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Subject: so far


Author:
holtsledge
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Date Posted: 12:23:11 11/29/25 Sat

Ivies getting smoked

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[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
voy vey
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Date Posted: 12:32:34 11/29/25 Sat

I feared this would be the case, based on both teams experiencing a letdown after being hyped up for The Game last week.
Hope it turns around, but so far these performances won't change any minds about Ivy football.
[> [> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
Red Ivy (Stinking it up)
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Date Posted: 13:47:53 11/29/25 Sat

Ivies are not ready for prime time.. The league needs to offer athletic scholarships to kids whose parents earn more than 200k and more financial incentives to kids whose parents make less. This will attract better players. If not going to continue to be weak football.
[> [> [> Subject: And you would be wrong...


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 15:14:35 11/29/25 Sat

Ivy League will NEVER give out athletic scholarships. BTW, Yale wins 43-42
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
observer
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Date Posted: 18:29:36 11/29/25 Sat

Never is a long time.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
Red Ivy
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Date Posted: 06:29:50 11/30/25 Sun

Let me put it this way, Ivy League teams will never win an FCS championship until they start giving out athletic scholarships and financial incentives irregardless of parents income. Also will probably need to give some NIL money too. Ivies need to get into the 21st century if they want to win football titles.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 07:59:21 11/30/25 Sun

Now it's switched from not competing, to winning the FCS championship? Ivy League schools aren't going to offer with athletic scholarships and financial incentives.
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
observer
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Date Posted: 18:39:20 11/30/25 Sun

Then the Ivy League will be Division 3 like the NESCAC. Great for those who love that cute stuff.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 19:00:08 11/30/25 Sun

We've heard this song before, and no the Ivy League won't be Div 3 either.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
observer
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Date Posted: 22:40:36 11/30/25 Sun

It's perilously close now. So many educated people don't believe in Darwin's theory. Evolve or die.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: evolution and the football analogy.


Author:
valmas (stoic)
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Date Posted: 23:05:44 11/30/25 Sun

i'll say the youngstown state environment certainly offered yale little choice but to evolve or die during the second half of play yesterday! and i'm so glad that our advocate, boola boola, now has one more game to look forward to - at montana state on december 6th. trust he'll enjoy it.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I will enjoy it


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 08:34:43 12/01/25 Mon

win or lose. And we aren't "perilously close to Div 3" either. :)
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I will enjoy it. . . . A Word About Elite Universities and Sample Size


Author:
An Observer
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Date Posted: 12:44:00 12/01/25 Mon

The 2025 Yale team showed us more in the last third of Saturday's game than a variety of better Ivy League champions over the last two decades.

As Boola said, next Saturday's game will be a treat, win or lose.

As far as the "evolve or die" dictum is concerned, I agree with this general premise. That is without a doubt how the world in general works. Darwin was correct. On the other hand, as I posted in another thread recently, always consider the longest and broadest perspective that makes sense.

"Ivy League" has connoted academic excellence and a ticket to a better life since the term was invented during the Depression. HYP have been valuable brand names since the early nineteenth century.

I'm not saying that it's a good thing, but these are durable brand names. Over the last two centuries, the only notable change in the pecking order is the ascendance of Stanford. How many other industries have such slow-moving supertanker dynamics?

No doubt the Ivies currently face a perilous challenges but, if we're going to go down now, it'll be because the federal government has declared war on us, not because our football co-champions fall way behind Villanova and Youngstown State in the first half of two playoff games.

Sample size. Don't forget it.

Two first halves do not a meaningful sample size constitute.

I've seen with my own two eyes Ivy League football champions in the last two decades that could have *won* the national FCS tournament with a fortuitous bounce or two of the pigskin. We'll be fine.

I predict that most of posters on this board will be around to enjoy an Ivy League co-champion make it to the Final Four of the FCS playoffs. Don't you worry about that, folks.

Personally, I hope to live long enough for one of the Ivy football programs to add at least one to the long list of national champions we claim. In contrast to parts of the existing list, this next one will be legitimate.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
observer
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Date Posted: 21:30:14 12/01/25 Mon

The FCS title isn't a "National Championship"

It's a consolation prize. Ain't nobody can remember which team won last year's FCS title, except fans of the East Dakota State Jackhammers or whatever.

