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Date Posted: 03:37:01 03/06/02 Wed
Author: Princess Twilite (Admin.)
Subject: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread

The Walk Down Memory Lane has moved here permanately. I don't want to take up Aya's bandwith when I could be taking care of everything myself.

So welcome to the discussion of Lonely Hearts- which was once slated to be the controversial ep: Corrupt- http://www.studiesinwords.de/shooting/corrupt1.html. A very dark ep that was not allowed on the WB.
LH:
Scripts: http://www.studiesinwords.de/a02lonelyhearts.html
ScreenCaps: http://sanctuary.digitalspace.net/gallery/lonely.htm

I'll come back and dicuss with ya'll in a few hours, have fun:)

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[> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- LadyFireHorse, 04:31:47 03/06/02 Wed

Well I've learned something new right off the start. I had no idea that the WB wounldn't air this episode. Did they never show it at all or did it have to be redone to be aired? I watched it like I have all of season one, just recently on a tape and I have to admit it was pretty gross even by "vampire show" standards....lol
The introduction of Kate was awkward I thought. If this was supposed to be his new love interest there was definately NOTHING there..lol She had the personality of a wet paper bag, she slumps over and that deer in the headlights look just makes me loose it :o)
Cordy was adorable. I couldn't help but laugh at her reaction when that guy thought she was a hooker and aaaaawwww wasn't it sweet of Doyle to defend her "honor"? lol
The reactions of Doyle and Angel seeing her apartment for the first time crack me up....lol At first Doyle is almost impressed that a woman can live so "relaxed" until he steps in a cold cereal bowl...lol "you're disgusting" Just kills me and then Angel's reaction when he stops talking midsentence and looks around with a smile "you actually live here?" Angel KNOWS how unCordy that apartment is!

Anyway lots of cute, sweet, funny bits in this episode so lets rattle them out.

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[> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- Morrigan, 10:27:06 03/06/02 Wed

I haven't seen this eppy since it aired, so I had to go back and read the transcript to refresh my memory. Didn't really like the introduction of Kate's character, she seemed blah from the start and, never really picked up, IMO. I might have also been a bit against her b/c when Angel first aired I liked the idea of A/C togther. I gave up after a little while b/c it looked like ME were going for A/K and C/D. Ironic that we may actully get A/C soon, only took 3 years :bitter:. Any way there are some really odd things about this eppy. I don't think they were too sure where to go with Cordy, she kind of bounced back and fourth between ditzy and savey. On one hand, she's being all proactive and getting business cards set up and on the other she can't run a single search on the internet! How many of us didn't have to suffer through a typing class in highschool? Plus she was in Ms. Calendar's Comp. class in season 2 BTVS. Just thought that was odd. I actually liked the C/D talks they were funny together although he tried way too hard. Liked Angel's reaction when he got a look at Cordy's place. He knew that wasn't her normal style. I'm going to have to go back and read the script for the original eppy, to see if it handeled Kate's character any better. Over all it was a pretty decent ep, got a little more insight into each of the characters.

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[> [> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- Princess Twilite (Admin.), 11:20:20 03/06/02 Wed

I'm on the boat that this episode was good in some ways and bad in others, I didn't care much for Kate, but I wasn't really against her either, her character just seemed a little... Grooish to me.

And about Cordy not being good with searching the internet, remember in the very first Ep of Buffy, how she was trying to cheat off of Willow in Computer Class... I just thought that was a nice continuity... but then later on she seems to know tons about computers..

Well it was pretty obvious Angel and Doyle didn't know much and since she's the girl Friday;) it's obvious that it had to be her to learn... oooh and the moment when she showed Angel and Doyle the business card...

Man, now I'm all nostalgic-- As much as I think it was a right turn for them to kill Doyle off considering what it's done to Cordy's character... I still miss him sometimes, pretty pathetic considering he was only in nine eps huh?:)

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[> [> [> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- Spike 'n Cordy, 14:43:07 03/06/02 Wed

This episode had it's ups and downs. the ups were the group interaction. I liked how Doyle asked Angel to talk him up to Cordy and how Angel didn't know him so well so he wouldn't have to lie.

Kate was boring. She was a strong blonde that was suppose to peak Angel's interest. Now I wasn't a die hard B/Aer but even I thought it was too soon to bring in a potential love interest. (Can't say the same for what happened on Buffy. The Parker guy.) Every episode where there was a potential love interest introduced, I didn't enjoy. (With the exception of 'Eternity' but I can't talk about that for a few weeks.)

Any way, some good group scenes and some boring Kate scenes.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- rousedower, 16:15:24 03/06/02 Wed

Ah yes, forgot about that! I liked that Angel refused to talk Doyle up to Cordy. Simply for the fact that he didn't really know Doyle at the time, hence he didn't really trust him, and didn't really want Cordy getting involved with him. Hey, it's A/C subtext!

