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Subject: No good option


Author:
Tammy
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Date Posted: 11/ 7/07 10:33am

I am so confused and am not ready to talk about this with my husband until I know what I want to do...

I have been married for five years and have two beautiful boys aged 3 and 1. Until last month my life was picture perfect. Then I received an email from my husband's "girlfriend" of six months. My world has been shattered. He says he chooses me and desperately wants to make our marriage work. We are in counseling and are trying to put things back together. My husband is an only child and it has come out in counseling that the primary event leading up to his affair (not the cause, just the catalyst) was the birth of our second son. My husband admitted that with each child he felt a little less important to me. He is working on his issues. Prior to finding out about the affair, I was not on birth control, but trying to avoid pregnancy. I did want another child, just not yet. After I found out, I immediately made an appt. to get on the pill. I had an appt. scheduled for Oct.31. Oct. 26th was our fifth anniversary. I though that, timing wise, I was in the clear. I was wrong. I found out yesterday that I am pregnant. I am devastated. Our marriage is so fragile right now. I haven't even decided for sure if I can forgive him. I feel like if our marriage has any hope of surviving, the only possibility is to have an abortion.

I used to think that having an abortion was taking the easy way out and not taking responsibility. I now feel that in my situation an abortion would be the only responsible thing to do, for my marriage and for my two little boys who deserve the best chance I can give them in keeping our family together. Even if my husband says he wants this baby, I cannot trust that a year from now he won't be regreting it, or worse, looking for attention somewhere else as a result.

On the other hand, I have had problems with multiple miscarriages and view my babies and nothing short of little miracles. I can't imagine how I will live with myself knowing that I have chosen to destroy a miracle. I am so fearful of longterm regret, or even transfering the blame onto my husband for creating this horrible situation in the first place.

I feel like there is no good solution. I find myself praying for a miscarriage (something I never dreamed I would do), just to make the whole dilemma go away. It is possible I will miscarry. I have had some bleeding and, with my history, the doctors are monitoring my blood. I have not told them that, unlike in the past, this time I am praying the numbers are NOT good. I should know something by Friday. I have decided not to tell my husband until I find out if I am likely to miscarry or not. I know that if I decide to have an abortion I will have to tell him. We cannot work fully on our marriage while I am keeping such a big secret. Plus, I know I will need his support to help me through it. I will not handle it well. However, I feel like I need to know what I want before I approach him with the problem. He has too many of his own issues to give helpful insight into this.

I feel like I know what I have to do. I just don't know if I can bring myself to do it. I feel like I am either letting down my little unborn miracle or my two amazing little boys I already have.

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[> Subject: Re: No good option


Author:
Pat
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Date Posted: 11/ 7/07 11:31am

Hi, Tammy,

I am so glad you came!

To begin with, let's look at who is being responsible and who isn't. I don't know what your "sex life" is like. I do know these days that a lot of men are VERY demanding. They want all the attention, and they don't want to share it with anyone else, not even their children. True fatherhood means wanting to protect, defend, provide for, etc., their children. Your husband is pretty irresponsible and immature.

You would have every right to show him the door. But would that be wise?

Since you are praying, why not pray that God will cause him to have a change of heart toward you, and really develop a sense of responsibility, and that he would cherish all four of you? One thing that is good is that he is involved in counseling. Right there, that is a huge step forward. Why pray that harm will come to your baby because he isn't being the real man, husband, and father he should be?

Now ask yourself if you would harm either of your other two because of what your husband has done, and because he is irresponsible. Seriously. Your baby is real, and he or she is depending on you for your protection, and it sounds like you are the only one who would really protect him or her.

As for abortion, how would that solve anything? You would have committed violence against yourself and your baby. It could disable or kill you so you couldn't care for your other two. It would take a terrible emotional and spiritual toll on you. Most marriages don't last after abortion. It could easily destroy what's left of your marriage. Not only that, but you could cause grave emotional and spiritual harm to your two boys and your husband, not to mention depriving other family members of a person they would undoubtedly dearly love. (If one of our children had an abortion and destroyed one of my grandchildren, I would be devastated, and I even told them growing up that I would take some pretty drastic steps if any of them ever did that.) On the other hand, God may have sent you this child to heal your family. I have seen this. My sister has four children. Prior to the birth of the fourth, things were pretty bad, but the fourth healed most of this. You don't know God's purpose in sending this little one to you. Trust in Him. He knows what He is doing, and this baby is no accident. Also pray that God would keep you both, and give you the strength to deal with the current situation. He will. He has promised to do so. Among other things, this is a huge test of whether or not you will honor God and His decision to give you a child. So tell God, I don't even want to WANT this baby, so You will have to help me.

May God bless you with the strength and courage, and bless your husband with the desire to cherish all of you. He promised that he would, and now he needs to live up to his promise. It's ridiculous for him to go have an affair because he doesn't have your exclusive attention anymore. But you also need to pray that you will have the strength to forgive him. We are all sinners, and we make mistakes, sometimes egregious ones. If you can, make it a point to have a "date" once a week. Concentrate solely on enjoying each other's company.

Please keep in touch. We will be here for you all the way, no matter what.