There are only 12 teams that are competing for the National College Football Championship this year.

HYP's brand advantage is eroding more quickly than people on this board care to imagine. The wannabe 5 are already falling behind other private schools. If you don't think Coach K and Jim Harbaugh helped boost the academic standing of Duke and Michigan by enticing Prep School A+ students to look beyond the Ivy League, you're kidding yourself.

This board is Ostrichville.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 22:23:33 12/01/25 Mon

And still not going to Div 3 like it or not :)
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Harbaugh? Seriously?


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 05:59:22 12/02/25 Tue


First, he was at Stanford for five minutes.

Second, he did NOT entice Prep School A+ students to Stanford. His predecessors (including Teevens) tried to, but were not successful in putting a competitive team on the field.

Stanford fired the admissions director when Harbaugh was hired. The new admisssions director let Harbaugh have recruits that never would have gotten in for his predecessors.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
dplmont
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Date Posted: 03:07:06 12/01/25 Mon

What an archaic concept......go to college with a priority emphasis on getting a top education and playing football as an extracurricular activity.
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
observer
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Date Posted: 21:32:54 12/01/25 Mon

As long as football is considered an extracurricular activity, you're playing by D3 rules.

And nobody who has been around the campuses in the past 20 years can testify that the kids are getting the type of well-rounded liberal arts education that they used to get in the 80s, let alone the 50s, when the Ivies officially banded together.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
Questioning
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Date Posted: 14:13:37 12/02/25 Tue

What exactly are you angry about here?
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
observer
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Date Posted: 18:38:09 12/04/25 Thu

Hubris. Shortsightedness. Snobbery. Lost opportunities.

Lots of things.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: And you would be wrong...


Author:
Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 19:24:09 12/04/25 Thu

“Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are.”

St. Augustine
[> Subject: Ivies looking bad


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 12:39:28 11/29/25 Sat


Still plenty of time in both games. But geez...

Our critics are getting plenty to work with.
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
John Harvard
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Date Posted: 13:04:11 11/29/25 Sat

No defense.
Harvard has dropped a pass in the end zone (became an interception), an interception in the red zone (became a TD), two long passes, and missed a tackle on a screen (became a FG). WTF.
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
SpuytenDuyvil76
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Date Posted: 13:24:59 11/29/25 Sat

Neither side of ball for H can't hang on to zee ball.
[> [> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
SpuytenDuyvil76
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Date Posted: 13:27:41 11/29/25 Sat

*can
[> [> [> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
sparman
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Date Posted: 13:30:02 11/29/25 Sat

"Can't" seems more appropriate label for these teams today.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
voy vey
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Date Posted: 13:38:03 11/29/25 Sat

Can't-tabs and Bull-duds.
This is brutal.
Hopefully not an annual occurrence.
I suspect it'll be a while before we are again a two-bid league, unfortunately.
[> Subject: There goes more than the auto bid for the Ivy League


Author:
Ed S.
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Date Posted: 13:33:21 11/29/25 Sat

I suspect the NCAA will look elsewhere beyond the team winning the Ivy Championship.
[> [> Subject: Re: There goes more than the auto bid for the Ivy League


Author:
PenguinIced
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Date Posted: 13:48:34 11/29/25 Sat

Locked into conference games, but add competitive n9n conference. YSU played well against Michigan St, but lost
[> [> [> Subject: Re: There goes more than the auto bid for the Ivy League


Author:
Ed S.
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Date Posted: 14:03:33 11/29/25 Sat

Harvard had a cupcake non-conference schedule. Stetson? Who in their right mind would think that school has a good football program, they are a Div 3 team at best.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Agree on Stetson


Author:
Crimson Carl
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Date Posted: 14:53:48 11/29/25 Sat

No reason to schedule cupcakes like that.
[> Subject: At halftime, it's Ivies-7 Other Teams-66


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 13:39:15 11/29/25 Sat


Obviously, we got some work to do if we're going to try to compete in the playoffs.
[> [> Subject: Re: At halftime, it's Ivies-7 Other Teams-66


Author:
Memphis Bill
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Date Posted: 15:45:38 11/29/25 Sat

Is there anyone on this board who,NOW, is not proud of gritty Yale team?
[> Subject: The Princeton Pretender


Author:
CrimsonSkies
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Date Posted: 13:40:55 11/29/25 Sat

Aurich is a squid. Can't beat Yale. And now this travesty.
[> [> Subject: Re: The Princeton Pretender


Author:
Ivy Patriot
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Date Posted: 13:44:54 11/29/25 Sat

Humbling.

