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[> [> [> [> Joan -- Catie, 15:40:56 02/08/08 Fri [1] (h78.134.141.67.ip.alltel.net/67.141.134.78)

Sorry. Actually, I can't. :) The main reason being major doctrinal differences. It gets in depth at this point. It would be a waste of my time because were are on the opposite ends of the scale doctrinally. Regarding the return of Christ- the basis of our core beliefs come in to play here. Simply put, without getting too detailed, reading the book of Daniel, and Revelations, one can clearly see where the world is today in terms of bible prophecy. I have no doubt whatsoever we are seeing the last "days" of earth. By that I mean it could be as much as 10-50 years (at the most). No man knows the hour, but God said to watch and pray and be ready. He also said he that has wisdom take heed of the word and study it closely. By studying scriptures, WE can know where we are in terms of bible prophecy. So I say we're that close if not closer to the end of earth as we know it. The old and new testament come together as one large puzzle. You must have all the pieces in place in order to see the big (final) picture. :)

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[> [> [> [> [> You can't give one example? -- Joan, 08:09:35 02/09/08 Sat [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: You can't give one example? OOPS -- Joan, 08:12:07 02/09/08 Sat [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

My pinky hit the enter key. lol

I'd like to know what signs (I assume world events and think mostly of the Middle East) that you see pointing to the last days. It doesn't matter that we won't agree what the signs me, or even that we probably won't agree that these things are signs of anything. :) I've heard that some groups believe that the last days are here, and I'd just like to know why they believe that. I'm not looking for a debate, just info.

Joan

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Joan -- Catie, 12:37:01 02/09/08 Sat [1] (h78.134.141.67.ip.alltel.net/67.141.134.78)

Contrary to popular belief it has little to do with what's taking place in the Middle East and the Jewish nation. :)Satan has been very subtle to make sure folks are distracted looking in other areas while he goes about doing his work, for he too knows the end is close, even for him. I can give you some scriptures and you can look them up and read them and see what you make of them for yourself. That's the best I can do without getting
in to huge doctorinal differences. But without following a complete pattern from Genesis to Revelation these may very well make little sense.

One has to get a clear picture of the old testament sanctuary and how sacrifices were performed. The earlthy sanctuary, temple is patterned after the heavenly sanctuary. The Tabernacle on earth blessed by cloud of the Lord by day and by night fire (Exodus 40) The Sanctuary on earth faced the East so worshippers would turn their back on Sun opposite of sunworshipers(Pagans). If you study where we are in terms of the sanctuary and what is taking place now you can see that we are at the end of all to be completed.

Keep in mind the words used in bible prophecy are symbols:
Water=multitudes/Dragon=satan/woman=church/wings=speed/
Angel=voice/Earth=little population/Harlot=anti-christ/Her daughters=her churches. Here are a few scriptures.

Daniel 7:25
Daniel 12:4

Matthew 24:3-7
Matthew 24:11, 23-27
Matthew 24:37-39

Luke 21:25-28
Acts 2:17-21
I Timothy 4:1
II Timothy 3:1-5
II Timothy 4:1-4

Revelations: 1:3,9
Revelations: 12:17

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Joan - forgot- -- Catie, 12:42:18 02/09/08 Sat [1] (h78.134.141.67.ip.alltel.net/67.141.134.78)

When doing biblical math, a day is a year in terms of propehcy.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Joan -- Joan, 14:21:47 02/09/08 Sat [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

OK, I think I know what you're getting at, and why you would rather not go into detail. Enough said. :)
Joan