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Sharing two extremely disturbing articles -- catie, 08:15:29 08/17/07 Fri [28] (h69.42.91.75.ip.alltel.net/75.91.42.69)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20279326/?GT1=10252 and
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-...a&ctrack=1&cset=true (this one requires a login so I'll abbreviate it here) Quoting:

Wiley S. Drake, a Buena Park pastor and a former national leader of the Southern Baptist Convention, called on his followers to pray for the deaths of two leaders of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

The request was in response to the liberal group's urging the IRS on Tuesday to investigate Drake's church's nonprofit status because Drake endorsed former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee for president on church letterhead and during a church-affiliated Internet radio show.

Drake said Wednesday he was "simply doing what God told me to do" by targeting Americans United officials Joe Conn and Jeremy Leaming, whom he calls the "enemies of God."

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- How do you feel about Church being involved with politics? (NT) -- Catie, 10:14:10 08/17/07 Fri
  - Re: How do you feel about Church being involved with politics? -- Joan, 14:07:44 08/17/07 Fri
- Re:This is nothing new... -- Phil, 11:07:40 08/17/07 Fri
- Re: On the Dutch event.... -- Phil, 12:01:35 08/17/07 Fri
  - The meaning of co-existence -- Joan, 18:20:05 08/18/07 Sat
    - Re: Joan you're making more outta this.... -- Phil, 21:50:30 08/18/07 Sat
      - I think I got it just right. -- Joan, 03:27:32 08/19/07 Sun
        
        Re: To brand me a racist is simply not on.... -- Phil, 06:38:57 08/19/07 Sun
        
        Well, Phil, I have to say that no one loves you the way you do. ;-) -- Joan, 13:07:07 08/19/07 Sun
        
        Re: I said SOME of you NE'rs... -- Phil from AZ, 13:47:48 08/19/07 Sun
        
        Sure, Phil. :-) -- Joan, 15:42:03 08/19/07 Sun
        
        Re: Yes, I'll admit to provoking thought.... -- Phil, 16:11:55 08/19/07 Sun
        
        That's it exactly, Phil. :-) -- Joan, 04:36:06 08/20/07 Mon
- Heck, "certain" of the Arab countries and factions............. -- Barb, 12:56:08 08/17/07 Fri
  - Re: Amen Barb!!! (NT) -- Phil, 13:01:19 08/17/07 Fri
    - Just 2 words Phil....and such complying ones! Thank you kind sir. :-) (NT) -- Barb, 13:02:38 08/17/07 Fri
      - Re: You may not be as alone as you think, Barb! -- Phil, 13:32:42 08/17/07 Fri
        
        Thanks, Phil. :-) (NT) -- Barb, 10:49:43 08/19/07 Sun
        
        Re: You're most welcome Barb! (NT) -- Phil, 16:15:01 08/19/07 Sun
  - Barb, do you think the Palestinians should be allowed -- Joan, 14:23:27 08/17/07 Fri
    - Joan................ -- Barb, 07:58:06 08/18/07 Sat
      - Re: Joan................ -- Joan, 04:11:38 08/19/07 Sun
        
        Joan.................... -- Barb, 07:52:10 08/19/07 Sun
- Uh, is that a Christian church? -- Joan, 13:59:47 08/17/07 Fri
  - Re: I'm sorry I misunderstd... -- Phil, 14:05:59 08/17/07 Fri
  - Re: Uh, is that a Christian church? -- Catie, 05:05:36 08/20/07 Mon
    - Re: Uh, is that a Christian church? -- Joan, 14:08:24 08/20/07 Mon
Christmas -- Neysa, 23:06:09 08/14/07 Tue [14] (user-38lcibm.dialup.mindspring.com/209.86.73.118)
Do any of you feel that 'Christ' has been taken out of Chritmas, and that we have lost the religious meaning of the holiday? Which is about the celebration of the birth of Christ.

Do any of you feel that it has become too centered on the consumerism of buying gifts? I walked into a store last week that already had some Christmas decorations for sale...it's only August!

