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• Nothing to do with morals, it’s wanting good senior players at the club setting an example (you see stories about iwobi/rob/lukic etc?) About not wanting an ok football player on obscene, elite level wages and for someone who hasn’t shown any sort of consistency on the pitch for a while now, who’s work rate and body language is poor at best and which our current head coach wouldn't tolerate (Perriera got dropped for less than rashfords interview) (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, December 18, 05:40:13pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
  • Henry Winter says Manchester United want to sell Rashford. He mentioned nothing about behaviour, but did think the club might be motivated by money on this matter. As far as I'm aware Fulham FC have no desire to sell Pereira. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, December 18, 06:49:30pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
    • Not sure you’re getting the point. Perriera was chastised and dropped for his translated press conference; Rashford had clearly planned this interview with his mate winter, to tell the world he wants to leave the club he so apparently loves, which absolutely screws Utd when it comes to negotiating, he’s an immature player with a patchy record at best with an over inflated contract, almost a microcosm of a lot of what’s wrong with modern football players. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, December 18, 08:22:40pm (82-132-234-230.dab.02.net/82.132.234.230)
      • You obviously don't like him as a person or a footballer. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, December 18, 09:11:46pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
        • I don’t know him to like or dislike, but given you multiple on and off the pitch reasons why we wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole and your only rebuttal is, well we’ve all done stuff. I know he’s a darling of the left, but he behaves like an immature youth player on and off the field, not a senior leader, which is where he should be at, it’s all a moot point, we wouldn’t go anywhere near him and nor will 99% of other clubs. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, December 19, 08:40:30am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
          • Are you presenting a full picture of this young man? In football he is not performing well. In his charity work, he is first class. So good that he was awarded an MBE. You have not acknowledged this. So I don't think it's accurate to say that he is immature. Is he focussed enough on football? I guess not. Could he be? - yes. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, December 19, 09:54:41am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
          • Rashford has his faults like all the rest of us.You call him immature and then say something incredibly immature.Darling of the left FFS.He was doing what all our poxy politicians of all hues should be doing.Showing a bit of intelligence and empathy. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, December 19, 10:53:50am (NoHost/31.94.15.4)
            • And compassion, a quality and strength not often enough shown in football, as exampled by Tim Ream against Sheffield United last season. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, December 19, 11:24:27am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
            • Yeh but I don’t care if he spends his time doing charity work frankly, if i want to sign a football player it’d to be a top football player and for that money they’d need to be a leader and set an example to younger players, whereas he’s shown to be inconsistent at best recently, poor work rate, poor body language and as above none of the attributes of what I want my young players to show, good for him re; charity, but I’m not signing a player because they do stuff for charity. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, December 19, 12:00:54pm (82-132-233-58.dab.02.net/82.132.233.58)
              • I get that part of your arguement. I don't get it that you think him immature and not a leader. Off the pitch, the evidence is clearly there that he's both leader and mature. On the pitch less so. The interesting thing for me is why he doesn't show it on the pitch, and what factors would have to be different in order for him to perform better on the pitch. currently he's compartmentalising his abilities and skills. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, December 19, 12:46:32pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
                • You and me see things differently, ‘sleeping in’ repeatedly missing team meetings, getting dropped doesn’t scream maturity/leadership, neither does going to Belfast until the early hours, calling in sick for training, neither is arranging an interview, saying he wants to leave whilst under contract, nor is going out in Manc after a 3-0 loss to city, repeated immature behaviour not what I’d expect from a leader, most Utd fans can’t stand him now, despite being ‘one of their own’ (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, December 19, 01:30:40pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
              • I don’t want to sign him and I’d be incredibly surprised if we did.I’d say just about every politician in every party could take a leaf out of his non football book.Farage must be pissing himself.Scary times. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, December 19, 01:36:54pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)