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Subject: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


Author:
Bob
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Date Posted: 15:34:24 10/30/24 Wed

Please consider the following hypothetical situation. You have a 16 year old daughter who is dating a 17 year old boy. Both kids go to the same public high school. You have reason to believe that your daughter Cindy is using Pot and, maybe, Bob is using Pot also. Both kids deny using Pot. You speak to Bob's parents about the situation and they inform you that they do not believe that he is using Pot but he has not been drug tested. Your best guess is there is a 40% chance Cindy is using Pot and a 30% chance Bob is using Pot. Pot is illegal inn the state you live in.

You inform your daughter about the situation and what you believe. You also tell your daughter to take a drug test. You also want Bob to take the same drug test. Cindy says that she will not take the drug test unless Bob agrees to it also. Bob is not willing to take the drug test unless you pay him a significant amount of money. He says that he is not on drugs and does not want to take the test because the test maybe wrong.

Cindy has not had any parental punishments in the last 3 years. About 3 years ago, Cindy was given a hard spanking for missing curfew and since that time, she has not missed curfew. That is, the spanking worked.

What should the parents of Cindy do?

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[> Subject: Re: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


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Gary Steven
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Date Posted: 19:00:36 10/30/24 Wed

Here is the question. Why do you think Cindy is using pot? Have you seen or smelled the evidence of it? Before you accuse her of anything, you should have some proof. Expecting her to be drug tested, is a huge invasion of privacy and something when found to be positive can get her arrested. But if she is innocent, it would destroy any trust that previously existed between the two of you. Sure as the parent, you can demand she take a drug test, but are you willing to destroy your relationship with her. As far as the boyfriend goes, you can't do anything other than forbid her to see him. You can't make him take a drug test either. He isn't your kid. Although, the fact he is willing to be tested if you pay for it, should be telling you he isn't doing drugs either.

This scenario is a little far fetched.

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[> Subject: Re: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


Author:
Sonya (My own experience)
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Date Posted: 00:06:12 10/31/24 Thu

Hon, I really don't know how to answer this question except maybe to say I agree with Gary Steven on this. I think trying to force the kids to take drug tests would be a big mistake.

Now this question reminded me of something that happened to me when I was nineteen. Ramona and I were bored on a Saturday night because our boyfriends were working. So some friends of ours were having a little field party. So we decided we'd go. We were good girls (for a while) but as the evening wore on, we gave into the temptation and had some beer. No body was checking ID's so, it was not a problem. Well soon we had a little too much and we were wanting to go home. But neither one of us was in any shape to drive. I locked up the car and we started walking. We walked to nearby gas station that had a pay phone and I called my boyfriend Mark. He was off work by then and had gotten home but was still awake. I asked him if he could come pick us up. I told him where we were and I was too messed up to drive. He told me he'd be right there and to just stay where we are. While we were waiting, some blue lights started flashing. It was a Deputy named Brent. He knew us and our families from church. He stepped out of the car and asked if there was a problem and I told him, we were ok, but we were at a party and in no shape to drive. Then told him my boyfriend just got off work and was on his way to pick us up. He just smiled at us and said, "Ok girls, but I'm gonna stay here with you to make sure you're ok till he gets here." Soon, Mark pulled up and asked if everything was ok. Brent, just said, "I saw them here and thought I'd stick around to make sure they were ok till you got here." They both helped us get in the car. We stopped at Ramona's house and got her inside. Her dad was laughing too hard at her to be mad. Mark helped me back in the car and I was almost out by then and he took me home. He helped me get up to the porch and I tried to open the door but couldn't so he helped me inside. Daddy woke up and saw us. I heard Mark and Daddy talking but I couldn't make out what they were saying. Then I heard Momma's voice. I was thinking I was in a lot of trouble when she came in the bedroom with Daddy and Mark. I felt Mark kiss me on the head and tell me he loved me. I heard Momma and Daddy talking and then I felt Momma taking off my sandals and pants. I started crying and apologizing, I was thinking I was about to get a spanking. But she and Daddy were both talking to me really calm trying to get me to calm down and go to sleep. Within moments, I passed out.

The next thing I remember, there was a soft knock at my bedroom door and I heard Daddy's deep voice, "Sonya, are you awake?" I saw it was light outside and then looked at my clock and saw it was after Noon already. It suddenly hit me, I was late for church and I started to panic. Then it hit me, I was having my very first hangover. I never felt so sick in all my life. My head was pounding and I felt like I was about to throw up. Daddy was talking to me softly asking me if I needed anything. All I could say is I was going to throw up, so he helped me get up and into the bathroom. I barely made it. He pulled my hair back and stood beside me with his hand on my forehead while I vomited. I started bawling. Apologizing to him over and over again. He just held me tight and said, "it's ok baby girl." I stood there crying as he put my hair up in a pony tail. I asked him why he did that and he said "Just in case you get sick again." As soon as he said that, I was bent back over and throwing up again. After a third time, he got a cool washcloth and wiped my forehead down and my face. Then walked me back to the bedroom. He helped me back into bed and sat with me rubbing my arm. I was still crying and finally asked him, "Daddy are you gonna spank me?" He just chuckled and said, "No baby girl, I think you've already been punished enough." Then I remembered Ramona. I asked him if she was ok, and he told me that Mark and I took her home before I came home. He told me to stay in bed and relax and he was going to bring me something that would settle my stomach and something for my headache. He came back with something to drink and some Tylenol. He had me sit up and sip the stuff he brought slowly. It was gross. But he said it would make me feel better and he was right. Then he had me take some Tylenol for my headache. I asked him if Momma was mad and he told me no and that she decided that he should stay home from Church and help me which she, my brother and sister went to service. He also talked about Mark and about what a good boy he is and bragged on him for helping to take care of me. Not long after, I heard Momma and my sibs come in. She came to my room to check on me. I told her I was feeling a little better. She asked if I felt like eating anything and I told her maybe a little. I asked her if she was mad at me and she kissed me on the head and said, "Baby, I'm not mad at you. I was surprised, but not mad. Then she got a little more serious, and told me, If you had tried to drive home, last night, I would have been very angry with you." She kissed me on the head again, and said, "Your Daddy and I will probably be discussing this more with you later, when you feel a little better." Daddy just smiled and gave me a little wink.

