nashville three years ago, and he was impossible. He brought a HUGE entourage with him, and our joke around the office was that he needed all the extra help to carry his food supply. Seriously, after the black tie dinner which followed his performance, he got in the elevator with the hotel manager, and asked him to send up TWELVE - count them - 12 - more desserts, ALL of which were for him! The only saving grace about that weekend, was that he sold out a 17,000 seat arena with a top ticket price of $300!

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Robin
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Date Posted: 13:35:08 02/20/03 Thu

I'm a huge fan of Doc and his "boss," Johnny Carson. Someday, when all TV shows are available on cable or DVD or via some uninvented format, I want the entire series of the Tonight Show (including Jack Paar and Steve Allen, my hero) up to the night that Johnny left.

Plus, it was always my fantasy to play in the Tonight Show orchestra. Sad, I know, but I never WANTED to play the flute in the first place!! (Obviously still pissed off about that.)

I presume you've thought about writing a book about your experiences, Alan. Need an editor...?

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Debbie
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Date Posted: 14:04:58 02/22/03 Sat

Alan, let Robin design your website, because I'll write the book for you. Suggestion for a working chapter title re: the fascinating LP incident you described -- "Operation Dessert Storm." And how about a competition among Band Hall website devotees to suggest the book's title? Have your people call my people and we can do lunch. Sans Luciano, of course.

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Alan D. Valentine
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Date Posted: 19:42:00 02/22/03 Sat

Actually, Debbie and Robin, My wife, Connie, and I are planning to write the script for a new daytime soap opera when we retire called "Symphony." All we have to do is change the names to protect the guilty, because the truth really is stranger than fiction. Connie, by the way, is also a symphony manager, who now manages the Nashville Chamber Orchestra, another group here in town. I've known her for 20 years, but the romantic relationship developed more recently. We were married last summer, and to do that she gave up a position as Executive Director of the Florida Philharmonic and a great high-rise apartment right on the beach in Fort Lauderdale to move to Nashville. Between the two of us, we have some pretty interesting material for the script! And believe me, the dessert story is so dull by comparison to most of the others, it probably won't even make the script.

- Alan

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Robert "Robar" Adams
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Date Posted: 21:04:41 02/18/03 Tue

I have had a career in the music industry since high school. My brother Lee and I continued playing music at private parties and live music venues for several years after high school. In 1978 I began working for River City Music here in San Antonio. We were one of the first music stores to cater to the professional musician. That store sold guitars, drums, professional keyboards, synthesizers and sound systems. I stayed in retail music for thirteen years working for other stores including Alamo Music, Music Makers and Meteor Music along the way. In 1992 I landed a job with Kaman Music. They are one of the largest wholesale distributors of music accessories and instruments in the country. At that time they had an office and warehouse here in San Antonio. I sold to music stores across the south on the phone. It was always a thrill to sometimes sell dozens of instruments to one store all at once instead of selling one instrument at a time as I had in the retail stores. The company decided to close the San Antonio warehouse in 1999. I took a trip to the corporate headquarters in Connecticut to check out the sales job they were offering but I decided I would not be able to handle cold weather. My wife and I got to stay over the weekend after I interviewed at headquarters so we took a commuter train into New York City. We saw many of the sites and even took in an off Broadway play starring Christian Slater called “Sideman” about a professional trumpet player set in the 40s and 50s. Later that year I took a job with a similar but smaller music distributor in Hollywood California. We moved there and for 2 ½ years I did phone sales and other warehouse type duties until my family and friends convinced me to move back to San Antonio. I now am working as an independent sales rep. for that company in Hollywood as well as some other distributors. Throughout my music sales career I have always played in or did live sound for many different types of bands. I even got to go to Europe with an Elvis impersonator. I currently play bass with a very talented singer/songwriter, Claude “Butch” Morgan. Butch writes secular as well as Christian based spiritual songs, consequently we play under different names for different gigs. “H!X” is what we call the secular band and we play what we refer to as Texadelic Psycho-N-Western music. It’s a mix of styles including country, pop, rock, punk, R&B, blues, swing, jazz, reggae and funk. The spiritual gigs we play as “3 Cents Off”. This band features great songs about Jesus written in a non-preachy, similar style as the “H!X”. We also do gigs as the “Happy Camper Jammers” which is usually a mix of the different styles or features other guest musicians. You can check out what Butch is all about and get a schedule of events at www.butchmorgan.com. Being involved with the Marshall Ram Band influenced my life in a major way and I hope I get to keep making and spreading the joy of making music for the rest of my life.

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Alan D. Valentine
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Date Posted: 04:43:52 02/20/03 Thu

Very cool, Mr. Adams. How in world are you? I knew you stayed in the music biz, but I lost track of you somewhere along the way. I sure hope you come to the reunion, because I would love to see you. I missed you at the 25th reunion for our class, and wondered what you'd been up to. BTW, I have this recollection of you playing in a band called the "Buckboard Boogie Boys," (at Cooter Brown's, no less!) and this vague memory that Claude Morgan was the leader of that band - am I right? It was a terrific band, but if I'm correct, very different from what he's up to now.

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Robert Adams
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Date Posted: 21:42:51 02/24/03 Mon

The band you saw at Cooter Browns had to have been "The Blast". That was the band Claude Morgan put together after the Buckboard Boogie Boys. I played bass and sang harmony parts. We had a great time in that band. We even got to open for U2 at Randy's Rodeo on their 1st tour of the U.S. The band stayed together for about 8 years. The bands we have now are fun too. Check out Claude's web site www.butchmorgan.com I hope we can get together while your here for the reunion. We may have a gig April 11th or 12th but I am trying to keep at least one of those nights open so I can attend the reunion. Email me at robar@the-i.net for more info or chat.

