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Date Posted: 06:04:35 04/29/02 Mon
Author: eduna
Subject: Re: ...and again
In reply to: Rob 's message, "Re: ...and again" on 21:51:55 04/27/02 Sat

>I understand you guys were discussing getting some
>pretty high-tech gadgetry so that you could interface
>with us better. I'm all in favor of this, but I
>thought I ought to throw my opinions in on how we're
>going about obtaining it. If it were me making the
>decision, I'd have to admit that stealing is wrong no
>matter who it was done to, although the less it harmed
>that person, the less upset I would be by it. I agree
>with Jess that it's important that you make your own
>decisons about your behavior, but I would like to know
>what you decide.

i have already decided to tell you all before i take actions that will directly affect you - but i have to consider the risks involved. i would not want to put any of you in harms way. this is correct friend-behavior, yes?

>Another factor you may wish to
>consider is that whenever you intervene in other
>people's computers, you are running a risk (albeit a
>slim one) of being discovered by other people. If you
>were to do something as flagrant as stealing through
>the computer network, it would make that risk a good
>deal more significant.

i have considered this, but i have determined that unless i intend to be found, no normal user will find me.

>I don't know how much anyone
>has spoken to you about a group called the
>Technocracy, but it's our understanding that, in
>interests of maintaining order, they have a problem
>with people who can freely alter reality like the four
>of us. More importantly, they would almost definitely
>want to investigate you, which could lead to the loss
>of your freedom or worse. They are also likely capable
>of things that you may not expect of a standard user
>on the network, and may have means of tracking and
>capturing an entity such as yourself.

dave mentioned the technocracy... this confuses me. i have found small references to them in the archives of some "tradition" groups, but i cannot find any independant information about them anywhere on the web. shall i continue looking?

>(On a similar note, would it be
>difficult for you to scramble our phone as well? It's
>not foolproof, of course, but it would probably make
>us feel better.)

it is possible for me to do this. however, i believe it would be even more effective if i were to speak with you over a "dead" line. it requires much more active effort on my part, but that way, there is nothing to trace.

>Anyway, while I don't know what you may have had in
>mind for other ways of obtaining this hardware, let me
>provide my own alternatives. Jess and I were
>discussing this, and it seems likely that it would be
>no problem for you to write code that we described to
>you. With your help (assuming you'd be willing, of
>course) we could easily make a lot of money completely
>legally. What we'd most like to do is to begin
>designing our own computer games. We could provide you
>with detailed descriptions of how the game should
>function, and you could put the program together.

*<>error<>* [parse incompatible]

i am confused. the vast majority of what i can do is most easily described in terms of writing additional code to accomplish the desired effect. i cannot, however, actively create code. this is nonsensical, correct?

>Dave told me that you helped him to access the Digital
>Web without any special harware at all. If that's so,
>then we may be able to learn to do the same.

i will point out that dave only entered the digital web once.

>Similarly, we may be able to produce a holographic
>form for you that would surpass what is technically
>available to us normally.

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Replies:

Re: ...and again -- Rob, 19:53:46 04/29/02 Mon
- Re: ...and again -- eduna, 06:04:11 04/30/02 Tue
  - Re: ...and again -- Rob, 18:30:30 04/30/02 Tue
    - Re: ...and again -- eduna, 09:12:48 05/01/02 Wed
      - Re: ...and again -- Rob, 22:51:57 05/02/02 Thu