Mark called on me a little later and I called Ramona to see how she was feeling. She had a rough morning too. My parents did have a discussion that evening, but it wasn't bad. I promised them, I would never do anything like that again. Daddy got really stern sounding for a moment and said, "If you do, I'm gonna blister your butt." Then he smiled and gave me another wink. That was my first and last time I ever got drunk.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


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Gary Steven (to Sonya)
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Date Posted: 22:34:55 10/31/24 Thu

Sonya, I for one find your posts to be a breath of fresh air. What you write comes across as honest, to the point and heart felt. I've really enjoyed reading what you have posted here and on a couple of other Forums. I do not find you to be boring in the least.

Looking forward to more.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


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Bob
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Date Posted: 20:05:35 11/01/24 Fri

Sonya,

What happens if Cindy decides to stay out all night with Bob. Is that okay? If you tell me it is not and she does it anyway, should she be punished for it?

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


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Sonya (to Bob)
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Date Posted: 06:55:04 11/10/24 Sun

Now Bob, that is a different story. If Cindy was my daughter and she was underage and decided she was going to stay out all night with him or anybody for that matter after being told they couldn't do it. You bet she WOULD be punished for it. I'd take my hairbrush, put her over my knee and blister her bare bottom good. Plus, I imagine she'd probably get it good from her Daddy as well, then be grounded for a good long time to think about her decisions.

If she were an adult, even if she was still living with me, I couldn't really tell her no. After all she's an adult, but there would definitely be a serious discussion when she got home.

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[> Subject: Re: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


Author:
Dana
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Date Posted: 15:24:37 10/31/24 Thu

How refreshing to read an account where nurturing and kindness is the right medicine, and the idea is to learn from your mistakes. Just friends and family helping you through a tough time. In 99.9% of stories on these forums, you would have been beaten. Disappointing for sadists, cuz they enjoy adding more suffering to your suffering.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


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Sonya
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Date Posted: 20:46:20 10/31/24 Thu

Sweetie, my parents were strict but they weren't cruel. I got plenty of spankings but that's exactly what they were, spankings. My parents didn't beat me by any stretch of the imagination. They also love with every fiber of their being. I actually expected them to handle things differently when I came home drunk. I was legally an adult but by law too young to drink. While they were shocked and a little disappointed that I did go out and get drunk, they were relieved that I didn't try to drive home and I regretted the decision. Believe me when I tell you, I would have rather endured one of the severe spankings that people like to talk about on these forums than to EVER have another hangover like I had. I was sick as a dog., and truthfully I'd rather take a beating then to ever have to drink that stuff Daddy gave me. It helped my stomach, but it was GROSS. It smelled awful and tasted worse. Sure they did have a serious discussion with me later, after I'd had time to recover. But they talked to me like an adult instead of treating me like a kid.

My Momma and Daddy have always been there for me and I love them with all my heart.

I guess by the standards of some who post on forums like this, I'm probably boring. I don't tell stories about me getting beatings every day and naked corner times and even worse. Nor do I tell the same kind of wild tales about my kids.

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[> Subject: Re: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


Author:
Sarah
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Date Posted: 11:27:12 11/01/24 Fri

I would not force her to take a drug test nor would I forbid her to take a drug test . I would probably ground her from
The boy but not permanently I would talk to her and the boys parents find out more information before deciding on whether other punishment like a grounding or spanking is needed . I like having the most information before acting .

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[> [> Subject: Re: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


Author:
Bob
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Date Posted: 19:54:13 11/01/24 Fri

Sarah,

The only reason I could see to punish Cindy would be to force her to take the drug test. You said you would not force her to take the drug test. So, why would you consider punishing Cindy? I do not understand.

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[> Subject: Re: Cindy and Bob and drug testing


Author:
Bob
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Date Posted: 20:01:58 11/01/24 Fri

Here is what I think. Cindy's parents do not have the right to drug test Bob. However, Cindy's parents do have the right to drug test Cindy. So, assuming it was okay with Bob and his parents, I would pay Bob a reasonable amount of money so that both him and Cindy would take the drug test.

If that was not an option, I would insist on Cindy taking the drug test. Here is my reasoning. I am the parent and Cindy is the child. If I decide that Cindy needs to see a doctor, I want her to go I do not want her to have the option of not going.

If I let Cindy not take the drug test, suppose she decides she wants to drop out of school. Is that okay? Suppose she says she wants to stay out all night with Bob. Is that okay?

Once Cindy is 18, it will be up to her. Util that time, I expect her to do as she is told and if necessary enforce it with punishment. It would be better if she would take the drug test voluntarily and that is why I would be willing to pay Bob a reasonable amount of money for him to take the drug test also.

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