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- Re: Yes, Christmas is way too materialistic in my opinion! -- Phil, 23:10:49 08/14/07 Tue
- I like it the way it is. -- Joan, 05:22:08 08/15/07 Wed
- Re: Christmas -- Catie, 05:34:12 08/15/07 Wed
  - Joan -- Catie, 06:41:15 08/15/07 Wed
    - Re: Joan -- Joan, 09:57:56 08/15/07 Wed
      - Re: Joan -- Catie, 04:59:59 08/17/07 Fri
        
        Peeps -- Joan, 05:15:27 08/17/07 Fri
        
        That's exactly how it was at my house too. Church seemed xtra long on that day. lol (NT) -- catie, 05:31:31 08/17/07 Fri
        
        Oh Catie, what memories!............... -- Barb, 07:37:41 08/17/07 Fri
        
        Yeah, it makes me want some chocolate. :) (NT) -- Catie, 08:16:38 08/17/07 Fri
        
        Oh Catie....Simply everything makes you want some chocolate1 lol........... -- Barb, 13:01:16 08/17/07 Fri
        
        Chocolate can actully heal what meds can only think of healing! :) (NT) -- Catie, 06:43:09 08/20/07 Mon
        
        Then Catie, you are a true believer............. -- Barb, 07:50:06 08/20/07 Mon
"Works of the Law" -- Joan, 04:37:24 08/20/07 Mon [3] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
In Romans 3:28, what does "works of the law" mean to you?

Joan

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- Re: "Works of the Law" -- Catie, 05:58:43 08/20/07 Mon
  - I agree with you. -- Joan, 06:24:45 08/20/07 Mon
Do any of you know anything about covenant theology? -- Joan, 13:48:53 08/16/07 Thu [7] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
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- Re: Do any of you know anything about covenant theology? -- catie, 19:55:55 08/16/07 Thu
  - Re: Do any of you know anything about covenant theology? -- Joan, 05:18:14 08/17/07 Fri
    - Well the bible is full of God's covenant. -- catie, 05:27:24 08/17/07 Fri
  - I found this -- Joan, 05:26:19 08/17/07 Fri
    - Interesting -- catie, 05:44:17 08/17/07 Fri
      - Re: Interesting -- Joan, 16:24:34 08/17/07 Fri
Religious Person -- Neysa, 23:18:21 08/14/07 Tue [11] (user-38lcibm.dialup.mindspring.com/209.86.73.118)
Who is a religious person ( dead or alive ) that you admire the most ?

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- Pope John Paul II (NT) -- Joan, 05:25:34 08/15/07 Wed
- Re: Religious Person -- Catie, 05:25:43 08/15/07 Wed
- Mother Teresa (NT) -- Neysa, 10:22:50 08/15/07 Wed
- St. Francis and St. Clare (NT) -- Linda Lu, 17:57:56 08/16/07 Thu
  - Hey, Linda! -- Joan, 05:19:22 08/17/07 Fri
    - Oh no! yet another Catholic! *hee*hee Linda, I'm joking of course. -- Catie, 05:48:21 08/17/07 Fri
      - Correction: -- catie, 05:49:22 08/17/07 Fri
      - Catie....and you think you've got problems here! lol (NT) -- Barb, 07:32:13 08/17/07 Fri
        
        Don't worry Barb, You've always got me. I'm a big ole gal so we is safe . *hee*hee (NT) -- Catie, 09:42:33 08/17/07 Fri
        
        I've got a big ole mouth! :-# As long as there's safety in numbers. lol (NT) -- Barb, 12:59:14 08/17/07 Fri
Religious Holiday -- Neysa, 13:26:11 08/14/07 Tue [21] (user-38lciga.dialup.mindspring.com/209.86.74.10)
What is your favorite religious holiday and why?

