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Subject: Re: More Painful and Less Embarrassing, or More Embarrassing and Less Painful?


Author:
Rebecca
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Date Posted: 16:33:37 06/29/24 Sat
In reply to: Ross 's message, "Re: More Painful and Less Embarrassing, or More Embarrassing and Less Painful?" on 15:50:19 06/16/24 Sun

I don’t think spanking us in any way was actually necessary to teach us a lesson, but the adults believed it had to be done and my aunt and uncle were not afraid to make embarrassment part of the punishment. It’s true that I have this shameful memory for the rest of my life, but I do believe I got off easy with my spanking being by hand despite having my naked lower half exposed.

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Pamela Jane to Rebecca
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Date Posted: 11:05:12 07/01/24 Mon

Hi Rebecca,
Was there any specific incident that left you emberrassed and ashamed or was it just the fact that you were spanked bare bottomed. Did your uncle also spank? I would imagine it being more embarrassing getting it from him.

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Rebecca
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Date Posted: 12:24:01 07/01/24 Mon

I never actually got spanked by my aunt or uncle. Threatened on multiple occasions, but the only person who ever spanked me was my father. I expect he would have allowed them to in loco parentis but it never happened. It’s another reason Noah got such an awful punishment. Not only did he get a spanking, bare bottom, in front of his cousins including 3 girls (4 counting myself)… the humiliation was inflicted by his aunt, who was able to spank him well past the point of tears with just her open hand. My uncle spanked Keith. I got spanked by my dad.

In that instance it was so shameful that I was going to be punished this way in front of my cousins, especially my cousin Jacob. At 11 a girl is very modest. I certainly was. I had witnessed Jacob get a bare bottom spanking just a few months prior over winter vacation and I had cruelly poked fun at him afterward. There was definitely karma involved in this. Honestly if he was the only kid in the room watching it would have been 95% as bad as it was. We were very close, but we were rivals in a way and him being less than a year older than me made his presence for my spanking so embarrassing. But he didn’t tease me at all. He actually made sure to come hug me the next day. To be honest the way he treated me when I was at his mercy made me the most ashamed of all because of how I made fun of him after he’d already been exposed and spanked in front of me.

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Chastity (for Rebecca)
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Date Posted: 13:17:37 07/01/24 Mon

I am not a parent, but as a child/teenager I was spanked, and I am really not against it --but what you went through is inexcusable. To start off, this spanking orgy was out of proportion to the misbehavior. But in all spankings children are entitled to a modicum of privacy.

Spankings are embarrassing enough without inflicting additional embarrassment. At age eleven I thought of myself as quite grownup. Getting a spanking popped that bubble real fast --which, in hindsight was not a bad use of the embarrassment factor. Unlike this situation!!!!

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Rebecca
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Date Posted: 13:34:25 07/01/24 Mon

I have one word for you and it is so ironic coming from someone who is the alleged victim here and someone who is decidedly against spanking any children for any reason:

Why?

Why was this inexcusable? I would agree in hindsight it was disproportionate. I agree children are entitled to privacy. But you are someone who isn’t even against spanking. What was so awful about this? It was very embarrassing in the moment but I got over it in days. Let’s say I was belted instead, to the point of howling in pain leaving welts on my bottom. I’m not exactly upset that I was given a handspanking even though my cousins all saw me naked from the waist down.

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Chastity (for Rebecca)
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Date Posted: 14:05:30 07/01/24 Mon

I did not realize you were using this story to condemn ALL spanking. It is a good example of the false dilemma fallacy.

I was sympathetic to what I believed was a nightmare which has haunted you for years. So sorry.

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Rebecca
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Date Posted: 14:11:42 07/01/24 Mon

It was nightmarish in the moment and for a couple days afterward. That being said, I am not condemning all spanking by using this story. My negative stance on kid spanking developed separately, years later. But I notice you dodged my question and focused on that stance I have, which I only brought up to point out the irony.

Why exactly did this spanking cross the line? What was so bad about it in comparison to the very painful but private punishment my older cousins experienced?

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Chastity (for Rebecca)
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Date Posted: 14:25:29 07/01/24 Mon

To quote you: "It’s true that I have this shameful memory for the rest of my life" I don't have any shameful memories from my childhood discipline. I wonder if the harsh spanking the cousins got in private haunts them the same way, I doubt it.

I am not going to argue anymore. I was sympathetic to what you went through. I am sorry if I misinterpreted.

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Pamela Jane to Rebecca
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Date Posted: 12:54:42 07/01/24 Mon

I went back and read your post. OMG had I been in your situation with aunt, uncle, cousins and especially BOYS I would have just DIED!!!! I can only imagine the shame and embarrassment after my experience. My uncle was watching me getting it and when I looked over and saw him peering through the open door I was absolutely horrified. Dad was laying that leather to my naked backside and I too was blubbering like a 5-year-old. I was just like your cousin Jacob at the point of complete breakdown, that strap was burning so bad. I'm glad Jacob didn't tease you and hugged you instead. I'm sure he wouldnt tease especially after suffering the shame he did. That feeling of embarrassment and shame is awful and it lasts and lasts too.

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Rebecca
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Date Posted: 13:39:48 07/01/24 Mon

It was extremely embarrassing in the moment, and the butterflies in my stomach were immense watching Keith take his punishment knowing I was next. Admittedly I was being playful when I made fun of Jacob but it was cruel of me and if he had teased me after seeing me in the same shoes I would have had it coming. But he felt no need to rub it in. I awkwardly apologized to him about it years later and at that point even he acknowledged the karma I faced.

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Pamela Jane to Rebecca
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Date Posted: 14:12:54 07/01/24 Mon

My uncle has also apologized for spying on me. I'm still embarrassed and ashamed and I haven't had to see him since. The apology helps some. He realizes that he really screwed up by coming up the stairs. He knew that I was getting punished and that was embarrassing enough.
I guess in your case that was karma. Do you and Jacob talk now.

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