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Subject: Hey, Robin! Why don't you screenshot THIS for the judge?? Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 12:27:06 09/09/24 Mon Author Host/IP: NoHost/139.71.144.6 Your ascertion to the judge in #27 & 28 regarding the post here on 08/26 where the rumor (a word you left out) that "Robin's dates are December 27th-Jan 5th" is false. You claim that the timing "resonably suggest[s] Plaintiffs (Straub and/or his representatives) leaked Defendants' confidentially disclosed information..." Again, you are mistaken. I know that because I'm the one that posted it. In your Exhibit 4 from the 09/06/2024 filing, you show an email regarding the dates. In it your attorney states, "It has been a well-known fact to the operators of the Miss America organization for almost a year. The venue and dates were selected in October 2023...The dates are essentailly the same and were the only available dates when Ms. Fleming reserved them in October 2023." Wait...THE VENUE AND DATES WERE SELECTED IN OCTOBER 2023??? Well that's interesting - that means you either lied to ALL 51 STATE DIRECTORS back in Orlando in January when you pretended you didn't have the dates for 2025. OR you are lying through your attorney in the email in Exhibit 4 where you say you knew the dates in October 2023. So which one is it? Did you LIE to us back then or are you lying in the email in your exhibit? And to be clear, the rumors about the dates were flying around all over the place for a couple of weeks before I posted them. EDs were talking. I was waiting to see if I heard any other dates being thrown around. I didn't. So I posted what I heard - identified them as a RUMOR - which apparently were pretty accurate. And I can tell you this, I have never had so much as a single conversation in any way, shape or form with Glenn or ANYONE on his team. Ever. So maybe you should consider the idea that someone on YOUR team - past (you know, since it's been so well-known since October or 2023) or present - shared those dates outside your little circle. And while we're at it, if you really have known those dates for almost a year, how crappy is it of YOU to not share them so people could at least mark them on the calendar?? You could have said you don't have hotels confirmed, blah blah blah, but you could have at least shared the dates. Once again, how selfish of YOU. Only worried about yourself, and never how your decisions affect others. I pray the judge sees you for exactly who you are as a person and a scammer. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Oh and BTW, Exhibit 5 - that was just me quoting information in documents PUBLICLY AVAILABLE on the Clerk of Court site. The only part that was "opinion" was "Robin announced anyway." But since you did announce, is that really an opinion or actually a fact? Seems factual to me. But I'm no lawyer, so who knows. (NT) No name (NoHost/139.71.144.6) 12:35:55 09/09/24 Mon Wow! Why don't you identify yourself so you can be a witness? No way to confirm anything you type here since you are anonymous. Such anger! Reveal yourself.Nothing you say can be verified. The owner of a co is not at liberty to disclose the state of negotiations. Perhaps a range of dates were being considered. Dates don't become dates until the contract is signed and perhaps the dates given by the theater had to be coordinated with what a hotel could offer or vice versa. When an owner decides to disclose something is her choice. Does not make it a lie. Timing can vary. Identify yourself and your posts so we can verify all. (NT) No name (mail82.anonymouse.org/193.200.150.82) 12:46:39 09/09/24 Mon Ask any state ED there that day - she was throwing around potential date ideas out to the room (the idea of dates around NYE were not well received at all!). She definitely didn't say she had dates set and just wasn't announcing yet. Most of what I said can be verified by reading the court docs - that shouldn't be too tough for you. Maybe this is confusing for you, but according to her own attorney's email (Exhibit 4), the dates have been set since October 2023. So if there were a range of dates being considered in January 2024 (as you've suggested), then that makes the statement about the dates being set in October 2023 a lie. So which is it? My identity has nothing to do with information you can find for yourself (court docs) or things she said in a room full of people. (NT) -- No name, 13:03:44 09/09/24 Mon (NoHost/139.71.144.6) Burn it down! Just let the state have thier pageants Click in (NoHost/107.115.187.142) 14:29:39 09/09/24 Mon DONT BUY A PLANE TICKET, RESERVE A HOTEL ROOM, BOOK A SHOW SEAT-NOTHING. Robin's lies are all catching up to her and the judge is going to take her down. (NT) -- No name, 17:17:37 09/09/24 Mon (NoHost/50.118.196.195) This is so so messy. I wish the judge would speed this up and make a ruling. It’s so bad for the entire organization. (NT) No name (NoHost/172.56.71.142) 19:16:16 09/09/24 Mon I doubt the judge is concerned about the optics (NT) -- No name, 21:45:06 09/09/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Anyone can claim to be the original poster of the information you cite. Just like anyone can create a fake operating agreement and back date it, waive it around and you lemmings will follow him off the cliff. Seriously are you all so gullible. Clearly this poster has never negotiated anything with multiple properties or you owuld know how it is done. Dates looked at or held or booked. Nothing is final until the contract is signed and no owner of a for profit company is obliged to let you in on every detail. This is not a quilting bee. And for the record no one cares what is said on an anonymous message board but please know this is not anonymous even if you use a VPN. Just saying. (NT) No name (pool-96-242-88-28.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net/96.242.88.28) 12:51:45 09/10/24 Tue No one cares...but HERE YOU ARE!! And I am referencing Robin's own claims in HER documents filed with the court. Her argument is that the dates have been set since October 2023 - not "looked at". Not "held". Which by the way, no venue would "hold" dates on a pinky promise. If, as she says, the dates have been booked since October 2023 (HER claim, not mine) then that would mean she had committed. So then why not make sure the states knew that as soon as possible? Even if she waited until after January's competition, it would have given states additional information to plan. "Her" (as she claims) FOR PROFIT company is being funded on the backs of VOLUNTEERS and NON-PROFIT state programs! So yes, she DOES owe us answers and details. And since you're so smart, all you have to do is look at the vpn to see that if I said I was the OP, then I am. (NT) -- No name, 13:11:21 09/10/24 Tue (NoHost/139.71.144.5) Take a breath. You are really invested in your hatred against Robin. What happened to you? Smeone claim you are incompetent and it was proven and now you are no longer a director? Did you fail to perform your own fiduciary responsibility and now are trying to blame someone else for that? Did you abscond with production funds, get caught and now trying to deflect? So many options but your postings here are so over the top that makes people wonder why. (NT) -- No name, 14:20:56 09/10/24 Tue (pool-96-242-88-28.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net/96.242.88.28) Wait...it's like you're in my head! Yes! YES!! It's not just one of those things - it's ALL of them! And then some more! I'm mad that I can't have a giant name badge like the one you wore during your ED calls. Or that I can't have a SUPER giant one like you wore when the hearings began back in July. And I'm also sad and angry that I won't be invited to your birthday party either. And of course, I'm really sad that J Lo just can't seem to get it right when it comes to marriage - I blame Robin, so obviously that plays a big part in why I don't like you. OR it could be because I along with SO many other people see through your unabashed bullshit, Robin! We see you!! We see you for EXACTLY WHO and WHAT you are. And it's gross. (NT) -- No name, 15:12:50 09/10/24 Tue (NoHost/139.71.144.4) Ha ha ha ha (NT) -- This cracking me up, 12:07:36 09/11/24 Wed (NoHost/107.115.187.142) If I felt the way you do, I would walk away from the program, rather than allow her to benefit on my back as a volunteer. Just sayin'. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to do this. (NT) -- No name, 17:51:16 09/11/24 Wed (NoHost/148.59.75.51)