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Subject: Re: Pleased parents and Disciplined Children

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Cath to Kristina (Happy and Excited)

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Date Posted: 21:00:11 01/29/24 Mon
In reply to: Kristina 's message, "Re: Sunday Morning Soaping" on 15:23:22 01/29/24 Mon

Dear Kristina,

You note that some comments I made are welcome, "Because you are a married couple, and we should show Christians have healthy loving and steamy relationships too." I very much agree with that. Healthy, loving and steamy relationships among loving parents leads to equally loving relationships with their children. The the use of satisfying physical discipline, which includes nudity, teasing, and frequent spankings to continually advance the emotional and physical and spiritual growth of the children, is one of the positive products of loving parents who frequently discipline loving children. Real Christians are physical and emotional and spiritual people.

You note, very correctly, (and I will paraphrase your words here, but while expressing the same thought), that in marriages that keep the flame alive, that keep the sexual love and companionship of the parents alive and growing, a big contributor to that alive and growing sexual awareness and presence in the relationship is the fact that spankings are in use either in a DD context or, even more importantly, with their children. I have certainly found this to be true with many families I have known closely, and it is certainly true of the relationship I share with my husband AND in the close and loving relationship we share with our children.

We, Tom and I, do not dread or shy away from our duty to help the continued emotional and physical development of our children by the use of frequent corporal punishment and other disciplines viewed as strict by many. We embrace the need for strict discipline along with lots of--tons of--love and our children respond accordingly.

You say that, like us, you are proud of how well our children are adjusting to all this (for example, the mouth soaping's and the new use of the Lexan paddle), and you suggest we take them for some ice cream or a special dinner or something they enjoy as a reward. Tonight, Tom and I took the three children to the Olive Garden for a nice dinner and we told them this was a treat for them suggested by the lovely lady, Kristina, who suggested we should try mouth soaping them now and again, and they were thankful and confused at the same time. (Shouldn't they HATE that nice lady--but, still, this dinner was a very nice treat!--LOL)

You also suggest we make sure we verbally praise them oh so much for taking their discipline so well--but, indeed we have been doing that for years and years, and have continued to do it since they were toddlers being spanked with my wooden spoon.
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Your comments were also interesting on "Regression Behavioral
>Therapy". Using the tone of voice and "little boy or girl" language" when discipling them that one would typically use with much younger children is something also that we have been doing for years. To Annie, for example, a 15 year old girl while paddling her: "Awww, Poor Baby, is your poor tender bum starting to really sting good now? Is this sit-spot [rubbing it] starting to really sting like crazy, Little Baby Girl?" And, for example, during a pause which, already crying hard, she needs to get her breath back and quiet down: : "I know, Baby Girl, that you think you have had enough--but Mummy wants to give you more spanking, Honey, and Daddy wants his little girl to sing really hard for him for a while longer."

Now, we do tend to avoid some other things you mention, like making them hold our hands when they are out somewhere with us, or openly giving them more supervision to make them feel younger or childish. We don't do the first because we don't want to share with others that our children are given, or need, that kind of "babyish" supervision. It puts other people off. "Did you see that? That girl must be at least 14 or 15 and her mother has to hold her hand crossing the street, or walking through that store. What's up with that?"

That is not good. We don't feel that helps us or the child who needs to assert in public their steady growth toward independent, self-sufficient adulthood. And they need the respect that goes with that. So, that apparently is another small area of disagreement that we have with one of your approach, Kristina--but disagreements like that should always be viewed with mutual respect for others who just have differing views in some areas.

You ask, "Are they getting up easier now that they know if they don't there will be paddling? Again, we are long past that point. I've been taking my hairbrush along at morning wake-up time for years. Baring a bottom in the morning for a hard 20 whacks with my hairbrush to get one or the other "rolling" on a given day is something they are very used to.

I'm glad you liked my "winded horse" analogy to describe the gagging and wheezing and heavy breathing that was accompanying the mouth soaping Sunday morning. They were making heart-rending sounds along with their gyrations, but as I hinted, Tom and I both found these physical and vocal exertions of our three naked children to be, well, I suppose we could say, stimulating, especially when combined with the Lexan paddling of all three before they danced off to their own bedroom. It was a mild form of hell for them but quite entertaining and exciting for us the parents--and, yes, Kristina, looking at them with their mouths full of soap and waiting naked for their paddling's, they really did look adorable, and, as you put it, "But it does not need to be said how certain sounds are intriguing to a man like Tom--lol--poor guy".

