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Subject: More messages from New England judges/teachers on Main voy
Author: google doc. so sick of this.	[ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ] Date Posted: 15:18:00 10/07/24 Mon Why parents continue to support these schools is beyond me. [ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: elaborate please. Don’t see anything
Author: curious [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:00:27 10/07/24 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: https://docs.google.com/file/d/1Qpt22drwipzF3HdwBa99T7Vk0hUxzmqQ/edit?filetype=mspresentation
Author: Here ye go [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:05:54 10/07/24 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: They are on UK Voy. Main keeps deleting all negative posts
Author: Embarrassing [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:38:44 10/08/24 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Not just one either, talking about a couple.
Author: Sad days for new england [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:43:04 10/08/24 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: I only recognize BB. Who else is NE
Author: curious [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:25:02 10/08/24 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: DP is in NE. Dancers do well.
Author: and we all know about HPK [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:42:41 10/08/24 Tue So big players in a lot of age groups. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I think the post above about multiple TCs was talking about how the newest one was getting called out on the UK voy.
Author: Coming right along like the other gals over there [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:54:34 10/09/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The dancing will speak for itself.. We all know what NE school this is coming from. Spreading lies before O.
Author: -greenisnotagoodlook [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:37:25 10/13/24 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Will it though? Or will crooked teachers continue to build up their conflicts of interest, while making sure a chosen few get results and benefits not earned?
Author: Branded with the mark of the devil [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:35:02 10/15/24 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Whoa 🤣🤣🤣sounding a bit culty there. Back in your cave.Stop making assumptions and accusations about people you don’t even know on an anonymous board.
Author: -liesbeforeO,every.single.year [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:46:09 10/28/24 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: GD and BB. Does BB identify as bisexual?
Author: Met his “wife” ?! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:52:11 10/11/24 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Several workshop teachers named to that list. Connected with OSC & Murray via JK
Author: Many more cheats in the region [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:35:38 10/13/24 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Forgot about the workshop connections.
Author: that is depressing. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:25:57 10/16/24 Wed too much cheating. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: This. Forbes & Stillson’s association teachers leaked on tattle treble
Author: TT [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:46:34 10/16/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: AND why HPK became HPK.
Author: Few innocent here. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:46:42 10/16/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: What is the story there? Strange that they are so far apart and seem like separate schools???
Author: Newer parent [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:27:32 10/24/24 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: This is awful- those adds plus the above make up most podiums and WQ in the region.
Author: abhorrent to have so many [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:36:42 10/16/24 Wed I wish someone who has their child in a school that is known to cheat would be brave enough to explain the "why" they keep their children in these schools or move their children to these schools? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Staying at a school probably has to do with the 6 month ban? And with a new school/TC accussed so frequently hard to go somewhere where there isn't cheating? CLRG makes it real hard to change once you've started, esp if your dancer is older
Author: Devil's Advocate [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:30:19 10/24/24 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: But if you know that your teacher cheats for your child
Author: why would you support that- even with the ban? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:22:50 10/29/24 Tue I get the devils advocate thing- but seriously, we've all seen people switch TO cheating schools (and sit the ban) because they know that the cheating schools will help their child "win". Curious why people aren't willing to do a 6 month ban to get their child OUT of a cheating school? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It’s fair to hold people responsible for their own actions, but it’s going too far to assume that anyone who hires or learns from them is automatically supporting their past mistakes.
Author: Not guilty by association [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:32:17 10/29/24 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Past mistakes is not a thing
Author: cheaters are still cheating [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:50:25 11/05/24 Tue just because text messages are old does not mean any of the teachers have changed their behaviors. they haven't. and if you pay money to a person that cheats for your child you most definitely support them. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: That's not true. If you know a teacher is one of the cheaters, then attending their school, or if you're a feis committee, hiring them to judge your feis, does indeed mean that you support cheating.
Author: facts [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:50:52 11/06/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: We have also decided not to support any NE feis that hires adjudicators from that list; how can you compete against crooked judges
Author: do your research [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:22:05 10/09/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Petrocelli - new feis in MA has a couple and we wont attend with them
Author: Shame but too close to O’s [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:04:05 10/09/24 Wed Not worth the risk of injury, especially with those on the list judging. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: McGough is judging Oireachtas… are you going to protest that too?
Author: Oink oink [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:29:53 10/13/24 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: And why is this an issue as the whistleblower who blew the lid off the scandal? You all want transparency and then attack the messenger?
Author: Is this a great country or what? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:56:26 10/29/24 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: we won’t attend feis where friends are hired as judges year after year. Seems to happen more in NE than other regions
Author: curious [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:35:11 10/09/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Without NAFC oversight limiting the number of feis running any weekend, I don’t see how any feis could find (and afford) enough judges and avoid the list completely.Not ideal but I will
Author: Support fellow schools doing their best [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:04:29 10/14/24 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: There are about 620 ADCRGs worldwide...
Author: They have options... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:40:25 10/14/24 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: They don't have unlimited funds, especially these days with very low numbers, to fly in and house 98% of them to fill a panel. Its a bit shortsighted to just look at numbers.
Author: AP [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:45:22 10/15/24 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: So what's the excuse when you fly in a cheat? Really, wanting to be in with the up and coming?
Author: ... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 05:54:15 10/16/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Ahhhhh I see, still grinding that axe years later.
Author: ciao [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:01:44 10/17/24 Thu Can't rationally talk pros and cons with those who want to tear other people apart no matter what, so I'll bow out. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: The sheer quantity and detail of names and placements in this set of slides elucidates the depths of the corruption. It's as if virtually all of the recallers for majors are selected before anyone goes on stage. It always felt that this was the case to me - but this is real validation of my sense that no actual "judging" really takes place.
Author: Thanks to the poster - Glad we're skipping Os [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:59:19 11/01/24 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: It's been like this for YEARS- now the parents finally know
Author: "winning" means very little [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:32:58 11/05/24 Tue shame that it wasn't cleaned up when they had a chance. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]