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Let's list all Michael Butlers businesses: Hair and makeup, photography, don't forget coaching with or without Shane, also designed clothes, not to mention "running or should I say owning" pageants from behind the scene! This came from S & M OWN mouth. I am a former client they assured me my kid would win if I went because someone was having the pageant for them. YOu know it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out besides Butler who is always on here bashing..let's see, have daughters always beat by Hannah.... (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:53:21 09/07/02 Sat
MOST ALL THE PROBLEMS IN PAGEANTS HAVE BEEN CREATED BY THESE FOUR 'GUYS'. Now what we have here are 4 men who have egos bigger than well......anyway, lol, they think they are something. They are haughty and arrogrant if anyone dares to try to make waves in their all consuming businesses. If these guys are all tied up with the FF and MDD pageant systems, THE BEST THING TO DO IS NOT SUPPORT EITHER ONE OF THEM. We all know that t/m's suck ups will be at theirs and those that Butler control will be at MDD, now why would any other dumb smuck want to go and pay for their kids and clients to win. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:08:31 09/07/02 Sat
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Re: I HAVE TO AGREE ON ALOT OF THAT. DH AND JM ARE NOT AT ALL PRETTY AND YET THEY HAVE MANAGED TO WIN BIG GRANDS AT THE PAGEANTS T/M HAVE IN THEIR POCKETS. HANNA D LOOKS GOOD ON STAGE AFTER ALL THE THICK PANCAKE MAKEUP FAKE LASHES AND PAINTES ON FEATURES BUT CLOSE UP WITHOUT ALL THE MAKEUP THE CHILD IS DOWNRIGHT HOMELY. I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT BUT ITS TRUE. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:20:51 09/07/02 Sat
This is the way it is. These kids that are up the rears of T/M can't win any other way. Also, they ONLY win at pageants where the gurus control. They go back to the same ones every year and get their wins. NONE of their business partners clients can venture to any other pageant and do any good. Few of their clients can go elsewhere and win either. imho (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:29:29 09/07/02 Sat

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ALOT OF KIDS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE DRAG QUEENS WHO HAVE MAMAS WHO ARE WILLING TO SUCK GURU BUTT TO GET THEM SHABBY WINS THAT NOONE RESPECTS. LOL (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:16:51 09/07/02 Sat
Re: I thought they wanted more natural looks for this pageant? (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:43:10 09/07/02 Sat
They tell you that but it is BULLSHIT. All the winners are big pros faked up just like they are at GD. WHAT about the fact they judge their own pageant don't you understand? It is all about their clients and ALL their clients are made up heavy and have all the fake hair, etc. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:14:54 09/07/02 Sat
Re: Can anyone please make real predictions on this pageant and not just vent against T/M! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:24:10 09/07/02 Sat
IF THEY WERE NOT SUCH JERKS, IT WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. HERE IS A PREDICTION FOR YOU....ALL THE WINNERS WILL BE THEIR BUSINESS PARTNERS KIDS, BEST FRIENDS KIDS, CLIENTS KIDS AND THE PEOPLE HAVE MONEY THAT THEY WANT TO BE THEIR CLIENTS WILL ALLLLLLL WIN. IT IS ALWAYS THAT WAY. THEY JUDGE THEIR OWN PAGEANT, THAT SAYS IT ALL. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:25:40 09/07/02 Sat

Subject: Mystical Dreams vs. FF

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Has anybody bothered to call Toni O. yet and tell her what she's getting herself into with this MD director? The director got Toni hook, line&sinker by giving Toni's kid a grand supreme in one of her many photo contests to ensure that Toni would come...also gave grand supreme entries to some of Toni's other kids, including CF to make sure the kid didn't even go back and crown at FF and came to her pageant instead. The woman has a ran a heavy line of crock by Toni telling Toni she already has 30 paid entries in her hand and that is she is giving the money no matter what and Toni has fallen for it......has anybody bothered to tell Toni how involved Michael Butler is in this thing and that once Linda gets Toni and her kids there and she gets their money, they are ALL getting screwed???

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Well, people WARNED THO about getting involved with FF last year and their her kid and her favorties clients got screwed. She did not listen about T and M, even tho she KNEW what they were capable of. I doubt she will listen about this either. FF is far more political because t/m control more judges and people than BUTLER, imo. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:10:46 09/07/02 Sat
At least the winners Toni did have at FF last year GOT their $. No way will this lady pay this $. Her entire pageant was planned with Michael Butler to hurt FF. She has given every single one of Toni's major clients a free entry to this pageant, and many more free entries as well, and claiming she has 30 paid entries in hand. I just hate to see all these kids get screwed. The woman will never be able to pay her money. Would love to see some initials of these supposed 30 "paid" entries she has! (NT) --
Subject: On a post below, a poster tells about the fall business that Lopez started.