Hugs,
Pat
[> Subject: Re: No good option


Author:
Shellie
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Date Posted: 11/ 7/07 12:31pm

Hi Tammy,

First of all, my heart goes out to for the fact that you've had to endure the pain of being cheated on. I'm really sorry you've had to experience this!

However, thinking that abortion is going to solve anything and even save your marriage is a huge miscall. Now, I can certainly understand your desire to not be cheated on again. And I can see that since the birth of your last child caused your husband to feel unloved, which he says led to an affair, makes you want to avoid this happening again. BUT there are so many flaws in this thinking! Like you said, "I am so fearful of longterm regret, or even transfering the blame onto my husband for creating this horrible situation in the first place." Tammy, I can guarantee this is exactly what would happen.

Most relationships do not survive an abortion--ESPECIALLY, when you do it against your wishes...to hold on to someone. Your desire to not get cheated on is so intense you're considering sacrificing your own child. What are the chances you wouldn't feel guilty about that and not be angry with your husband for making choose to not let your own child be born for fear he'll stray?

And what if you abort and your husband cheats again? He may never cheat again. Many men who've cheated do regret it and never do it again--but do you really want to take such measures when you can't know for sure? Whether your husband strays again or not does not change the fact that this is your child--and ending its life may prove very hurtful to you! It doesn't matter if you're pro-choice. This isn't a political stance--it's your child. From everything in your post it's obvious that you don't want to abort. It's more likely that you'll suffer because abortion isn't what you want; it's what you feel you HAVE to do to save your family. I believe the resentment you'd feel towards your husband would be what ends your marriage and makes forgiving him for his past affair impossible.

It sounds like you want to save your marriage, so do it the right way with the best chance for success:

* Let your child be born!
* Stay in counseling with your husband
* Use good "marriage maintenance", i.e. plenty of dates, love letters, and words of endearment.
* Go to church together (if you don't already)
* Make him a huge part of your pregnancy! Show him how much you need him!
* Let your husband know that how he interacts with, and supports the family makes your love for him even stronger.

Please do post here as often as you like. I hope you find our thoughts helpful.

Take care,

Shellie
[> Subject: Re: No good option


Author:
Sharon
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Date Posted: 11/ 9/07 11:53am

Tammy,

I am SO sorry you're having to go through this rignt how.

I want to echo what Shellie said, though, and that is that the odds are NOT good that IF you have an abortion, your husband will stay (or be more inclined to). The odds, in fact, are that it will be MORE likely that the marriage will dissolve (for a number of reasons - a feeling of regret on both your parts, a feeling of resentment on your part against your husband for putting you in the situation of sacrificing your own child for the marriage, and just the sheer added stress of an abortion on TOP of the existing marriage difficulties.)

Second, I want to encourage you to seek out a Retrouvaille ( http://www.retrouvaille.org/ ) program in your area. They are usually done through the Catholic diocese, but they are not limited to Catholics.

I've got to run, but I'll try to post more later.

I'll be praying for you.

Sharon
[> Subject: Re: No good option


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Sharon
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Date Posted: 11/12/07 2:15pm

Tammy,

How are you doing? I've been thinking about you.

Sharon
[> [> Subject: Re: No good option


Author:
Tammy
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Date Posted: 11/14/07 11:16am

Thank you for checking on me. I am still very confused. I had a sonogram yesterday and the pregnancy looks normal. I told my husband, and at first he was very excited and couldn't understand why I was so upset. It initially made me feel better, but then I remembered how immature and inconsistent he can be. I mean, just two months ago he was telling someone else that he loved her and was going to leave me and marry her, and now I am supposed to believe that practically overnight he has fallen head over heels back in love with me and is excited we are having a baby? And even if he really feels that way, how do I know he won't feel completely different two months from now?

We went to the counselor last night and I said all of this. He admitted that he wasn't really all that excited about the baby, but was trying to make me feel better. He did say that he is very against abortion, which I did not know before. It never came up between us, because we were always trying to have babies before, not get rid of them. I am Catholic and our boys are baptised Catholic, but my husband is not. He was however very supportive, in fact insistent, that our boys be raised Catholic. Still, I had no idea he had such a strong position on the issue. I guess in light of this and the fact that it is very much in line with my views, I am now starting to move away from the idea of abortion. But I am still so scared of ending up doing this all alone and of losing our "family." I realize now that if this baby is going to be what breaks us up then we didn't have a strong enough marriage anyway and it would have just been a matter of time.

I also feel tremendously guilty for feeling so overwhelmed and disappointed over this pregnancy. I was beyond excited with my last ones. I don't want this one to be the one that shouldn't have happened. It deserves so much more than that, but I just am not in a place that I can be excited about it right now. My husband's girlfriend told me that he told her he was "devastated" when he heard I was pregnant with our last child. He swears that is a lie, only meant to hurt me, but I still find myself looking at my beautiful one year old and hearing that in my head. With this one, I will KNOW that is how he felt...and to be fair, how I felt, too. That is so unfair to this baby!