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- Christmas!! As the song says: It's the best time of the year! :) -- Catie, 13:28:37 08/14/07 Tue
- Easter -- Joan, 13:52:26 08/14/07 Tue
- Chanukah :-)............... -- Barb, 14:31:36 08/14/07 Tue
- Easter -- Neysa, 14:41:45 08/14/07 Tue
- Re: Does Thxgvg Count? -- Phil from AZ, 19:00:47 08/14/07 Tue
  - Re: Oops, my response was a bit wordly. Sorry... (NT) -- Phil from AZ, 21:02:01 08/14/07 Tue
  - Barb................. -- Neysa, 22:37:29 08/14/07 Tue
  - We kind of mix Chanukah and Christmas together........ -- Barb, 11:58:11 08/15/07 Wed
- Re: Religious Holiday -- Lynn, 19:20:35 08/14/07 Tue
  - Lynn..... -- Neysa, 22:19:44 08/14/07 Tue
    - I don't think so Neysa... -- Lynn, 12:08:07 08/15/07 Wed
      - I agree Lynn, Christmas is too commercialized ! (NT) -- Neysa, 13:41:11 08/15/07 Wed
    - Sorry Neysa got off track there... -- Lynn, 12:12:30 08/15/07 Wed
- Phil, Thanksgiving ? -- Neysa, 22:29:36 08/14/07 Tue
Is the Bible the only source of authority? -- Joan, 03:45:17 08/08/07 Wed [53] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
Is the Bible the only thing God left us on Earth? If you believe that the Bible is the only source of authority, where does it say so--that the Bible should be the only source of authority--in the Bible? If it's not in the Bible, on whose authority do you accept that the Bible is the only authority?

Joan

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- Re: Is the Bible the only source of authority? -- catie, 06:13:26 08/08/07 Wed
  - Re: Is the Bible the only source of authority? -- Joan, 13:11:09 08/08/07 Wed
    - Re: Is the Bible the only source of authority? -- Catie, 05:16:32 08/13/07 Mon
- Catholics also have the pope! -- Neysa, 10:46:46 08/08/07 Wed
  - Re: The problem with that argument Neysa... -- Phil, 12:24:32 08/08/07 Wed
    - Phil ............................. -- Neysa, 12:29:18 08/08/07 Wed
      - Re: Oops, sorry Dear...I must've missed that!!!. -- Phil from AZ, 12:34:32 08/08/07 Wed
      - I hit "SEND" too soon............. -- Neysa, 12:36:54 08/08/07 Wed
        
        Re: Fair enough Neysa....sorry I misunderstood (NT) -- Phil, 12:49:31 08/08/07 Wed
    - I'm not sure that you understand what Papal Infallibility actually is. -- Joan, 13:05:18 08/08/07 Wed
      - Wait. That's not what I meant to say. -- Joan, 13:15:28 08/08/07 Wed
    - Re: The problem with that argument Neysa... -- Joan, 13:12:21 08/08/07 Wed
      - Re: That's a piece of cake, Joan... -- Phil from AZ, 14:53:51 08/08/07 Wed
        
        Phil.....My husband and I are heading back to London........ -- Barb, 15:50:51 08/08/07 Wed
        
        Re: I wouldnt stay in London at all. LoL -- Phil from AZ, 17:31:56 08/08/07 Wed
        
        Phil, this is our 7th trip to London, dear! .................... -- Barb, 08:21:08 08/09/07 Thu
        
        Re: Sounds like y'got a handle on it, then.... -- Phil from AZ, 08:40:35 08/09/07 Thu
        
        I like Chester too. Lost Ian on the wall one time! lol :-# (NT) -- Barb, 09:29:57 08/09/07 Thu
        
        Re:Hmm, I'm wondering if... -- Phil from AZ, 13:00:28 08/09/07 Thu
        
        Those little Chester shops...... -- Barb, 13:28:24 08/09/07 Thu
        
        Re: I'm afraid I have to agree on a couple counts... -- Phil, 14:05:05 08/09/07 Thu
        