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They posted that Troy and Michael put up a banner on the Bravo making fun of Farrah's Falls. I think that is the dirtiest thing I have ever heard of. They were big buddies and Farah's mom was SOOOOOOOO into them. The posts says that they were made because she started that business. The NOW have a fall business and the poster said they were so greedy they wanted that too, along with their other 6 or 7 spin off COI businesses. They have got to be the most selfish people I have heard of. They want it all. I wish I could have seen the banner they put up making fun of her fall business. But that is the way they are. They can't stand for anyone to have ANYTHING but them. What did the banner say? I would like to hear more about this, it is one of the tackier things they have done, besides bashing kids on the internet because they were mad at their parents.

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Re: It is not F. Lopez. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:26:30 09/07/02 Sat
THEN WHO IS F'S MOM. THEY ALSO HAD A FALLING OUT WITH FL AND HER MOM OVER SOMETHING. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:41:43 09/07/02 Sat
Re: Lopez switched to Toni O for h/m. that was what got them hating on her. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:44:22 09/07/02 Sat
HERE IS THE POST BELOW>>>> T/M do not give a damn if she awards the money or not. What they do care about is loosing 50 or more contestants in their own pageants. Don't you get they do not care about YOU or your kid, all they care about is their wallet ! Remember when F's mom started selling falls and they had a banner made ridiculing her ? I was so shocked. With 2 pageants and a photography business, you'd think they could leave the hair fall business to someone else but noooooooo !! (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:26:34 09/07/02 Sat

Subject: MDD vs FF

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Well I intended to go to FF in the beginning but I've definitely changed my mind.
T&M have been bashing in every single possible way since MDD started - not only did they call the director and THREATENED her, but they bashed H/M coming, kids coming, gosh they even bashed the HOTEL price !!
How can adults go that low ? And the worse is they must think we are so damn stupid and no see through them.

So... we're headed to MDD instead. Butler is supposed to "run the show". He was supposed to run quite a number of pageants this year (including some he didnt even come to). He was supposed to run ED last year - but guess who won a Supreme and 8 door titles ? It wasn't LB ! LOL.

I just wish all of the directors would stop taking us for fools and let us make our own decisions. T/M sure showed their true faces these past few months and I for one am NOT liking them.

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T/M are egotistical, nasty, and twofaced creeps. They bash anyone and everyone that is not tied in with them and their systems. They have been into wars with every other big name h/m person and are in wars with parents that leave them for someone better. They showed their true colors years ago when the bashed kids all over the internet and spit in the face of the woman holding her child. The reason they spit on her was because she had the guts to call their pageant systems what they are which is hi-priced POLITICAL TRASH.. imho (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:15:31 09/06/02 Fri
Amen Sister !!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:49:30 09/06/02 Fri
Please go to MDD........I don't think I can be in the same room much less hotel with people who are sooooooo worried over a CHILDRENS beauty pageant!! Please go,go, go to MDD and shut the HELL up!!!!!!! I will got to faces and bring back hopefully one of those gorgeous crowns!!!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:55:09 09/06/02 Fri
Please go to MDD........I don't think I can be in the same room much less hotel with people who are sooooooo worried over a CHILDRENS beauty pageant!! Please go,go, go to MDD and shut the HELL up!!!!!!! I will got to faces and bring back hopefully one of those gorgeous crowns!!!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:55:10 09/06/02 Fri
LOL if you're not "worried" then what are you doing here ? Pot calling the kettle black much !! (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:04:07 09/06/02 Fri
THEN YOU BETTER HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THAT STINKY GURU SH** ALL OVER YOUR NOSE AND FACE. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN FF AND NO CROWN IS WORTH THE KIND OF STINKY THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO TO WIN AN FF PAGEANT. PARTICULARLY WHEN THE DAMN DIRECTOR YOU SUCK BUTT WITH JUDGES THEIR OWN PAGEANT. ROTFLMAO (NT) -- Anonymous, 09:34:36 09/06/02 Fri
If you know all, please tell who is going to win in the 0-4 at faces. (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:12:21 09/06/02 Fri
Let me add that I know it is a 0-5 grand, but give me winners in each age group as well as the 0-5 grand. Convince me BABY! (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:20:00 09/06/02 Fri
You'll have to call TM they have the winners list at their house. If you BABY them enough maybe they'll share it with you BABY. (NT) -- Anonymous, 13:16:40 09/06/02 Fri
You have to promise to become a big client of their and let them rule you and your child, tell you where to go and tell you what to spend. THEN they will give you a crown in return. That is how you win FF or GD, SUCK BABY SUCK. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:06:55 09/07/02 Sat

Subject: Here is some truthfulness about the guru directors who are so worried about their pageant. If they were not worried, they would not have called their soldiers out to post for them on any board where they are being exposed.