Villanova 336 yards at halftime. Harvard 31.
Youngstown 358 yards at halftime. Yale 132
[> [> [> Subject: Re: The Princeton Pretender


Author:
Jake (Confused)
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Date Posted: 13:52:45 11/29/25 Sat

Harvard and Yale in the playoffs is an embarrassment. Either one wouldn't be a lower tier Big Sky or MV conference team. You should focus on education and leave football to football players.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The Princeton Pretender


Author:
GP
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Date Posted: 14:34:55 11/29/25 Sat

The Tim Murphy squads would have acquitted themselves much differently than this. Harvard sends its most physically soft team in decades to the playoffs and gets summarily embarrassed.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The Princeton Pretender


Author:
CrimsonSkies
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Date Posted: 20:04:19 11/29/25 Sat

Aurich is a mercenary who doesnt belong at the helm of Harvard football. If it wasn't for his fellow Princeton croney Erin McDermott he never would have gotten the job. He is an embarrassment to all the great Harvard men of yore. And this humiliating episode couldn't have happened to two more deserving people, Erin and Andy.
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The Princeton Pretender


Author:
Tad
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Date Posted: 21:51:18 11/30/25 Sun

Sheesh! A guy goes 9-1 and you want his head?
[> [> [> [> Subject: Hey Jake....Yale is winning


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 15:09:46 11/29/25 Sat

You were saying.
[> Subject: Yale scores, now down 42-22 in 3rd quarter


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 14:24:20 11/29/25 Sat

They've settled down in the 2nd half and hopefully can make a game of it.
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
Jud
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Date Posted: 14:28:28 11/29/25 Sat

where in Nico Brown for Yale?
[> [> Subject: 42-29 Yale scores in 4th...closing the gap


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 14:37:00 11/29/25 Sat

Keep it up!
[> [> [> Subject: Re: 42-29 Yale scores in 4th...closing the gap


Author:
GP
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Date Posted: 14:47:43 11/29/25 Sat

‘Dirty and play’… be a bigger candy ass
[> [> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
YaleDad84
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Date Posted: 14:45:38 11/29/25 Sat

Yale’s two best players Ezekiel Larry and Nico Brown are both sidelined. Larry suffered a concussion on a dirty play at the end of The Game.
[> [> [> Subject: Ummm not exactly...


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 14:51:39 11/29/25 Sat

Yale's two best players? Josh Pitsenberger says hello.
[> Subject: Villanova scores 52-7 with 3 minutes left in game


Author:
Ed S.
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Date Posted: 14:47:19 11/29/25 Sat

Blowout complete.
[> [> Subject: Final: Villanova 52 Harvard 7


Author:
Ed S.
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Date Posted: 14:58:10 11/29/25 Sat

,
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
Steve Mathiason
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Date Posted: 15:01:25 11/29/25 Sat

42-36 YSU now
[> Subject: Yale scores down only 6 with 5 minuets left in 4th quarter


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 15:03:16 11/29/25 Sat

Nice 2nd half by Yale. 42-36 Youngstown.
[> Subject: Yale 43- Youngstown 42


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 15:06:10 11/29/25 Sat

WOW
[> [> Subject: Re: Yale 43- Youngstown 42


Author:
Jay
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Date Posted: 15:10:57 11/29/25 Sat

What heart Yale is showing!!!! Josh is a Rockstar!
[> [> [> Subject: Damn!!!!!!!!


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 15:14:22 11/29/25 Sat


Even if Yale can't finish it off, I'm so happy that Yale showed fight!!!
[> Subject: If you had Yale going into victory formation with 2 minutes to go


Author:
sparman
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Date Posted: 15:20:27 11/29/25 Sat

You're not being truthful.

