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Date Posted: 03:27:32 08/19/07 Sun
Author: Joan
Author Host/IP: ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net / 68.0.253.131
Subject: I think I got it just right.
In reply to:
Phil
's message, "Re: Joan you're making more outta this...." on 21:50:30 08/18/07 Sat
Comparing a single Muslim person to a gang of thugs is just what I thought you were doing.
Yes, we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
FWIW, all Americans are real Americans--the non-white Muslim who is a brand new citizen is just as much an American as you are, with equal rights. I know that irks you to no end, but that's an issue that you will have to deal with in your own way. If snubbing someone releives your anger over non-white muslims being allowed equal citizenship and rights, well continue to stick your nose in the air. Just watch out when it rains. :-)
Joan
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Re: To brand me a racist is simply not on.... -- Phil, 06:38:57 08/19/07 Sun [1] (71-38-101-56.phnx.qwest.net/71.38.101.56)
Islam is an Int'l religion, and is an idea, not a race. To brand me a racist because I dont like the fact that religion has been high-jacked by a bunch of blood-thristy thugs, is way out of line. Unfortunately, its typical of folks who dont want to deal with the threat it poses us, nor have they physically done so...as I have. They prefer to bury their heads in the sand and ignore the threat and simply blast the msgr. Its becoming obvious that it would be better for me to shut my mouth, and sit back and wait to shout: "I told you so!" when the worst happens. It reminds me of 1930s Europe, which turned a blind eye to Nazi Germany.
Secondly, I'm much more sophisticated than that; and my rec'd of svc is much more distinguished in the area of Civil Rts than the vast maj'ty of white people. I have actually stood side-by-side with folks who have had legit grievances based on race.
My second gripe is with illegal immigration. That also crosses lines of race, creed and the realm of ideas. In addition to folks of color, there are also 'criminals', here illegally from places such as Eastern Europe and Ireland. In places out West, there are Aussies, New Zealanders, Asians and Pacific Islanders who're here illegally. If we dealt with illegal immigration as a serious legal problem, we wouldnt have such a problem that will cloud our future. Again, folks are looking the other way, with flimsy excuses like it may hurt the economy a lil. Oh pu-leaze!
Finally, it's some of you Northeasterners who are reknown for the snobby behavior, not the places where I've lived. You're the ones with your noses in the air, and now, with a towel over your head...ignoring these 2 serious issues. If you wish to look the other way and ignore these problems, there's not much I can do abt it. Besides, it seems to be an epidemic these days. But please dont cloud the issue further by labelling me a racist. First of all, that is not true, given my rec'd, nor is it fair or wise. Secondly, it does not help much to resovle this very serious debate.
Sincerely,
Phil from AZ...haven for illegal immigrants.
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Well, Phil, I have to say that no one loves you the way you do. ;-) -- Joan, 13:07:07 08/19/07 Sun [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
Your self-esteem is never low, and you never fail to inform others of your superiority in many, many fields. :-)
"nd now, with a towel over your head...ignoring these 2 serious issues. "
Ah, yes a poorly veiled reference to "towel heads".
And now it's Northeasterns your lumping as a group--to prove that you're not a racist but a sectionalist. All Northeasterns are alike of course, and we are all what non-Northeasterners think we are. If there's a stereotype, it must be true. ;-)
Really, Phil. lol
If you choose to call all Muslims dangerous because of the radicals who claim to be of the same religion, and you choose to call that enlightened, go right ahead. Free speech and all, right?
Did you ever get around to finding the papers you wrote on the last question? You were going to provide some examples.
Joan
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Re: I said SOME of you NE'rs... -- Phil from AZ, 13:47:48 08/19/07 Sun [1] (71-38-101-56.phnx.qwest.net/71.38.101.56)
...which is very mild compared to what other folks I know say abt NE'rs...and Muslim sympathizers, for that matter. As for my 'papers', yes I do have the arguments, but I doubt that you will receive them very well. Rt now, I choose not to fuel the debate further, given the current temp.
Take care, God Bless,
Phil from AZ
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Sure, Phil. :-) -- Joan, 15:42:03 08/19/07 Sun [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
FWIW, no one gets upset with what you say. We know you by now. You're the resident stirrer-upper. We know that. We just wait to see what you will say next. :-)
Joan
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Re: Yes, I'll admit to provoking thought.... -- Phil, 16:11:55 08/19/07 Sun [1] (71-38-101-56.phnx.qwest.net/71.38.101.56)
...something that seems to be a lost art nowadays. I'm glad you await my posts eagerly. As you accurately point out, there are a nbr of folks who're informed and entertained by what I post (even if they dont post much themselves), altho sometimes they admit that they dont always agree w/ me. Contrary to conventional wisdom (or lack thereof), I get several emails per week from these folks, encouraging me to express my points of view.
So I shall continue, whether here or thru some other venue. Take care, God Bless,
Phil from AZ
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That's it exactly, Phil. :-) -- Joan, 04:36:06 08/20/07 Mon [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
What would a forum be without your POV? :-)
Joan
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