You note that, "I like that you are now paddling as you swat, I bet that paddle is almost always in your hand lol do u
>happen to have a photo of it maybe u could upload one
>someplace or just link to it on the spot you bought it?"
(We bought the 34.95 one on the Master Controls Woodshop site, Lexan paddles. I tried to copy and drop a picture in here but it didn't work???}

You ask "how do u like the lexan, were u smacking pretty hard, like skin flattening and buns bouncing?"
We really love the Lexan. Actually, you don't have to spank very hard at all with the Lexan because I find it really does sting and burn when it lands from even a medium hard stroke. So I like to spank like that, and give pauses, and make the spanking last, although I do like to finish a turn after a last break with a somewhat harder 12 to 20 whacks which really has the boy or girl bouncing up and down on my lap or on the bed or couch, kicking and screaming. But later, redness, yes, tenderness, yes, but not purple marks or bruises or other lasting blemishes.
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You say, "Standing out of the way, what a great idea, and doing these soapings as a family, wow what a great way to
have the kids and you bond together, even when its just mommy and them its great too."
Absolutely right. And the kids seem to get that this is a really maddening little ritual they have to go through, and I think it does help that all of them have to go through it together. And again they see my face and demeanor, and Tom's when he was there Sunday AM, and they can see--no hiding it-- that we like doing this soaping on them!

Later in the day, when Annie was helping me put away some washed dishes, I said to her, "So that was quite a soaping you kids got this morning, wasn't it? And she was standing next to me and she put her arm around my waist (she's only a little shorter than me) and she looked me in the eye grinning, and she said, "You loved doing that to us, didn't you, you wicked woman!"

And then she laughed and she said, "Honest, Mom, I thought I would wet myself this morning watching you soap Jimmy and Debbie, even though I was getting it next myself. The way they squirmed around and the noises they made, and seeing you smack their bottoms with their faces all screwed up from the taste of that awful soap. I know it's naughty of me," and she put one hand down between her legs and she said, "but it made me really really hot down here to see you do that. But you know what? That helped me to take my soaping, I know it did!"

So I saw once again that unintended, involuntary but natural reactions on the part of the children or the parents are always part of the discipline process, and this is something parents should be aware of and accepting of. The kids are not being "bad" when they have reactions like that. Those are just natural reactions, part of the whole process.

You asked, "Are your kids like mine rolling eyes and eeeeeew when you are all kissy and affectionate with tom lol its
all teasingly of course, not spank worthy teasing lol."
Again, you are so right. When we are seen hugging and kissing each other, the kids do the exaggerated eye-rolling ALWAYS! And they do needle us--as you say, teasing but not really bad and not spank-worthy.

I walked into the living room the other day during one of the football games and I was just out of the shower in a robe and slippers. He was in his big chair with all the kids sitting around on the floor watching the game, and Jimmy fractured us all when I lay down on top of Tom to hug him and Jimmy said, "Good Lord, Lady! Rent a room!" I don't know who laughed harder but we were all in stitches.

You ask, "What were their reactions seeing you kiss and giggle like teenagers watching them spit and such in the tub?"
That's a good description of what we were doing, but they were faced the other way and too focused on spitting and the awful taste in their mouths to pay much attention to us.

You say "I am glad you and Tom got some loving time in" [we did and it was really wonderful on Sunday morning after their soaping], and you ask "how was church btw? did anyone at the church get brought out and brought back rubbing bottoms?"
No spanking room at our church, and the meeting house next door (two floors) is too public for use as a spanking forum.
Church was fine. Jimmy couldn't wait until services were over to go downstairs next door and moon and sigh over Annette, the pastor's wife during the week's one hour religious lesson. All three sat through services on their freshly paddled bottoms and with exceptionally clean mouths.

You ask, "Oh and what do >u think of the suggestion to spank before service or >like u did this time, a paddling or spanking before leaving each Sunday for service?"
The got that and then some when we soaped their mouths that morning and gave all three a Lexan paddling.

And you say, "I also think , inviting the ladies who gave him his special session, or one of them at least over now and
then to "visit" with Jimmie in front of the family, could be beneficial for all."
That was Annette, the Pastor's wife who spanked him at their home, and his eldest daughter was there to help--but she didn't spank him, just undressed him and helped him dress afterwards. We will probably have the pastor and his wife to dinner very soon, and it would now surprise me if I decided to have Annette, the pastor's wife spank Jimmy after that dinner. Jimmy is wildly in love with her.
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>But how were the games? LOL The first on WONDERFUL, the second one good. On to the Super Bowl! Cath

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Re: Pleased parents and Disciplined Children	Kristina (smiling)	21:29:26 01/29/24 Mon