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Subject: Re: “You call that a spanking” … annoying witnesses


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Ivy
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Date Posted: 09:47:47 05/31/24 Fri
In reply to: Grumpy 's message, "“You call that a spanking” … annoying witnesses" on 10:47:17 05/30/24 Thu

What is it with aunts and spanking? My mother is Russian Jewish and father Irish Catholic. Spanking is not big in Jewish culture, but with Dad's influence we did get spanked a little when young. However, after a five year gap I started getting them again at age thirteen. This was largely a result of harping by my father's pro-spanking sister combined with Mom's concern about my lack of Jewishness.

I was always a well behaved kid and good student. But around thirteen some of that natural adolescent sassiness started to break out. This is normal, but normal was never good enough for my parents, particularly mom. But what really concerned mom was that she thought I was slacking on my bat mitzvah studies.

My aunt was constantly recommending they resume spanking, if they wanted a daughter as well-behaved as my cousin supposedly was. My aunt was never present when I was spanked. But she would tell Mom and Dad in my presence how I should get older kid spankings (bare butt with a hairbrush). And after she started Mom would sometimes report the spankings to my Aunt, and the pleasure on her face was palpable.

Ivy

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Intrigued to Ivy
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Date Posted: 10:23:49 05/31/24 Fri

The detail about you slacking on your bat mitzvah studies is new to us. Is that group of kids you fell in with who were also getting spanked -- were they likewise working on those studies?

How did your mom describe to your aunt those big girl spankings you were now getting (that made her look pleased)?

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Ivy
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Date Posted: 12:02:29 05/31/24 Fri

I did mention the bat mitzvah before. It is a big deal, and what mom considered my lackadaisical attitude toward it did greatly concern her.

Of that group there were three other girls, none Jewish. There were about eight boys, a couple were Jewish.

On the other, I remember my aunt came over a short time after having gotten one. I was not acting like my regular self and she asked what was the matter with "Miss Priss." Mom told her I had just gotten a spanking and if my attitude did not "improve pronto" I'd be getting another. I am sure my beaming Aunt was hopeful.

Ivy

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Ross
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Date Posted: 19:08:08 05/31/24 Fri

It sounds like your aunt was pretty mean to hope you would get another spanking. The hope of spanking is that it improves your behavior, not that it's just the warmup for another one. How is your relationship with your aunt today? I hope you've been able to mend any fences.

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Ivy
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Date Posted: 23:03:42 05/31/24 Fri

She thought she was being helpful, and probably had a bit of "spanko" in her as well. Can't fault her for either. I get along great with her (and Mom) -- that was ten years ago. Besides I now believe that period of discipline did me some good.

Ivy

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Ross
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Date Posted: 07:53:21 06/01/24 Sat

I went through a period of hard rebellion in my early teens when I had not been spanked for a few years. I was hanging around with the wrong kind of kids. A few parental spankings steered me through that time without any long term harm. Though I hated and resented it at the time, years later, I had a better appreciation for the discipline imposed on me because my parents truly cared. I'm not sure how I would have handled it if anyone was enjoying my punishments, but it's good to see that didn't diminish the benefit of your spankings for you.

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Alfred22
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Date Posted: 12:44:18 05/31/24 Fri

Spanking is an uncomfortable topic for most adults. I think they are often more interested in it than kids are. One obvious reason is that adults are not afraid that somehow the conversation will lead to more frequent or harder spankings for them!

I was quite worried all through early elementary school that my mother would upgrade me to hairbrush spankings. She was friends with Dick K's mother and often she would mention to me that Dick got his spankings with the hairbrush!

What was your upgrade from at 13? Was it indeed the result of your aunt's suggestions?

If I had known you then, I would have suggested that you investigate whether your aunt's daughter really was as virtuous as her mother claimed. I knew very few kids who were spanked who were well-behaved! If anything, spanked kids were naughtier. They were definitely sneakier!

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Ivy
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Date Posted: 23:17:35 05/31/24 Fri

I got a few hand spankings until I was eight. As I said the spankings resumed at 13. My aunt recommended the hairbrush, but spanking with a hairbrush is not a big secret. I think you are right about my cousin.I honestly think the unspanked me was better behaved (and a much better student) than my cousin!

Ivy

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Alfred22
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Date Posted: 08:35:43 06/01/24 Sat

Good point about hairbrush spankings being no secret. I do think that their effect and potency for behavior modification are rather underrated. Due to her weak back muscles my mother would never have abandoned her yardstick for an implement so closely linked to otk and other close range positions.

Reflecting on this, I doubt that I was ever in any danger of praise for the influence of some spanking mom's hairbrush causing her to retire her yardstick.

What she might well have done is change to a switch. She cut one once when we were working together on the shrubs. I inquired as to whether I was in trouble. She said no, I want it "just in case." I wondered but did not ask "in case of what?"

I did immediately toss the unpeeled switch which had been stored on top of the ice box. I was so nervous doing this that it landed in plain view but was left to turn brown for weeks!

Clearly Ivy's mother represents the Jewish mainstream view on spanking: reluctantly useful as a last resort only. Her aunt seems a bit too eager and willing to spank. Perhaps she has mellowed.

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