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Debbie
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Date Posted: 14:19:17 02/22/03 Sat

I bet the Ram Band playing some of your "Texadelic Psycho-N-Western" tunes would have really livened up those Friday night football games. Sounds like a cool mix of styles.

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Rick Valentin
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Date Posted: 19:53:23 02/22/03 Sat

Robert, I had no idea you worked for Kaman. I am the General Manager of large retail print music dealer, Pender's Music Co. in Houston. We are formerly Wadler-Kaplan Music and I use to order my accesories (metronoes, Violin Strings, Tuners, etc) for the San Antonio Warehouse. I wish they had kept the San Antonio Location because I could always get my order the next day via UPS Ground... Now it's more like a week!

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Robert Adams
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Date Posted: 21:54:20 02/24/03 Mon

Hey Rick. Yea I really miss that job. It was like getting paid to talk to your friends on the phone about music gear all day! Most of the dealers liked doing business locally here in Texas for that next day service reason. You would think they could get there act together better at their new ultra-modern warehouse near Nashville. Email me directly at robar@the-i.net. I have some new fun musical products you should be selling at your store.

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Juli Perry Briggs
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Date Posted: 16:56:46 03/25/03 Tue

I left the world of the music industry in 1988. Up until then, I pushed full force to use my bachelors in musicology and Arts Management and did some incredibly fun things, but also got abused for a year by Southern Music, which never ever paid anyone anything but minimum wage. But, there was a unique segue into the military (navy) for two years, which earned me a medical discharge when a fractured bone in my pelvis did me in. At least it caused Uncle Sam to decide that it would be appropriate to pay for some more education for me, under a "vocational rehabilitation plan" because my career was cut short with the medical issues.
I headed off to get a graduate education at a school that did have a focus in Nonprofit Arts Management, but learned that I totally detested marketing courses. At the same time, I was scared s***less by the formidable new finance professor who came to my school after having retired from Harvard and pioneering many of the original formulas for financial theory, and in order to not be embarrassed in his class, I worked like a dog to stay ahead of him and discovered my old math aptitude came in really handy. Personal computers were just coming into the world of management decision support, and the next thing I knew, I was the recipient of an MBA in finance and was hired by a Congressman who was running for U.S. Senate because I was a whiz with databases and statistical analysis. Oh, the doors that opened! But, before I knew it, I missed Texas, moved back to Austin and suddenly found myself the wife if a Field Grade officer in the First Cavalry Division. I applied for a part time teaching position in finance at a small university in Belton, my resume got pushed aside and then uncovered later when they needed someone to teach Information Systems Management (even taught one masters level course!). Holy cow, what a departure, but I found my niche.
We moved to Saudi Arabia --- ask me in person about what a marvelous experience that was, but also a trip and a half. I worked in selling multimedia IT training laboratories over there, and taught again at the university level, and tutored some princesses whose dad is a full nephew of the King and a four-star general in the Saudi ministry of defense. Then, situations arose --- again, REALLY, ask me in person, and I was forcibly repatriated to the U.S. just in time for the 1996 election season and old connections opened doors that suddenly had me in a very visible position in the Democratic political campaign. Moved to D.C. to hold a "thank you, Juli" job for several years, moved to a corporate contractor that served the White House, and suddenly my career fell apart because we had, in 1997, adopted two emotionally disturbed school aged children, and in early 2000 we suddenly lost the nanny we were relying upon at that time and there were too many specialized services that the children needed to participate in. I had to take over advocating for them and hauling them to all of their appointments.
I spent a very dissatisfying block of time doing this, but right before I pulled out of my career, I had returned to showing yorkshire terriers in AKC conformation as a passion. The next thing I knew, I was recognizing that I wanted my own business and wanted to work in dogs. I pursued the finest technical and artistic training that is available in the pet industry, opened my own mobile styling salon, and started using my conversion van on weekends to take my fuzzy little friends into the ring and put championship titles on them. It's been a wild ride, but I'm still at it, the most in-demand grooming service in Northern Alabama because of both my specialty in skin and coat problems and because of my attention to visual details and the emotional comfort of the animal. My business has been featured in the news 5 times in less than two years, and I have already been a speaker at two different grooming trade conferences. A dog I've bred is being shown by the 2001 International Groomer of the Year-- they will skyrocket to the top if we can continue to fund the little dynamo's career. We have a great sideline homebased business with Oxyfresh products, the most important TO US of which is their line of pet oral hygiene care. House is full of four-footed children and loving it!

Don't miss working in Music. Now, we focus on being community supporters of the performing arts, and even though we don't live in Washington D.C. anymore, we participate in the Legacy Circle which supports and guides Wolf Trap Farm Park, the only National Park for the performing arts. Maybe some day I can be on the Board of a major organization... have done so with smaller groups up to this point, usually small legitimate theatre companies.

Whew, sorry for the massive text, which surely vies with one of the Apostle Paul's Epistles in length. See you guys in a few weeks.

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Carolyn McKinney Woodward
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Date Posted: 20:15:00 10/23/03 Thu

Well, it seems I am a little late finding the website. However, it has been fun reading about everyone. I graduated from UTSA in music education. I taught in the public and private schools while still in SA. Now in Oklahoma, I still do a little teaching here and there...I still play, and after my father passed away, I aquired his bass and learned to play in a couple of little garage bands. Got music in my blood!! and love it!!

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