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• The number of female pundits is limited by the vacancies available. I'm sure there are plenty more who think they are experts. As for commentators, I have no issue if they get the job on merit. But I suspect there is tokenism involved. Plus, I have to admit, I don't really enjoy hearing a girls voice commentating on the mens game. But that might only be because I'm an old fart. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, January 13, 11:26:45am (NoHost/31.94.74.66)
  • There is one woman commentator who’s voice really gets to me forget her name, there’s also a few male commentators that I can’t stand either. Also as much as I love gentleman Jim, and I do. He is a terrible commentator, half the time you have no clue what’s going on as he doesn’t actual tell you what’s happening , and him and Jamie love to go off on rants about things that have nothing to do with the game. (NT) -- Hg, Monday, January 13, 11:35:45am (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
    • I have no problem with female pundits if they are knowledgeable or insightful - no different from the men. Many old pros offer v little insight to games whereas decent football analysts like Adam Clery of 442 offer way more insight. Also no problem with female anchors - Gabby Logan/Kelly Cates as good as any. Do struggle with many/most female commentators since voices get a bit screechy when excited or under stress. You need the right voice tone to commentate without irritating (NT) -- f bloke, Monday, January 13, 01:59:20pm (host86-134-8-67.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.8.67)
      • and don't get me started on co-commentators -can’t stand any of them which is one reason why I watch almost no football shown live on TV these days. Just wish the co-commentators would understand that less is much much more. Fulham games are the worst - if we are not playing well don't need bleedin Steve McManaman or Alan Smith constantly to bang on about it. Really wish there was crowd noise only option on all platforms. (NT) -- f bloke, Monday, January 13, 02:06:13pm (host86-134-8-67.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.8.67)
      • Whatever knowledge and insight the female pundits offer doesn't come from experience. For every female pundit there is a better qualified male pundit who didn't get the job. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, January 13, 03:02:21pm (NoHost/31.94.74.67)
        • I think you don't need the playing experience to be a pundit - I think most ex pros don't have the work ethic or the intellectual rigour to match the best analysts - the BBC lot have next to no analytical insights whatsoever - they just pitch up and wing it. That said - not sure I have seen any of the female pundits really stand out on the analytics front although as an anchor I think Gabby Logan reads the game better than a good number of former pro pundits (NT) -- f bloke, Monday, January 13, 04:10:23pm (host86-134-8-67.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.8.67)