There is another issue, too. It is not as important, and I can handle it, but it makes me very uncomfortable. Because of the public way I found out about my husband's affair, many of my family and co-workers know about it. Many of them are already judging me for not leaving him. I can only imagine how I will be judged once everyone learns of this. I know that should not be a concern of mine and most of it I can just shrug off. I don't care if people want to be petty. But there are people like my mother, father, sister, etc. whose oppinions I do value, and I am afraid they will be disappointed in me for getting into this situation in the first place. I can't blame them. I am disappointed in myself.

Sorry for the long message. Just ranting, I guess.

Tammy
[> [> [> Subject: Re: No good option


Author:
Heather
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Date Posted: 11/14/07 3:11pm

Hi Tammy,

I found it very easy to understand your sentiments; you think very clearly. I think you also had a great deal of wisdom in this:

"I realize now that if this baby is going to be what breaks us up then we didn't have a strong enough marriage anyway and it would have just been a matter of time."

I can only imagine how many women wish they'd had access to that revelation before they did.

I wouldn't worry at all what your co-workers/family think. You know each one of them has issues, too. We all do. I'm just sorry yours got made public.

Whether or not you stay with your baby's father is rightfully viewed as a question all of it's own, separate from whether or not your baby lives or not. You seem to have already reached that place of wisdom, too.

May God show you His will clearly, and may this bring you peace.

Take good care of yourself - lots of rest. It makes a big difference and is too easily neglected.

Love,

Heather
[> [> [> Subject: Re: No good option


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Pat
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Date Posted: 11/14/07 5:11pm

Hi, Tammy,

Thanks for the very detailed message. It was helpful.

There are several things I can share with you that I hope will help. First of all, I married a man who I thought was a Christian, and so did he. We didn't find out until after we were married that he wasn't. I think this happens when someone wants to marry you and this clouds his assessment of where he stands spiritually. So the fact that you are Catholic and your husband isn't certainly resonates with my situation. As in your case, he wanted me to make sure the children received a background in my faith. That was really hard, and I don't feel I was all that successful. But God did undertake, and this has helped, though there is still much that can be accomplished. Fortunately, my husband did eventually come around and embrace the Christian faith to a large extent. I see him grow in grace as the weeks pass.

We don't know why God blesses marriages where people are unequally yoked. We just know that He does. You have been blessed. This little one is a blessing and a gift from God. When you think about how beautifully our children are made, it makes it easy to realize how God blesses us with them.

I doubt seriously if your husband even knows where he really stands. He will have to think about it. It is good you are in counseling, because this will help. God often uses His gifts to bring people around. The fact your husband feels so strongly about all of this tells me that the Holy Spirit is working in his heart. Be encouraged! Yes, you are still on shaky ground at the moment, but he is moving in the right direction. As my husband put it last night, no matter where you stand, Jesus is Someone you can't ignore. He has had a profound impact on the world, and there is no other explanation than the fact He is Who He said He is. Being called to become a Christian is God's work, and He works in many different ways, each unique to each person.

As far as your coworkers are concerned, I'd just tell them, look, maybe my husband wasn't faithful, but I am. I am keeping my vows. He has returned to me. So you might as well give it up, because I'm not going to pay attention to you anyway. Marriages can be healed, and God does mend them, and when that happens, and God's hand is in it, it can be much stronger than it would seem possible. Remember, the Christian faith is about grace, which means the UNMERITED favor of God. Marriage is a covenant that God designed. He will undertake. Put yourself in God's hands, and let Him do the work of bringing you back together. The situation is NOT your fault, so don't blame yourself, and I think I'd tell you family exactly the same thing. You are trusting in God for His healing of your marriage, and that's the end of the argument!

God already died for your husband's sin of straying from your marriage. Now rely on the grace of God to forgive him completely as well. He will give it. All you have to do is ask. And tell your husband all of this! Tell him that you are forgiving him because God forgave him, and He has put it on your heart to forgive him as well; this is the Christian way.

Congratulations on the new little one! May God bless all of you richly.

Hugs,
Pat
[> [> [> Subject: Re: No good option


Author:
Sharon
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Date Posted: 11/16/07 11:12am

Tammy,

I agree with Heather, your message reflects a great deal of wisdom and depth. You are clearly doing some intense soul-searching right now.

I don't know what the future holds for you and your husband. But, if you continue to walk in integrity (not trying to mold your actions to please others or worrying too much about what outsiders think), I believe you will be rewarded with peace and contentment in the long run.

And, lastly, don't be too hard on yourself for not feeling "joyful" at the news of this new little one's arrival in your life. It's COMPLETELY understandable, given the trying circumstances surrounding this pregnancy, that you would have mixed feelings about it at best. That does NOT mean you won't welcome this little one into your life when he or she is born. In fact, a number of us have met the initial news of some our pregnancies with heartsickness, to say the least. It's important to not fall victim to feeling unnecessary guilt for that. It's perfectly normal. When you feel overwhelming joy while holding him or her in your arms later on, and are tempted to feel "unworthy" because you were hoping for a miscarriage early on in the pregnancy (as I was with my first pregnancy), just remember to be gentle with yourself - you are human, as we all are. That sort of guilt benefits no one. Just give in to the joy when it comes - and it will ;-)

Sharon



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