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Subject: Re: god, who can't logically exist.

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avalanche

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Date Posted: 04:55:13 09/01/00 Fri
In reply to: James 's message, "Re: god, who can't logically exist." on 21:45:35 08/31/00 Thu

>
> The ultimate paradoxal question:
>
> If there is no God, where did the universe come from?
> Big Bang? Well what made it go boom?

according to modern scientific understanding, the big bang of the past could actually be the big crunch of the future, time-reversal is scientifically speaking very much possible if and when the universe's growth starts reversing on itself, then there's the entire possibility of mother and child universes.

If there was
> indeed an original mass that blew up, where did that
> mass come from? How did it get there? And if that mass
> was there before the universe existed, then the
> universe had to exist before the big bang.

no it didn't. the mass could've come from a mother universe, but to our point of view, that mother universe never existed (as it lays outside of our dimensional structure), alternatively as i allready explained, the past could be the future, and the future could be the past.

So back to
> the question, where did it come from?
>
where did god come from? is he eternal? if god can be eternal, why can't existance just be eternal? if you say that the big bang must have had a beginning, then so did god have had a beginning, if god had a beginning, then he must've been created by something, another god?

> Over and over again. People will spen the next billion
> years trying to figure it out, when it is obvious that
> they CAN'T! So you see you are just rejecting one
> faith for another.

not at all, we TRUST in science, trust is based on observations and facts, and still has elements of doubt, whereas faith doesn't have this and therefore faith is inferior. also, it isn't quite so "obvious" that we'd never figure it out. never say never.

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Subject	Author	Date
Panties all up in a wad.... balled up... big time	Terry	07:54:02 09/01/00 Fri
situation... -- avalanche, 08:15:29 09/01/00 Fri You missed my entire point -- Terry, 18:51:38 09/01/00 Fri Re: You missed my entire point -- avalanche, 03:50:03 09/02/00 Sat Cut and Paste as you choose to make a moot point. -- Terry, 21:34:40 09/02/00 Sat Cut and Paste as you choose to make a moot point. -- avalanche, 02:36:53 09/03/00 Sun You've seen "Deep Impact" one too many times. -- James, 08:53:18 09/04/00 Mon Re: You've seen "Deep Impact" one too many times. -- avalanche, 09:38:50 09/04/00 Mon Re: You've seen "Deep Impact" one too many times. -- Terry, 10:18:31 09/04/00 Mon Re: You've seen "Deep Impact" one too many times. -- avalanche, 01:15:24 09/05/00 Tue -L-O-L-!!! -- Rev. Moore, 12:36:50 09/04/00 Mon Re: -L-O-L-!!! -- fate_777, 12:45:01 09/04/00 Mon whoops meant that to reply to James -- fate_777, 12:45:49 09/04/00 Mon
Re: god, who can't logically exist.	James	08:29:27 09/01/00 Fri
Re: god, who can't logically exist. -- avalanche, 10:38:45 09/01/00 Fri