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Date Posted: 12:56:08 08/17/07 Fri
Author: Barb
Author Host/IP: clgrtnt9-port-9.dial.telus.net / 161.184.54.9
Subject: Heck, "certain" of the Arab countries and factions.............
In reply to: catie 's message, "Sharing two extremely disturbing articles" on 08:15:29 08/17/07 Fri

have been hell-bent for the destruction of Israel since it became a country in 1948. Talk about mixing religion and politics! :-#

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[> [> Re: Amen Barb!!! -- Phil, 13:01:19 08/17/07 Fri [1] (71-38-101-56.phnx.qwest.net/71.38.101.56)

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[> [> [> Just 2 words Phil....and such complying ones! Thank you kind sir. :-) -- Barb, 13:02:38 08/17/07 Fri [1] (clgrtnt9-port-9.dial.telus.net/161.184.54.9)

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[> [> [> [> Re: You may not be as alone as you think, Barb! -- Phil, 13:32:42 08/17/07 Fri [1] (71-38-101-56.phnx.qwest.net/71.38.101.56)

The vast maj'ty of us on the Christian Rt are very, very supportive of Israel. I also saw a similar respect for the country during my days in the military. Israel is a solid dem'cy which is the Holy Land for a lot of us too. Thus, it behooves us to support such a country times 10!

I do have something positive to say abt a few of those countries in the region: mainly 'moderate' Arab nations such as Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Oman and Bahrain. While not really friends of Israel, they have provided bases and other spt for us in the region. They are worried abt Iran, Iraq, and believe it or not, S Arabia. They fear that the Saudi's will snap them up someday while the rest of the world pays no attn. The jury's still out on those nations though; so I'm not necessarily screamin' my approval yet.

Suffice it to say, though, that we're behind Isreal! Take care, God Bless,

Phil

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[> [> [> [> [> Thanks, Phil. :-) -- Barb, 10:49:43 08/19/07 Sun [1] (clgrtnt6-port-238.dial.telus.net/161.184.50.238)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: You're most welcome Barb! -- Phil, 16:15:01 08/19/07 Sun [1] (71-38-101-56.phnx.qwest.net/71.38.101.56)

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[> [> Barb, do you think the Palestinians should be allowed -- Joan, 14:23:27 08/17/07 Fri [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

to form their own country? If not now, do you think it should ever be allowed? If you think it shouldn't be allowed now, what conditions would have to be met before they can form their own country?

I think they should be allowed to form their own country. Not sure that now is the time. It would just become a terrorist haven. Then again, the area is already.

You want to say that the terrorism has to stop before they can begin to form their own state, but if that were the rule for everyone before them, Israel certainly wouldn't have been allowed to be. The U.S. either. Lots of what other people have done in the past would be called terrorism today.

What do you think?

Actually, what I really think is that the experts better handle this right, because I don't have a clue how to settle that dispute. And they better handle it right, because if there is a WWIII, I think that's where it's going to start. It won't be a war of ideals. It will be, like all wars, a political war. Get the right ingredients together (the right incentives--the pay-off for winning must be big enough, we (the West) must want something bad enough), and the world will come to Israels' defense over something that would have been handled another way if those ingredients weren't all cook-up just right. Know what I mean? I really think that some day, the West will use Israel and the Palestinians as an excuse to get what they want in that area.

It's sick, but that's politics.

I wish that Israel and the Palestinians would come to a sensible and fair agreement. I see valid points on both sides, so why can't they just compromise? Both groups are there to stay. It would be nice if the Palestinians would accept this. Maybe they would if they were guaranteed their own land. But both sides would have to agree not to take land from each other. I can dream. :-)

Joan

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[> [> [> Joan................ -- Barb, 07:58:06 08/18/07 Sat [1] (clgrtnt2-port-145.dial.telus.net/161.184.42.145)

This is politics and I am not going to get into politics about something I have very personal feelings about due to having a brother who lives in the Golan Heights, and information that is not generally well known. Please forgive me for not replying directly to your questions. I will honestly say though that of course I think the Palestinians should have the right to form their own country..and the Israelis feel the same way about that too.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Joan................ -- Joan, 04:11:38 08/19/07 Sun [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

I understand. Politics is even more volatile than religion.

You mention that you have info that's not generally well-known. Is this "inside information", or something you can share with us?

Joan

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[> [> [> [> [> Joan.................... -- Barb, 07:52:10 08/19/07 Sun [1] (clgrtnt7-port-89.dial.telus.net/161.184.52.89)

Inside information. My brother was an officer in the Israeli army before his retirement.

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