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Date Posted: 04:33:23 08/20/07 Mon
Author: Joan
Author Host/IP: ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net / 68.0.253.131
Subject: A funny/pathetic story about a "needy" homeless woman.
In reply to:
Catie
's message, "Re: The Coke Fix" on 17:07:51 08/19/07 Sun
Bob was working in the city w/ another guy who was kinda new to the country. The country he came from is very poor. They have many poor are truly needy.
Bob tried to tell him that here it's a little bit different. The poor guy was so naive. :-)
When the "homeless" woman came up to Bob and the other guy and asked for money for food, Bob told her "No" flat out. When Bob says no, no one asks again. :-) Well, the other guy was shocked. He asked Bob why he said no if the woman was homeless and hungry. Bob told him that she didn't want money for food--she wanted it for either alcohol or drugs. The guy couldn't beleive that, so he walked up to her w/ his lunch and gave her one of his sandwiches--tried to give her one. She looked at it and called him a string of 4-letter words. Bob was rotfl. He said "I *tried* to tell you!"
I get a kick out of the guys who stand on the corner of busy, retail sector intersections w/ signs that say they will work for food. First, many of the retail places are looking for workers. Second, these guys aren't asking the businesses for work, they're asking the people in the cars. And what kind of work will I have for anyone while I'm sitting in my car at an intersection on my way to Wal-mart. Why don't they follow me to Wal-mart and ask for a job?
If you're going to ask for money, be honest. If you want money for a drink, say that. I would be much more likely to pay for a beer if they ask for it than if they claim it's to buy a hotdog. And working for food at an intersection? That's just a pathetic lie. :-)
I have to ask again. Is it Christian to allow people to behave like this? Not merely to allow it, but to participate in the lies and stealing?
I occasionally contribute to the food bank at my church. I feel much better about that. At least I know the food makes it out of the church and into their cars. What they do with it after that is unknown, but I bet more $-wise it's a better bet than the food stamp program. There is no government agency involved, which saves a ton of money.
I would like to see more private charity food banks and fewer government programs. I would also like to see the recipients blood-tested for illegal drugs and nicotine once a year, with the idea that if they have the $ for these things, they have the $ for food.
They should also have to declare all posessions, like cars, jewelry, electronic equipment, etc.
There was a family here that were drug dealers. The whole family was invloved, including the kids. They were on the dole for every program available to the poorest of the poor, because they showed no income. Well, they have 3 or 4 luxury cars and assorted other things that should have alerted the social worker that they didn't need the food stamps.
Sickening. And we're made to feel like we're uncaring, unforgiving, even cruel if we dare to speak up and say that this (even the less flagrant examples) isn't right.
Joan
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Re: A funny/pathetic story about a "needy" homeless woman. -- Catie, 05:19:41 08/20/07 Mon [1] (h69.42.91.75.ip.alltel.net/75.91.42.69)
Panhandling is illegal. Folks standing around with signs begging for food or money is a misdemeanor. Law officals are too busy with other stuff I guess to pick up those folks, book em only to let them out the next day. It actually costs us more money to house and feed them in the jail. So it's a catch 22.
I'm all for helping the needy. The new testament speaks volumes about helping the widows, orphans and the homeless. I am not going to blantantly hand over money to a drug user. No intelligent folk would. But I try to use prudence and good judgement. There is a time to give and a time withhold.
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Re: A funny/pathetic story about a "needy" homeless woman. -- Joan, 06:37:24 08/20/07 Mon [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
"I am not going to blantantly hand over money to a drug user. No intelligent folk would."'
I agree. And I think our government should follow this policy as well Nicotene is a drug. If they can afford their habit, they don't need all of food money they take. Cigs at 5.50 a pack! Smoking 1 or 2 packs a day every day, 365. That's more then $2,000 a year, or $4,000 for a 2-pack habit.
And they can't afford a backpack for the kid? A bologna Sandwich? A box of crayons that are on sale at Wal-Mart for 20 cents?!
How do they do this and sleep at night?
They really burn me up. :-)
Joan
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Joan they sleep very well at night... -- Lynn, 08:46:11 08/20/07 Mon [1] (ip72-193-232-42.lv.lv.cox.net/72.193.232.42)
They have the US at their feet. They don't have to go out and rob a bank or anything, they do the robbing right in front of the governments eyes.
I love the welfare program at our church. If there is a needy family, our church makes sure they get food, clothing, shelter etc until the family gets on their feet. Our church does alot, even for non members of the church. I've seen some miracles happen in the short time i've been a member of this church.
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Re: Joan they sleep very well at night... -- Joan, 09:50:10 08/20/07 Mon [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)
We do the same. But they also decided a few years ago that those families that can afford new cars and trips to Disney no longer qualify for scholarships to the parish school.
And these people are citizens. There families have been here for generations, and they are obviously not poor in the true sense of the word.
Imagine asking your church for $ to send your kid to the school, and then buying new cars and taking fabulous family vacations. And I'm sure that they slept well, too. They figure they deserve a vacation. And they figured that no one would have a problem with them taking $ from the church for school and then giving their own surplus money to Mickey Mouse and Henry Ford for fun and games. Sheesh!!
Where's the responsibility? Why do some feel that, not only don't they have to help those who have less, they feel like they are entitled to any $ or goods that someone will give them, when they have more than "enough"?! Why don't they feel like they should be doing this for their own kids? Why isn't there an internal voice that tells them that taking money from the church when you can afford a trip to Disney is *dead wrong*?
Joan
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Beats me... -- Lynn, 11:18:17 08/20/07 Mon [1] (ip72-193-232-42.lv.lv.cox.net/72.193.232.42)
the system is whacked. Many changes are needed and no one is stepping up to the plate. Us little people don't have a say in anything, so it's a waste of time. I say, if you can't beat em, join em. But then again, two wrongs don't make a right. Your damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Oh well, carry on.
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