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Subject: Who has this years top 10 predictions? I think Caroline T. Is an obvious people’s choice. Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 17:42:25 05/30/23 Tue [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Just say you’re cashing in your 401K for her to win that. Author: You’re clearly not from OH, peoples choice is never a good thing. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:25:51 05/31/23 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: I agree, I would not want to be people’s choice. Unfortunately, everyone knows who bought their way to top 10. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:42:29 06/01/23 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Caroline for the Win for sure. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:34:51 06/03/23 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: I'm sorry, with her wardrobe, tone of voice, and stage presence, I don't see Caroline even placing. Author: Can we please have some discussion beyond "insert name here" for the win?? [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:20:56 06/03/23 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Caroline is extremely active in the community and with her CSI. She clearly has passion, I won’t count her out. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:04:40 06/03/23 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Community service isn't judged as part of the competition. I think with the return to fitness, girls working their platforms isn't a significant consideration anymore. Sounds nice to the public, but won't win a girl the crown. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:12:00 06/07/23 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Good thing you’re not a judge! Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:19:29 06/09/23 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It doesn't matter who's judging- the fact is Community Service is no longer a critical factor for winning as with 2.0 & prior. It's not part of the onstage competition anymore and there are no points awarded for it. For girls who bring that to the table, great. The judges will note it & it may be reflected in comps if they make it to Top 10 or the difference maker for Final Ballot, but if she's counting on strong CS to give her the win, she (and you) are not dealing in the current reality of the MAO. Author: Look at who's won in other states so far-- Robin wants glamour, not SJWs. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:36:14 06/09/23 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: So if community service doesn’t matter at all what will they discuss in interview….How to do a French braid? Just because it’s not a part of the onstage competition doesn’t mean it’s less important. Service is one of the points of the crown for a reason. Also glamour and community involvement are not exclusive. But you know, keep perpetuating that idea of pageants. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:18:56 06/09/23 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I did not say "community service doesn’t matter at all", rather "Community Service is no longer a critical factor for winning". I also didn't argue that "glamour and community involvement are (mutually) exclusive", rather "with the return to fitness, girls working their platforms isn't a significant consideration anymore." Stop twisting my words. Arguing against what I DIDN'T say creates the false impression that these are my positions (they're not) and that you have proven my arguments false (you didn't). Finally, "Just because it’s not a part of the onstage competition doesn’t mean (CS is) less important." Uh, that's EXACTLY what it means. They took a scored part of competition and eliminated it. There was a CSI/ted talk competition for points, now there is not. Author: You can insist that CS is super important, but don't be upset when reality hits on Sat [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:37:16 06/10/23 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: You clearly don’t know enough about MAO scoring Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:17:36 06/18/23 Sun You are completely mistaken- there is an opening statement that must be about CSI required at the beginning of interview. Also- the on stage question during prelims is required to be about CSI so it is part of the on stage competition. It’s definitely still an important part of the score. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: OK, so why don't you explain it to me. How many points can a contestant get for Community Service? Didn't Robin eliminate the scored Community Service Ted-talks? Did I miss a competition last night?? Are we still MA 2.0? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:46:54 06/18/23 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Read my whole message next time. I already explained this- there is a 30 second CSI pitch required at the beginning of every private interview, every preliminary osq is required to be about the contestants CSI AND after the first week of State competitions Robin told the state ED’s that she missed pitch. She required them to add a descriptive CSI sentence to the osq intro’s and it’s looking likely that she will bring it back next year Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:32:48 06/19/23 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Learn where to post before you start sniping at people here. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:47:45 06/20/23 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: How do you know what Robin told the state EDs? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:01:00 06/20/23 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Caroline gives Lora vibes. She’s never been to MO before. Her wardrobe on her sm varies between teen and just unflattering. She’s overly confident and having met her mom at GC I don’t think SO will want to deal with her. She might get into T10 on People’s Choice but not any further. She will continue to state/pageant hop until she wins or ages out. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:04:07 06/08/23 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Caroline Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:18:57 06/09/23 Fri Caroline is beautiful, intelligent and clearly a contender. She is a strong speaker, with lots of charisma and brings something fresh to the table. Who cares if she hasn’t competed at MO, she competed at volunteer and placed high. She is clearly capable. She has every right to be confident. As every young woman in this organization should be: Not only is she active in her CSI but she has great networking skills and has made some amazing appearances. On top of all that she is a sweetheart and never has anything negative to say about anyone. if you have a problem with her or want to down play her capabilities, you’re clearly the problem. