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Subject: Aberavon Court Case

Author:
Gareth

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Date Posted: 06:08:21 05/12/02 Sun
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Does anyone know the situation regarding Aberavon's open court case against the WRU ?

Although they are now champions and could win the play off to get promoted, I can't really see them dropping the case because one of the biggest factors of their case was the lost revenue this year caused by non-premiership rugby and no Europeon Shield place.

I would have thought that this needed to be resolved prior to the play off with Caerphilly, because as Bob Jude reported, if they on the case they would in effect have all their Division 1 points for this season deducted and therefore Pooler would replace them as Division 1 Champions and therefore should have the play off spot, which would make the Aberavon v Caerphilly play off null and void !

All very legal and confusing I know, but can anyone shed any light ??

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[> Subject: Re: Aberavon Court Case

Author:
Dave Parfitt
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Date Posted: 06:12:22 05/12/02 Sun
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>Does anyone know the situation regarding Aberavon's
>open court case against the WRU ?
>
>Although they are now champions and could win the play
>off to get promoted, I can't really see them dropping
>the case because one of the biggest factors of their
>case was the lost revenue this year caused by
>non-premiership rugby and no Europeon Shield place.
>
>I would have thought that this needed to be resolved
>prior to the play off with Caerphilly, because as Bob
>Jude reported, if they on the case they would in
>effect have all their Division 1 points for this
>season deducted and therefore Pooler would replace
>them as Division 1 Champions and therefore should have
>the play off spot, which would make the Aberavon v
>Caerphilly play off null and void !
>
>All very legal and confusing I know, but can anyone
>shed any light ??

I have no idea what is happening. The WRU have made a right mess of things over this issue. Perhaps the Aberavon officials can shed some light on this for us?

[> [> Subject: The case is due to be heard on July 25th. It should have been done and dusted months ago, but the WRU requested and were granted time to prepare their defence (like the writ took them by surprise or something!).

Author:
PaulW
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Date Posted: 00:36:11 05/13/02 Mon
Author Host/IP: NoHost/194.168.218.249

>>Does anyone know the situation regarding Aberavon's
>>open court case against the WRU ?
>>
>>Although they are now champions and could win the play
>>off to get promoted, I can't really see them dropping
>>the case because one of the biggest factors of their
>>case was the lost revenue this year caused by
>>non-premiership rugby and no Europeon Shield place.
>>
>>I would have thought that this needed to be resolved
>>prior to the play off with Caerphilly, because as Bob
>>Jude reported, if they on the case they would in
>>effect have all their Division 1 points for this
>>season deducted and therefore Pooler would replace
>>them as Division 1 Champions and therefore should have
>>the play off spot, which would make the Aberavon v
>>Caerphilly play off null and void !
>>
>>All very legal and confusing I know, but can anyone
>>shed any light ??
>
>I have no idea what is happening. The WRU have made a
>right mess of things over this issue. Perhaps the
>Aberavon officials can shed some light on this for us?

[> Subject: Re: Aberavon Court Case

Author:
Gareth
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Date Posted: 04:12:36 05/13/02 Mon
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Thanks for your replys. So if Aberavon win thir case on July 25th........ what happens ?? My understanding was that if they win the case their Div.1 points would be deducted and compensation made for not being in the Premier League. This surely makes a mockery of the play off with Caerphilly?? Maybe our solicitor can help on this one ?

[> [> Subject: The writ, if I understand correctly, will have no bearing on this season's outcome - it's merely a claim for compensation against the perceived loss of revenue because we weren't promoted last year. If, however, the WRU had any sense, they'd promote us now and give you the playoff, to make the premiership an even number. I reckon we'd be prepared to drop the court case then. It'd be cheaper for the WRU than forking out if we win it (of which out legal people are apparently confident).

Author:
PaulW
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Date Posted: 04:40:53 05/13/02 Mon
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>Thanks for your replys. So if Aberavon win thir case
>on July 25th........ what happens ?? My understanding
>was that if they win the case their Div.1 points would
>be deducted and compensation made for not being in the
>Premier League. This surely makes a mockery of the
>play off with Caerphilly?? Maybe our solicitor can
>help on this one ?

[> [> [> Subject: Doh - sorry, that should read "our legal people".

Author:
PaulW
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Date Posted: 04:42:16 05/13/02 Mon
Author Host/IP: NoHost/194.168.218.249

>>Thanks for your replys. So if Aberavon win thir case
>>on July 25th........ what happens ?? My understanding
>>was that if they win the case their Div.1 points would
>>be deducted and compensation made for not being in the
>>Premier League. This surely makes a mockery of the
>>play off with Caerphilly?? Maybe our solicitor can
>>help on this one ?

[> Subject: Alot of you may already know this but for those that dont - there's a story on the front page of the sports section of todays The Western Mail entitled "Pooler legal threat could block play-off" about how Pooler should join the Wizards in being automatically promoted to the top flight. A copy of this story can be seen online in the rugby section of www.icwales.co.uk.
Author: Wizards Statto [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:49:34 05/13/02 Mon Author Host/IP: cap140.capgemini.co.uk/212.2.6.140