>I'm on the boat that this episode was good in some
>ways and bad in others, I didn't care much for Kate,
>but I wasn't really against her either, her character
>just seemed a little... Grooish to me.
>
>And about Cordy not being good with searching the
>internet, remember in the very first Ep of Buffy, how
>she was trying to cheat off of Willow in Computer
>Class... I just thought that was a nice continuity...
>but then later on she seems to know tons about
>computers..
>
>Well it was pretty obvious Angel and Doyle didn't know
>much and since she's the girl Friday;) it's obvious
>that it had to be her to learn... oooh and the moment
>when she showed Angel and Doyle the business card...
>
>Man, now I'm all nostalgic-- As much as I think it was
>a right turn for them to kill Doyle off considering
>what it's done to Cordy's character... I still miss
>him sometimes, pretty pathetic considering he was only
>in nine eps huh?:)

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[> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- rousedower, 11:01:37 03/06/02 Wed

Ugh, this is one of my non-favorites. Kate just never clicked with me, and I never saw chemistry between DB and ER, so I was utterly BORED during all their scenes together, and during Kate's solo scenes.

I did like the A/C/D interactions though, especially at the club. It was cool to see Cordy go out on a case with them so quickly, even if she really only went to promote the business.

I don't have much else to say, since I didn't care all that much for this ep.

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[> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- Morrigan, 12:31:11 03/06/02 Wed

Yeah, this wasn't a particular favorite of mine either. It kind of just falls in there between "City Of" and "In the Dark".

I didn't expect Cordy to be a computer pro but, not being able to find ' on the keyboard is a little too ditzy even for me. :)

The A/C/D scenes were really nice, you could see that they were forming a little group. I really wasn't a big Doyle fan when he was on the show, I was upset when the killed him off but that was b/c he just started to grow on me and, I had no idea it was coming.

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[> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- rousedower, 12:32:28 03/06/02 Wed

I know Joss wrote "City Of..", but who wrote "Lonely Hearts"? Was it Minear, since he apparently liked Kate so much?

It's funny, I never really cared before who wrote what, but now it's a big deal.

>Ugh, this is one of my non-favorites. Kate just never
>clicked with me, and I never saw chemistry between DB
>and ER, so I was utterly BORED during all their scenes
>together, and during Kate's solo scenes.
>
>I did like the A/C/D interactions though, especially
>at the club. It was cool to see Cordy go out on a case
>with them so quickly, even if she really only went to
>promote the business.
>
> I don't have much else to say, since I didn't care
>all that much for this ep.

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[> [> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- Iris, 16:00:04 03/06/02 Wed

I looooved the business card scene (A butterfly? Owl? Bird?)
Personaly I've never seen anything but an Angel but I love that this is a running joke. A/C/D were all so cut in their little after fight bonding talk in the club. I'm having serious Doyle missage at the moment. And yes I can watch Angel's reaction to Cordy's appartment over and over and Cordy's reaction to Angel's reaction (It was supposed to go home, hotel, hotel, husband - Hyperion anyone?).

No I've never been a huge Kate fan. I like her as a friend for Angel but not a love interest. It still cracks me up that they met in truely tragic singles bar - and no one's written a fic teasing Kate about the fact she used to frequent that place?

Anyhoo have to work now But I'll be back.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- yabyumpan, 10:18:01 03/07/02 Thu

This was an ok ep, socially inept A was quite funny, it's a shame they didn't go with original script, i think that would have made Kate more interesting although I did like her. Question, does anyone know what the song is that's played as the demon goes from body to body?

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- rousedower, 13:02:36 03/07/02 Thu

I'm not sure, but I think the song played is "Touched" by VAST.

>This was an ok ep, socially inept A was quite funny,
>it's a shame they didn't go with original script, i
>think that would have made Kate more interesting
>although I did like her. Question, does anyone know
>what the song is that's played as the demon goes from
>body to body?

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[> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- rgw, 19:46:48 03/06/02 Wed

I'll have to agree with the rest of you that this episode was OK, but not spectacular.

I didn't really mind Kate. Funny, I never saw her as a love interest, or a potential love interest, for Angel at all. Some time before the season started, I read an interview with DG or Joss or possibly both, that said that Kate would be involved in his life, but not in a romantic way. Maybe that helped me. *shrugs*

Anyway, I kind of liked Kate as a friend for Angel. Every TV private investigator has a contact on the police force, and it seemed to me that Kate was obviously intended to fill that role for Angel. The fact that she didn't trust him, and was obviously going to be freaked when she found out what he was, created the potential for some interesting drama in future episodes.

The A/C/D interactions were fun. It was nice to see Angel start to interact with people, but I wasn't too excited about Doyle's obvious pursuit of Cordelia. It wasn't that I didn't like it, I just never really got into it.

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[> [> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- Dannyblue, 11:11:29 03/07/02 Thu

Anyone else have Kate pegged as an obvious Buffy clone? The blond hair. The "likes to fight" attitude. The "gazing longingly at Angel" thing.

After Buffy, it would seem like Kate would be exactly Angel's type. So, if they didn't want her to come across as a potential love interest, they didn't do a very good job of nipping that notion in the bud, did they?

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[> [> [> [> Re: Official A Walk Down Memory Lane: Lonely Hearts thread -- rousedower, 12:58:40 03/07/02 Thu

I know. Kate was so obviously introduced as a potential love interest. I think those comments by DG was due to all the backlash they were getting, not just because of Kate, but also Riley.

I can understand Kate's attraction to Angel, but the writer's clearly wanted there to be tension between A/K.

>Anyone else have Kate pegged as an obvious Buffy
>clone? The blond hair. The "likes to fight" attitude.
>The "gazing longingly at Angel" thing.
>
>After Buffy, it would seem like Kate would be exactly
>Angel's type. So, if they didn't want her to come
>across as a potential love interest, they didn't do a
>very good job of nipping that notion in the bud, did
>they?

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