        Re:Further analysis reveals.... -- Phil from AZ, 14:12:48 08/09/07 Thu
        
        Phil, Faith Based Funds........ -- Neysa, 15:59:48 08/09/07 Thu
        
        Re: My opinion is... -- Phil from AZ, 16:44:39 08/09/07 Thu
        
        Thanks, Phil ! (NT) -- Neysa, 18:11:54 08/09/07 Thu
        
        Re: You're welcome Neysa! (NT) -- Phil, 23:04:20 08/09/07 Thu
      - Example....... -- Neysa, 15:11:54 08/08/07 Wed
      - Re: The problem with that argument Neysa... -- Joan, 05:22:46 08/09/07 Thu
- Joan....... -- Neysa, 13:48:39 08/08/07 Wed
  - Re: Joan....... -- Joan, 05:27:25 08/09/07 Thu
    - Re: Joan....... -- Neysa, 09:30:59 08/09/07 Thu
      - Re: Joan....... -- Joan, 04:18:31 08/11/07 Sat
  - Re: Joan, I'm afraid that's typical... -- Phil from AZ, 06:45:37 08/09/07 Thu
- Joan, what attracts me to Catholicism...... -- Neysa, 10:16:58 08/11/07 Sat
  - Re: Joan, what attracts me to Catholicism...... -- Joan, 11:13:30 08/11/07 Sat
    - Joan,................... -- Neysa, 12:37:59 08/11/07 Sat
      - Re: Joan,................... -- Joan, 03:41:11 08/12/07 Sun
- Follow up -- Neysa, 12:57:55 08/11/07 Sat
  - Neysa..................... -- Barb, 18:16:00 08/11/07 Sat
    - Thanks Barb........ -- Neysa, 21:12:40 08/11/07 Sat
      - I agree with Barb -- Joan, 04:00:23 08/12/07 Sun
        
        I think............ -- Barb, 10:29:31 08/12/07 Sun
        
        Barb.................... -- Neysa, 10:53:01 08/12/07 Sun
        
        I did realize what you meant, Neysa.............. -- Barb, 12:18:28 08/12/07 Sun
        
        Barb, I was in a synagogue once...... -- Neysa, 13:40:19 08/12/07 Sun
        
        Neysa............ -- Barb, 08:16:45 08/13/07 Mon
        
        Yes Barb, I did !!! (NT) -- Neysa, 22:14:09 08/14/07 Tue
        
        Re: I think............ -- Joan, 15:39:37 08/12/07 Sun
        
        Joan..................Happy Birthday...... -- Neysa, 10:59:43 08/12/07 Sun
        
        Happy, happy birthday, Joan! Are you 21......again? :-).......... -- Barb, 12:20:09 08/12/07 Sun
        Thank-you! -- Joan, 15:41:38 08/12/07 Sun
        
        Belated Happy Birthday Joan... -- Lynn, 12:13:29 08/15/07 Wed
OK, back to our regularly scheduled program -- Joan, 04:03:42 08/12/07 Sun [9] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
Since we kinda touched on problematic doctrines, how about discussing the assumption of Mary.

What do you think of the doctrine that Mary was assumed into heaven?

Joan

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- I believe it.................... -- Neysa, 10:32:50 08/12/07 Sun
  - Re: I believe it.................... -- Joan, 15:52:07 08/12/07 Sun
    - Joan -- Neysa, 00:19:01 08/13/07 Mon
- Joan & Neysa -- catie, 05:03:57 08/13/07 Mon
- Nesya -- Catie, 05:37:41 08/13/07 Mon
  - Bumping for Neysa to read (NT) -- Catie, 19:34:56 08/14/07 Tue
- Catie............ -- Neysa, 21:03:17 08/14/07 Tue
  - Neysa -- Catie, 07:29:22 08/15/07 Wed
Faith -- Neysa, 10:36:30 08/12/07 Sun [6] (user-2inik89.dialup.mindspring.com/165.121.81.9)
Do you believe that having a deep religious Faith in God can help you live longer ?

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- Re: I think that in a way... -- Phil, 10:54:06 08/12/07 Sun
  - There is a good deal of logic in what you say, Phil........ -- Barb, 12:25:55 08/12/07 Sun
  - Re: I think that in a way... -- Joan, 15:47:16 08/12/07 Sun
- Re: Faith -- Catie, 05:09:35 08/13/07 Mon
- Re: Faith -- Neysa, 22:50:57 08/14/07 Tue
Saint Barbara :-) -- Barb, 11:14:01 08/14/07 Tue [6] (clgrtnt5-port-119.dial.telus.net/161.184.48.119)
I thought I remembered in the back of my mind, that there was a Saint Barbara. Well, not to sound like a fool here for asking, I looked it up...and voila...I was right!
Saint Barbara was extaordinarily beautiful (but of course) and her father feared that she would go off with another man so had her kept tightly home bound. He went away for a time and while he was gone she turned to religion which really ired him, and she was put to death for her practices...by her own father! Wow!

