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Subject: Re: God's benefit package Author: Bob [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 18:56:16 09/21/10 Tue In reply to: Tim 's message, "God's benefit package" on 10:41:56 09/20/10 Mon Freedom is free. Tim you try very hard to eliminate freedom in your life. You constrain everything with requirements from the past for the future. You are the looser in the end. Shane is correct that you need to live in the moment, deal with whats in front of you not what you believe the past demands for the future. Eternity is happening right now. It doesn't mean you get to stay forever. You get to stay right now and that is the only thing you can expect. You didn't answer my questions either. I am not the devil and neither is anyone else. The Devil is just the reverse of your God. One justifies the other. Take away one the other disappears. I know you will not hear any of this. You have the bible stuffed in your ears. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: God's benefit package Author: tim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:22:32 09/22/10 Wed lets recap: We have three positions represented here. The servant of God position put forth by yours truly, the servant of Self position put forth by Bob; this could also be called the servant of wife position and finally, the servant to No one position put forth by Shane. Some of this discussion has spilled over from the 'slaves must obey' thread started earlier, where I quoted Bob Dylan from His 'Saved' album (or was it Slow Train Coming? sorry, I'll GIL - google it later). Zimmy says, "you gotta serve somebody...it may be the devil, or it may be the Lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody.." This is perhaps a simplistic way of saying it, but the gospel message of Jesus Christ really isn't supposed to be complicated... I'll remind everyone visiting that we are not having a debate here on the Tim O'Rourke Forum. I'm a Christian who is simply putting forth a dialogue on the worldwide web, and as the spirit moves me, I share. It is representative of a Christian Worldview. Anything that contradicts this would be like somebody going to the steps of the Capitol Building in Washington DC and arguing against Democracy, or to put it in a more biblical perspective, it would be like Moses going to the house of Pharoah and with a wooden rod in his hand demanding that the Pharoah let his people go! Like the Pharoah, I'm the big dog on the Tim O'Rourke website (with the possible exception of Joe, who still has the upper hand as webMASTER - I do believe that Joe regardless of his views on spiritual things is a good webmaster) But back to the analogy, I would be representing the Pharoah here and everyone who puts up a contrary position would be representing a Moses! Now God's Word IS the ultimate authority, not mine, but it has been made clear by the two with opposing viewpoints to mine that God's Word is not THE AUTHORITY over ALL. The visitors who oppose me, as I indicated earlier, are my slaves to do with as I please. I am grateful for their service to me on this site. I would like to publically thank them both for coming and sharing here from their hearts (the Bible says that out of the mouth the heart speaketh!). I can't imagine a better way to proclaim God's Word on the subject, any subject, than from the mouth of those who do not espouse it! You have blessed me with your presence and all those who bless me will be blessed! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]