The relationship with Paige and Joann's isn't helping MVA. Paige makes the contestants think if they don't buy an expensive gown from her they won't win. It's bullying behavior. No one should have to spend $10,000 on a Sherri Hill gown or be told they won't win if they don't get it. I also don't like the fact there are contestants working at the store seeing the custom design orders of their competition. It isn't right at all. -- Miss Volunteer America Pageant

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Subject: The relationship with Paige and Joann's isn't helping MVA. Paige makes the contestants think if they don't buy an expensive gown from her they won't win. It's bullying behavior. No one should have to spend $10,000 on a Sherri Hill gown or be told they won't win if they don't get it. I also don't like the fact there are contestants working at the store seeing the custom design orders of their competition. It isn't right at all.

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Date Posted: Sun January 29, 2023 10:22:25
In reply to: 's message, "Does anyone think that the changes to Miss America will impact MVA?" on Thu January 26, 2023 22:36:03

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[> [> Subject: I'm sorry, I don't believe any owner literally tells a girl she has to buy a $10,000 dress or she won't win. They may say a 'state level gown' can run $10k. Saying they work with/ sponsor all the major pageant systems is basic marketing, not an attempted extortion where if you don't buy a gown from them, you won't win. If a girl can't manage the pressure of gown salesperson, she's not mature enough for the title.

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Knowing another girl's dress isn't any real advantage; more likely a psych out knowing she can outspend her
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Date Posted: Sun January 29, 2023 15:28:21

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[> [> [> Subject: Neither Teen not Miss winners last year got their gowns at Joann's
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[> [> [> [> Subject: Not sure about where the teen got her gown but Alexa Knutzen’s mom made her gown and it was gorgeous! (Wish my mom could sew like that!)
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[> [> Subject: The relationship between Christine Williamson and MVA is much more of an issue than Joanns in my opinion. Her bad mouthing the MAO 5 years after she competed while trying to build up MVA is such a red flag
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[> [> [> Subject: I don't think Christine's comments have been an issue at all. She is making whoever competing aware that the leadership in certain states and at the MAO national level is toxic. This seems to be the trend with the original 4 states that had licenses revoked installing toxic abusive leaders in TN, GA, WV and PA along with CO & OH. Mental health is important.
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[> [> [> [> Subject: If the new leadership of MAO doesn’t replace the entire Ohio board then Ohio will soon be back to where Volunteer is now with no locals and candidates only buying in. Volunteer is just starting out so it’s understandable but the overwhelming corruption of the Miss Ohio America program has caused probably half the locals, many sponsors and many eligible former contestants to leave because of the toxicity of the board, the volunteers and some of the veteran contestants.

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Date Posted: Mon January 30, 2023 13:47:55

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[> [> [> Subject: Are you delirious? Christine was ABUSED by MAO and is speaking her truth

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Reuben harness is that you??
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Date Posted: Tue August 01, 2023 00:44:21

Christine endured so much during her year and to say she is “bad mouthing” MAO shows how incredibly little you know. Reuben, if this is you, go elsewhere; you aren’t wanted here; we’ve all seen your comments on her social media harassing her where she politely blocked you after a grown man left incredible rude comments on a young woman’s social accounts, which could be considered predatory given the age gap and how much older you ar.
MAO targeted that girl…. She’s speaking her truth, if you have a problem with the truth, YOU are the problem! She’s done NOTHING to warrant such disgusting comments. Have you ever spoken to her? Do you know her story?

I highly doubt that you do, from my understanding, she wants MVA to be everything MAO was and so much more. Applause to her!

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[> [> [> Subject: Hey! Reuben here. First, thank you for spelling my name correctly. 2nd if you think my comments were harassing please look up the definition. My comments to her were that her constant bashing of MAO were tacky when she was trying to build up another system. Please if you would like to discuss further, I think you have my number. THANKS!
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