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- Re: Saint Barbara :-) -- Neysa, 13:21:39 08/14/07 Tue
- St. Barbara indeed. :) -- Catie, 13:30:12 08/14/07 Tue
  - St Catherine of Siena -- Joan, 13:49:30 08/14/07 Tue
    - Re: St Catherine of Siena -- Catie, 20:56:45 08/14/07 Tue
- Saint Barbara 's cruel dad got his just punishment....... -- Neysa, 21:48:54 08/14/07 Tue
Neysa the fact that you had a visit with the Pope -- Catie, 10:26:46 08/13/07 Mon [14] (h32.237.213.151.ip.alltel.net/151.213.237.32)
is no small thing! Please, won't you share more about the children's story you presented to him. As a writer I know how hard it is to get a publisher for a book. If it's not too personal I would love to hear more about your experience of writing and publishing your book.

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- Part 1 -- Neysa, 12:15:35 08/13/07 Mon
- Part 2 -- Neysa, 12:31:20 08/13/07 Mon
- Part 2- continued.............. -- Neysa, 13:40:25 08/13/07 Mon
- Last part........... -- Neysa, 14:47:31 08/13/07 Mon
  - Your story reads like a story....if you know what I mean, Neysa!............ -- Barb, 15:33:20 08/13/07 Mon
    - No, Barb, I have no regrets ! -- Neysa, 16:17:55 08/13/07 Mon
    - Barb,.............. -- Neysa, 21:12:49 08/14/07 Tue
      - oops! Barb,I forgot you get a heart too !!! -- Neysa, 21:17:21 08/14/07 Tue
- Catie.................... -- Neysa, 18:11:26 08/13/07 Mon
- Add........ -- Neysa, 00:39:32 08/14/07 Tue
- Neysa -- Catie, 10:31:49 08/14/07 Tue
  - Thank you so much, Catie, for your kind words ! (NT) -- Neysa, 13:15:48 08/14/07 Tue
- Catie............... -- Neysa, 21:29:11 08/14/07 Tue
Another Catholic Quiz -- Joan, 14:17:42 08/14/07 Tue [6] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
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- This one is a little more difficult -- Joan, 14:23:49 08/14/07 Tue
  - I'll take a stab at it Joan... -- Lynn, 19:32:35 08/14/07 Tue
- Where are the answers to the quiz? (NT) -- Neysa, 14:49:15 08/14/07 Tue
  - Re:Neysa, you're s'posed to provide those.... -- Phil, 15:45:23 08/14/07 Tue
- Oh ! Thanks Phil (NT) -- Neysa, 16:28:00 08/14/07 Tue
Legend of Pope Joan -- Neysa, 23:50:50 08/12/07 Sun [4] (user-38lci29.dialup.mindspring.com/209.86.72.73)
Just some light hearted trivia. In 850, a woman disguised herself as a man, and sat for two years on the papal throne. It is not known whether the story of Pope Joan is true. The first known reference to her occured years later in the 13th century. Most scholars state that Pope Joan, was a medieval legend.

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- Wow. I've never heard this story. (NT) -- Catie, 05:04:48 08/13/07 Mon
- Catie............... -- Neysa, 14:52:03 08/13/07 Mon
  - I like the sound of it. :-) (NT) -- Joan, 05:18:56 08/14/07 Tue
Where is Catie ? -- Neysa, 12:45:34 08/12/07 Sun [4] (user-38lci3v.dialup.mindspring.com/209.86.72.127)
I was just wondering where you are, you haven't been here in a few days ? I hope you are feeling better and your recovery is going well. I keep you in my prayers daily.

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- bump (NT) -- Neysa, 20:59:04 08/12/07 Sun
- Re: Where is Catie ? -- Catie, 04:58:05 08/13/07 Mon
- Catie, glad you're back....missed you. -- Neysa, 14:54:17 08/13/07 Mon
Paul's "Christianity vs Romanism" on Brenda's -- Joan, 07:00:25 08/10/07 Fri [16] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
Brenda's really is a haven for seething anti-Catholics. :-)

What do you think of Paul's comment, "Chrisianity vs Romanism"?

