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Date Posted: 20:24:12 11/09/04 Tue
Author: Shane
Subject: German politics and culture part 2

Chris,
I have found it helps to have a sense of humor regarding politics. If you take things too seriously this will happen to you: (BTW, Bacon Raton is a really wealthy area)

http://www.bocanews.com/index.php?src=news&prid=10127&category=Local%20News%20%20&PHPSESSID=dbedc967e0ac261e440983dcdc5d7660

Remember God is firmly in control and no leader comes to power without his permission. (Romans 13:1-3)

I read the article that you linked. I find this comment interesting from the author:
"I think Democrats made a fundamental mistake when the Christian right rose as a political force: They watched it happen, ceded God to the GOP without resistance, without so much as a beg your pardon."

Chris, the Democrats did not 'cede' God and religion to the GOP. The Democrats have sprinted away from God and religion, they have opposed, rejected and mocked God and religion. The Democrats do not have a neutral stance on Christianity and the Bible like German socialists or politicians, they are in OPPOSITION to Christianity and the bible. (This has not always been the history of the Democratic party!)

How can I support a party that decries the 'minimum wage' but fails to speak out against the murder of the unborn? (42 million deaths and counting). How can I support a party that wails about 'world peace' but refuses to confront evil? How can I support a party who preaches 'tolerance' but calls me 'dumb, stupid, and an idiot who believes in the Bible'? How can I support a party that not only says homosexuality is just a healthy 'alternative lifestyle' but attempts to promote this lifestyle in the public school system.

The Democrats want to divorce morality from politics. They want everything to be a 'policy' deciscion. But everything is NOT a policy deciscion. And if you start divorcing morality from politics you get a Hitler, Stalin, a Mao and a Hussien. And you get a president like Clinton who says he lied under oath and cheated on his wife 'because he could'. O Democrats how far you have wandered from the path!

I am not familiar with German politics I only know American politics and as a Christian I would never vote for a Democrat.

Here are some interesting items from 2 leftists thinkers:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2109377/

George Bush may subjectively be a Christian, but he—and the U.S. armed forces—have objectively done more for secularism than the whole of the American agnostic community combined and doubled. The demolition of the Taliban, the huge damage inflicted on the al-Qaida network, and the confrontation with theocratic saboteurs in Iraq represent huge advances for the non-fundamentalist forces in many countries. The "antiwar" faction even recognizes this achievement, if only indirectly, by complaining about the way in which it has infuriated the Islamic religious extremists around the world. But does it accept the apparent corollary—that we should have been pursuing a policy to which the fanatics had no objection?

This is from Tom Wolfe:http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1340525,00.html

As he notes, the America which votes tomorrow is a country riven over morality like never before. On the flip side of the culture of ubiquitous sex is that of puritan Christianity, as harnessed in no small part by Bush. "Yes, there is this puritanism," says Wolfe, "and I suppose we are talking here about what you might call the religious right. But I don't think these people are left or right, they are just religious, and if you are religious, you observe certain strictures on sexual activity - you are against the mainstream, morally speaking. And I do have sympathy with them, yes, though I am not religious. I am simply in awe of it all; the openness of sex. In the 60s they talked about a sexual revolution, but it has become a sexual carnival."

"I think support for Bush is about not wanting to be led by East-coast pretensions. It is about not wanting to be led by people who are forever trying to force their twisted sense of morality onto us, which is a non-morality. That is constantly done, and there is real resentment. Support for Bush is about resentment in the so-called 'red states' - a confusing term to Guardian readers, I agree - which here means, literally, middle America. I come from one of those states myself, Virginia. It's the same resentment, indeed, as that against your own newspaper when it sent emails targeting individuals in an American county." Wolfe laughs as he chastises. "No one cares to have outsiders or foreigners butting into their affairs. I'm sure that even many of those Iraqis who were cheering the fall of Saddam now object to our being there. As I said, I do not think the excursion is going well."

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