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Bryan Reed
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Date Posted: 00:27:01 08/10/03 Sun
In reply to:
Rev. William Moore
's message, "Re: God" on 23:38:46 08/07/03 Thu
>You cannot disprove I'm not god in disquise, but does
>that mean your going to drop to your knees and worship
>me? I doubt it.
But nobody has ever claimed that you are so nobody cares to prove or disprove it and certainly nobody nobody has faith that you are.
>But if I were to make such a claim I would have to
>prove it in order for it to be accepted as truth.
A large scale show of power would be in order.
>It
>wouldn't require you to disprove anything for my claim
>to be rendered false.
Because nobody has faith in you as a god.
>Thus the burden of proof would
>lie with me. The same goes for anyone else making
>claims of divine beings.
That's just it, God has never claimed to be a devine being... or at least not for several thousand years. If there is anything to the stories then he proved quite decisively then.
>Also, we cannot disprove unicorn, goblins, fairies,
>etc. but given that there is no substanical proof or
>evidence of their existance, there is no valid reason
>to believe in such things.
It's of no concern really. It's never been claimed that the fate of your immortal soul has anything to do with whether or not you believe in these things or not.
>The same goes for god.
Really it is a little different because here something, perhaps greater than everything, is at stake if you are mistaken. For the most part, I think for some people believing in God is like buying insurance. You never really know if it is going to pay off or not so you might as well just pay your policy just to be safe, only choosing to believe in God doesn't cost you anything. I suppose it can if you are all into the giving your tenth to the collection plate and forking over large sums of cash to tele-evangelists. According to some this is absolutely necessary. I don't think so.
>Beliefs and judgements should be based on logic,
>science, and probability, and available evidence and
>data.
What a bunch of sheer luck that we have evolved from the single celled primordial ooze to become what we are. Perhaps I should worship infinite possibility and corresponding eventual probability if that is all that it took. Perhaps I already do. Dare I pray to infinite possibility that a certain desired probability become my present day reality?
I'm not sure whether it is scientific fact or scientific theory but I remember something about how energy is everything and how, no matter what, it always exists in some form or another. Therefor, if this is scientific fact and not scientific theory, the energy that began it all, whether the oriinal true first life spark came from spermatazoa or embryo, it will continue to exist in some form long after your passing. It will continue to exist forever. If it is scientific theory then never mind.
>And if such things lean towards god not existing
>more than it does god existing, would it not me more
>reasonable and rational to be an atheist?
Being an athiest has made you decidedly unreasonable. At least in this regard.
It's all a personal choice, what do you feel, what do you not. Of course those that have them are tought them to start but a lot of times these mutate through time. Based on the same principle a lot of times but many times not.
I'm beginning to think that the land is a large factor in this. The land knows what it wants the people who live there to be. More and more people here in America seem to be turning to ancient indian beliefs whether they call it that or not. It's only an idea but it is based on a fact.
FACT: I have met more people who claim to deal with animal spirits and who claim to speak with the dead, more frequently lately than I ever have in the past. In the past this didn't used to happen at all.
That fact only pertains to me I know but it is a fact none the less that I have observed this.
>yes,
>anything is possible. And yes, there could possibly be
>a god. But it's equally likely that elves and dwarves
>are living in the core of the earth.
I thought it was a scientific fact that the core of the earth was molten hot magma, still though, I don't know what but something just might live there, something that exists on different properties than anything we have come to know, I suppose that if they are there and you discover them then you could name them Dwarves and Elves if you like.
>I go with what I know. Personally, I see no feasable
>reason to believe in invisible cloud monsters. For
>others, it's a sort of psychological security blanket.
It's the original escape into fantasy perhaps. When prolems of this world are so great that you don't have anywhere to go, then why not indulge a little fantasy, maybe there is some hope there, maybe something to keep you from giving up and blowing your brains out all over the garage wall, which by the way would be one very decisive way to prove, at least to yourself, whether there actually is a God or not.
If there truly is a God then I seriously doubt that he really cares what the rules are as stated by man. I'd be willing to bet that there are certain people that he would just as soon not have around him though.
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