Create a New Forum Admin Login Member Login Contribute to Voyager Search VoyForums Help Desk VoyForums Exchange VoyForums Directory/Categories VoyForums Homepage VoyForums News FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions

[ Show ]

Support VoyForums

[ Shrink ]

VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, [5] ] [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 12:37:19 11/28/07 Wed Author: Doug Subject: Issues on Rules Main difference I see on rules between us, ORSCA, & Maximum Impact are wheelie bars, fiberglass body panels, and 2 front seats. These are the MAIN differences. I talked with Mike @ Maximum Impact and he did not have an issue with fiberglass doors. ORSCA does not allow fiberglass doors. I do not care one way or another. Gotta weigh 3200lbs. ORSCA requires 2 front seats, Maximum Impact does not. Again, I do not care one way or anther. I can put a seat in or pull it out. ORSCA does not allow wheelie bars, Maximum Impact does. I personally would like to use wheelie bars. It just takes one track thats a little tighter than usual or missed setup and you are on your back bumper. I haven't seen to many cars servive without damage after riding the bumper. I know it makes racing more intersting without the bars, but I am trying to keep cars in. Not get them tore up. We can vote on this at our meeting hopefully within the next couple of weeks. So how many cars for next year.? Do we have enough to make this work ? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Replies: next year -- Chad Revia, 13:37:01 11/28/07 Wed Will be ready! (NT) -- Josh, 17:22:44 11/28/07 Wed I think you should allow bars and fiberglass frontends. There are plenty of Texas cars that will play if you allow bars and fiberglass frontends. (NT) -- LS racers, 18:24:15 11/28/07 Wed On a second note, why do you think you have to cater to ORSCA rules? Lets be real here. You have to cater to your market and what it will hold, not ORSCA. If you want this thing to take off like it can, you need to cater to what you have, not what you don't have. I meet all the rules except for the fiberglass BS and the bars and I will not change my car to fit if they are not allowed. I'll race in Midland"s Pro Street class and DFW outlaws before I make those changes. (NT) -- LS racer, 18:48:28 11/28/07 Wed Two Cents -- J, 16:59:17 11/29/07 Thu then don't race (NT) -- jj, 21:48:49 11/29/07 Thu My car should be ready. Also Doug if you need any help with the class let me know. I own a chassis shop and can help with teching cars and what not to ensure eveyone confines to the rules. 972-754-3323 -- JamesB, 19:17:39 11/28/07 Wed OK..Thanks (NT) -- Doug, 19:50:52 11/28/07 Wed if i fit the rules i will be there..alot of the guys who will run this class local will not travel 3 states away to run orsca..i hope to the old tt5 limited rules in place or a close version. -- big will, 21:31:35 11/28/07 Wed My two cents on the rules, Matt and I were talking the other day and we both think that why not use the rules from the HIGH Velocity race in Houston last October it was a mix of ORSCA, TTT5 and a few other changes like fiberglass front ends etc, if you rule out some ORSCA cars what if we have a big race in the Dallas area and they cant race ? Johnny has said that if a car comes to race with ORSCA and theres a couple of small differences hes not going to turn them away from racin, hell his LS cars dont care who they race bars or not, lets not kill this class before it even gets goin, If you want to run under the KOTH flag then lets to our best to accomadate everyone... just my opinion (NT) -- David/KOTH, 21:08:07 11/29/07 Thu I thought this was a King of the hill class. I don't have a problem with bars but i do not think you should let in one piece front ends. (NT) -- John, 21:45:54 11/29/07 Thu I haven't found any L/S organization that allows front fiberglass clips. We want the class to be open as much as possible for the car count but a LIMITED class is just that. Thats the fine line we are trying to walk. Allow as many cars but have some parity to the other L/S organizations. Do you remember when KOTH was a true backhalf class? (NT) -- Doug, 22:53:35 11/29/07 Thu FIBERGLASS FRONT ENDS SHOULD NOT BE LEGAL!!!!!!!! NOBODY CAN HONESTLY TELL ME THAT HAVING FIBERGLASS FRONTENDS, AND WHEELIE BARS DONT CARY ANY ADVANTAGE OVER A FACTORY BODIED CAR! I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT IF MY CAR HAD FIBERGLASS FRONTEND, LEXAN WINDOWS, AND WHEELIE BARS, I WOULD BE RUNNING 4.8-4.7'S EVERY HIT DOWN THE TRACK! I CAN SEE ALLOWING WHEELIE BARS. THAT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL. BUT IF YOU START ALLOWING FIBERGLASS, LEXAN, ETC ETC, YOU CAN PUT THE WEIGHT IN THE REAR (WHICH MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE ON A TRUE 10 CAR). YOUR GONNA SEE THIS CLASS SPIN OUTTA CONTROL... WE HAD TO SPEND ALOT OF TIME AND MONEY TO CONVERT MY CAR TO LEGAL TRUETEN TRIM WHEN WE BOUGHT IT. WHY SHOULDN'T EVERYONE ELSE?!?!?! -- CHAD REVIA, 09:05:03 11/30/07 Fri STOCK CLASS... NO FRONT FIBERGLASS... (NT) -- DWS II (SNEED CREW), 11:32:15 11/30/07 Fri It's not "everyone else's" fault you bought a car that you had to make fit the rules. Regardless of the class you want to run I'm sure anyone would have to make a few changes...Who cares? make it all fiberglass!, meet the weight limit, and lets rock n'roll,. I also disagree that a little plastic and glass would make your car run perfect EVERY hit down the track...Come on now??! (NT) -- Allen, 17:49:21 12/12/07 Wed I found a flyer from last years High Impact Race . The rules for Outlaw Limited Street stated "Based on ORSCA rules with wheelie bar exception". (NT) -- Doug, 14:36:13 11/30/07 Fri there you go! that's the way it should read! -- Chad Revia, 15:59:26 11/30/07 Fri Rules -- T . Diaz, 13:49:40 11/30/07 Fri well the way i read the ORSCA rules is fiberglass body panels and hood, deck lid, bumper and inner fenders can be fiberglass does isnt that the same thing as a bolt together fiberglass front end ?? i may be wrong, there is a class that allows them its in California in fact they had a car at HV click h ere for the orsca body rules -- David/KOTH, 17:43:22 11/30/07 Fri I would say if the hood seperates from the fenders and front facia, its not a 1 piece front end. n/m -- JamesB, 20:55:16 11/30/07 Fri orsca suppose to be changing the weight to 3100 and 2700 for next yeat -- A. Floyd, 05:07:07 12/01/07 Sat ac tualy they are talking about a 1% tolerance in the wieghts due to the cars that are 25.2 certified up to 3200 lbs ONLY (NT) -- David/KOTH, 06:04:46 12/01/07 Sat [ Contact Forum Admin ] Forum timezone: GMT-6 VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB: Before posting please read our privacy policy. VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems. Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.