Great work by Yale.
[> Subject: Only one Ivy got smoked. Yale wins 43-42


Author:
Boola Boola
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Date Posted: 15:21:53 11/29/25 Sat

What a game.
[> [> Subject: Re: Only one Ivy got smoked. Yale wins 43-42


Author:
GP
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Date Posted: 15:32:43 11/29/25 Sat

The fight Yale showed after the horrendous start and being without some of its best players is beyond commendable. Today is a perfect example of why Harvard can’t beat Yale.
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
Jud
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Date Posted: 15:25:38 11/29/25 Sat

this is crazy, happy to hear the 600 Yale fans that attended made some noise!
[> [> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
Jud
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Date Posted: 15:26:54 11/29/25 Sat

hopefully we get Nico back for the next game
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
voy vey
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Date Posted: 15:29:31 11/29/25 Sat

Unbelievable. A comeback for the history books!

When was the last Ivy game played in December?

Unfortunately, Yale's WR corps and OL are decimated. Next man up...
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
Old Blue
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Date Posted: 15:54:26 11/29/25 Sat

Gentlemen; remarkable victory by a gutty squad.
[> Subject: Harvard got embarssed


Author:
holtsledge
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Date Posted: 16:04:10 11/29/25 Sat

And Craig played more like Jaden smith, certainly didn't impress any scouts
[> [> Subject: Harvard should have..


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 16:07:40 11/29/25 Sat


Harvard should have imagined Villanova wearing green and white uniforms with a "D" on the middle of their helmets. They would have played like Ohio State if they had done that.

Instead they played like total crap...
[> [> [> Subject: Congrats to YALE


Author:
Lion Rooter
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Date Posted: 16:56:22 11/29/25 Sat

You beat Ed O'Neils alma mater where he played football ! Well done - let the Whiffenpoofs sing out the victory!

Seriously a good win and puts the lie to Ivy inferiority in football !
[> [> [> Subject: you know better. these things happen.


Author:
valmas (stoic)
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Date Posted: 17:14:42 11/29/25 Sat

harvard just peaked too soon. so they lost two road games at season's end - congratulate them on the championship season it was.
[> [> Subject: Re: Harvard got embarssed


Author:
John Harvard (No Run Defense)
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Date Posted: 17:22:04 11/29/25 Sat

Entering the season I was concerned about Harvards D-Line and Linebackers, most of who had graduated. We heard the defensive backfield was strong, but otherwise I was concerned. Harvard jumped out to early leads against Stetson, Brown, Holy Cross, Cornell and Columbia, but were tight against Merrimack, Princeton and Dartmouth for a while. Eventually, Penn, Yale and now Villanova showed that it was possible to run against the Crimson. Without early breaks, those teams held onto the ball with runs and short passess and kept Harvard's offense off the field. Also, Harvard never really established a pass rush. Impressive run to 9-0, but Harvard never had to (9-0) or was able to overcome its weakness (0-3).

Not sure the message sends about a 2 bid Ivy for the future. For a while there - I was thinking we would never see a second bid or a see ever again!
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
M3
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Date Posted: 17:15:30 11/29/25 Sat

A great way to start the playoffs

Well done Yale
[> [> Subject: Yale Represents.! 43 to42


Author:
Ivy wanna be
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Date Posted: 17:24:23 11/29/25 Sat

Congratulations Big Blue.!!
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
Fear the Quaker
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Date Posted: 17:23:11 11/29/25 Sat

Great win by Yale, overcame adversity.

As for Harvard, sometimes it is not your day.

Best of luck to Yale.
[> [> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
Tiger69
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Date Posted: 12:32:48 11/30/25 Sun

Tough to say it, but go Elis! You did yourselves proud. Great comeback.

As for Cantabs, they will live to see another day. The cheap shots are grounded in envy. Aurich is welcome back to Princeton any day.
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
Phil Leotardo
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Date Posted: 21:36:57 11/29/25 Sat

It was apparent to me all year that Harvard was not the monster people were making them out to be. Anyone who actually watched their games would realize that. Their games against Cornell, Columbia and Princeton were much more physically competitive than the final scores would suggest, and then they nearly lost to a lame Penn team. It was not shocking when they got smacked by Yale.
[> [> Subject: Re: so far


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Old Blue
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Date Posted: 15:04:55 11/30/25 Sun

Gentlemen; Mr. Pitsenberger is indeed a special player one of the best I've seen for our blue.He has carried the team on his back the whole year and anyone who watches the next contest will fully realize what a superlative player he is.
[> Subject: Re: so far


Author:
Boston Lion (Well done, Yale!)
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Date Posted: 15:32:05 11/30/25 Sun


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