Joan

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- Re: I have yet to figure out his motive.... -- Phil from AZ, 12:18:23 08/10/07 Fri
  - Joel -- Joan, 13:04:38 08/10/07 Fri
    - Re: Exactly right Joan! Spot on!!! -- Phil, 14:05:34 08/10/07 Fri
- Joel is still at it. -- Joan, 10:01:48 08/11/07 Sat
- Brenda removed Joel's thread -- Joan, 10:49:31 08/11/07 Sat
  - Re:I'm afraid you've discovered something Joan... -- Phil from AZ, 16:14:55 08/11/07 Sat
- More on Brenda's -- Joan, 10:55:35 08/11/07 Sat
- Re: Paul's "Christianity vs Romanism" on Brenda's -- Neysa, 13:21:45 08/11/07 Sat
- Joan, Walton's Forum -- Neysa, 15:56:42 08/11/07 Sat
  - Re: Neysa, see above... -- Phil from AZ, 16:20:50 08/11/07 Sat
- Joan -- Catie, 05:51:30 08/13/07 Mon
  - You've got to be joking, Catie!!!.................. -- Barb, 08:13:37 08/13/07 Mon
  - Re: Joan -- Joan, 09:48:00 08/13/07 Mon
  - Re: Just for the record.... -- Phil, 11:57:55 08/13/07 Mon
    - Re: And I should add... -- Phil from AZ, 12:02:59 08/13/07 Mon
Dress at church -- Joan, 03:48:34 08/04/07 Sat [20] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
Did I ask this before? My church is very informal. I wear jeans and sneakers and am not really underdressed compared to other people. Everyone looks about the same.

In the local Catholic newspaper, a priest took us (all Catholics) to task for dressing too casually for church. Aside from the fact that he pulled out his dictionary and found an obscure word for every simple word, and that he probably missed his target audience by doing that, his point should be looked at.

I know that I really should wear sneakers to church, especially because half the time my sneakers are really presentable in any place, they're so old. :-)

What is the typical dress at your church? Do you make a special effort on Sunday morning to look better than usual?

I make the effort if it's Xmas, Easter, a First Communion, Baptism, etc, but I really don't on a "regular" Sunday.

Joan

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- Re: Dress at Synagogue............... -- Barb, 09:50:37 08/04/07 Sat
  - Re: Dress at Synagogue............... -- Catie, 11:36:01 08/04/07 Sat
  - Bothering me..................... -- Barb, 15:06:57 08/05/07 Sun
- Re: Dress at church -- Lynn, 13:11:33 08/04/07 Sat
- Lynn................ -- Neysa, 21:22:35 08/04/07 Sat
  - Neysa...hope this answers your question -- Lynn, 22:13:10 08/04/07 Sat
    - Thanks, Lynn (NT) -- Neysa, 12:43:59 08/05/07 Sun
- Re: Joan: Aug State Holidays....and Church attire... -- Phil from AZ, 23:51:42 08/04/07 Sat
  - I like the idea of a day off just to have a day off. -- Joan, 19:02:27 08/05/07 Sun
    - Joan, I think that's called Labor day. lol (NT) -- Catie, 20:52:06 08/05/07 Sun
      - Oh, rats. -- Joan, 03:41:32 08/07/07 Tue
        
        My Baby! lol I have 2 kiddies born in August! When's your big day? (NT) -- Catie, 05:03:58 08/07/07 Tue
        
        Joan, -- Catie, 05:05:46 08/07/07 Tue
        Mine is the 12th. My sister's is the 13th (a year and a day apart). -- Joan, 07:20:56 08/07/07 Tue
        
        Joan, that's so cool! Are you and your sister close.....friends? (NT) -- Barb, 07:55:03 08/07/07 Tue
        
        Yes. All four of us are. (NT) -- Joan, 04:21:23 08/11/07 Sat
        
        Joan -- Catie, 08:43:58 08/07/07 Tue
        
        er.. that would be Dr. Seuss, not Suess! geez! (NT) -- catie (blue-ribbon speller), 08:46:31 08/07/07 Tue
        In like a lamb....out like a lion! I believe you, Catie! lol (NT) -- Barb, 10:10:20 08/07/07 Tue
Joan........... -- Barb, 15:56:57 08/08/07 Wed [3] (clgrtnt7-port-29.dial.telus.net/161.184.52.29)
Because I am not Catholic and do not participate in depth in your intense discussions, if I am getting off the mark too much with my vague imput, don't feel shy about telling me so. Your forum is mainly a Catholic one and I do not want to hinder your direction.

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- Not at all. Everyone's input is valuable. (NT) -- Joan, 05:29:03 08/09/07 Thu
  - Thanks, Joan! :-) (NT) -- Barb, 08:23:29 08/09/07 Thu

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