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: It's arrogant and assuming to say people who do not agree with your assessment of Caroline's capabilities makes them "clearly the problem". Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:09:58 06/09/23 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Have several seats Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:37:45 06/09/23 Fri Frankly, don’t care if you agree with the assessment. But the fact that you’re a grown adult sitting on your phone, discussing someone you barely know in such a negative way…that’s rather embarrassing. You would not want others talking about you or your child that way. Go breathe some fresh air and touch some grass. Use all that free time you have to talk about her and do some soul searching. Because you seem to have a lot of pent up angry feelings towards Caroline. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: OMG- a mama bear has found the Voy board and is on here attempting to defend, deny, & deflect *any* commentary other than her Darling Daughter is "beautiful, intelligent and clearly a contender, a strong speaker, with lots of charisma, brings something fresh to the table, and is clearly capable," and if we have the audacity to 'downplay' her Darling's capabilities, we are clearly the problem, lol. Author: Hyping your girl, then dismissing anyone that doesn't agree with you, is the height of arrogance. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:53:11 06/10/23 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: WOMP WOMP sorry to tell you I’m not her mom and I don’t need to be to see through yalls bs. You can disagree and have your own opinions. But you’re just being disrespectful. Also it’s a knee slapper that you’re calling me arrogant for speaking positively about someone while all your messages are laced in ego. I wasn’t even a fan before but now y’all got me screamin #TeamCaroline. Regardless of how she even does, I will now be rooting for her. Stay pressed. Stay frumpy. Stay bitter.You Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:13:11 06/10/23 Sat It’s a beautiful day outside. Go breathe some fresh air and release all that tension. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: CLICK-IN for Caroline: "Caroline is beautiful, intelligent and clearly a contender. She is a strong speaker, with lots of charisma and brings something fresh to the table. Who cares if she hasn’t competed at MO, she competed at volunteer and placed high. She is clearly capable. She has every right to be confident. As every young woman in this organization should be: Not only is she active in her CSI but she has great networking skills and has made some amazing appearances. On top of all that she is a sweetheart and never has anything negative to say about anyone. if you have a problem with her or want to down play her capabilities, you’re clearly the problem." Author: Post only in the subject line, newbie. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:17:50 06/11/23 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Funny, we can see through your bs too! No one called you arrogant for 'speaking positively'- you have a hard time resisting the straw man argument, but that you said "if you want to down play her capabilities, you’re clearly the problem". Yet here you say, "You can disagree and have your own opinions." You're nuts. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:26:57 06/11/23 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: And you must really think we're stupid. A newbie here, who posts in the message box, who gushes praise for Caroline, who claims they weren't a fan before but now that we've pushed back against that gushing hype, they're super rooting for her, lol. And the cherry on the top, since you started it, is your girl is the very definition of frumpy. Her interview dress was a cheap, lightweight, summer romper and her gown only came to her ankles, so we saw those hideous clunky platform shoes. Sit down! Author: people think ur her mom bc only a mom would hype that hard [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:51:04 06/11/23 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Click in for “Have several seats” - “ Frankly, don’t care if you agree with the assessment. But the fact that you’re a grown adult sitting on your phone, discussing someone you barely know in such a negative way…that’s rather embarrassing. You would not want others talking about you or your child that way. Go breathe some fresh air and touch some grass. Use all that free time you have to talk about her and do some soul searching. Because you seem to have a lot of pent up angry feelings towards Caroline.” Author: Ma’am put everything in the subject line unless it’s the start of a new thread [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:44:21 06/10/23 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: I must disagree that Caroline's a strong speaker. She may say the right things, but it's her tone of voice. For me, it's exceptionally distracting and a game killer. Sorry. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:11:29 06/09/23 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: And another thing. Calling her a state hopper is crazy. She worked in WA for a year and wanted to give pageants a try then moved back to OH where she’s FROM. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:25:48 06/09/23 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Back to the original question. Imo Top 8 in no particular order and then nothing for 10 because PC is just $: Baylee Caitlyn Emily Jaeleen Madison Via Autumn Megan #9 Marina, Haylee or Stephanie (toss up but my guess is Stephanie unless she blows talent because we have fitness) T5 in no order: Baylee* Jaeleen* Madison Via* Emily or Caitlin (depends on how well they do finals night) *T3 but no idea who wins because Steven’s choice Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:55:22 06/10/23 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Not sure on Top 10 - don't know all the new ones too well, but I think the Top three will be: Baylee, Via and Madison. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:41:01 06/11/23 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: And Jaelynn. Accidentally forgot her earlier. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:10:50 06/11/23 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]