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They start out with all the sugarcoated lies then they move on to snare the big money from anyone who is willing to pay. After you pay in several thousand dollars, you begin to see that that money is going for their child and their wins. If you happen to compete in the same supreme group, you start noticing a tearing down of your child in suttle ways. This happens if they are scared your child might win out. They make fun of them in underhanded tacky ways and someone who has a brain begins to see the method they use. They try to brainwash you that THEIR child is better than everyone else and that you have to come in second place or suffer the consequences. I guess some people who don't have a child in their age group or supreme group might last longer than those who do. It also depends on how much money you got and how long they can suck you dry and you not figure it out. A year would be about right because that is about 4 or 5 pageants and that is where the true colors start showing after seeing their displays or arrogance and spitefulness.

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This post describes (NT) -- Anonymous, 05:59:22 09/07/02 Sat
Re: This post describes T AND M like it was written for them. rotflmao, cuz I am sure it was. LOL LOL LOL LOL (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:00:08 09/07/02 Sat

Subject: This post is from a click in below in another post. You have the LB mixed up with the HD kid. Neither one is anything but a plain looking kid until their daddies put tons of makeup and false hair all over their head. Six of one and half dozen of the other. But I agree with your point that a crown means nothing if it is a fixed win. But some parents don't care. They just want a crown so they can blast this made up little kids photo all over BRAVO bragging about NOTHING.

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I TOTALLY AGREE. PAGEANTS ARE NOW RUINED WITH THE CHAOS AND THE LIKES OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS. WHO THE HELL CARES TO WIN A PAGEANT IF IT'S ALREADY FIXED? WHAT DOES THAT CROWN STAND FOR? IT STANDS FOR MY MOMMY PAID LOTS OF MONEY FOR THAT PIECE OF METAL. WHAT DO THE CHILDREN GET FROM THAT? WILL WINNING THIS CERTAIN PAGEANT HELP THIS CHILD IN ANYWAY TO HELP HER BECOME A BETTER PERSON IN LIFE OR ADVANCE HER MODELING? ALL THIS BICKERING, BITCHING, AND BASHING, LIEING, CHEATING, AND STEALING HAS MADE PAGEANTS LOOK VERY BAD AND PEOPLE WHO COULD CARE LESS WHAT T/M THINK OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER WILL NOT BUY INTO IT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE HELL T/M ARE. ARE THEY THE GAY GUYS WITH LESLIE BUTLER WHO HAS MESSED UP TEETH, BUT STILL WINS BEAUTY PAGEANTS? I ONLY KNOW THIS BECAUSE OF A SHOW ON HBO. BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT. I DO LIKE READING THIS BOARD. IT'S ACTUALLY FUNNY THAT ADULTS REALLY ACT THIS WAY. I JUST HOPE THEY DON'T ACT OR TALK THIS WAY AROUND THE CHILDREN. REMEMBER THEM?

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Subject: Some thoughts posted to the guru guys. This was on another board. It is unbelievable how a useless crown can make people become brainless cult followers.

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I have a prediction to make for you. Within one year you will be scratching your ass to get money to pay for all the wonderful things you desire.You are a CANCER that has ate away at most of the pageants especially in the south. I know a lot of directors that wish the had never seen either one of you. You have done everything you can do to make them completly unfair. You were the first to not give scoresheets, and the rest followed in just a few years. You are the first to create circut judges. Before directors got their own judges. You created circut judges because you knew them all. They started with you. You started all this digital photos, because you cant shoot a decent photo without it being digital. You have cheated, in everyway possible and made pageants a mockery in everyway. No wonder most of the public think pageants are for the insane. I a time when pageants need to put their best foot forward you offer a satans cloven hoof to show the world. ALL YOU DIRECTORS that wonder what is happening to pageants only have to look at the past six years to see what is wrong. We used to have fine upstanding directors that cared what people did at their pageants because it might tarnish their image of being wholesome for children, but now we have the dredge of society runing most of our pageants and they dont care what anyone thinks as long as the money pours in. They think they are too big to be touched. Some day some of the parents of these children will open their eyes and do something to save whats left of the pageant world and bring some honor to holding a title. Theres nothing to be proud of now when you win, even if by chance you won honestly. You can blame a lot of people on these boards and lord knows there are plenty. You would like to convince everyone of your potential clients that just a few people are complaining, let me tell you that there is no way just a few people could do this amount of complaining and everyone knows that. You see, every year you add more and more enemys and pretty soon you have enough to tell the world about all your lies. You have caused a lot of people to go out of business and told them you would do so when they crossed you. You have caused a lot more to quit pageants because they weren't strong enough to fight you and win. Some day all these people might get together and be your worst nightmare. Wouldn't that be a hoot? Anyway CANCER is what you are because you have ate the heart out of pageants.

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They want to rule everyone. The threaten their clients with not doing their h/m again if they don't go where they tell them.. Many of their clients have told the freakos to GO TO HELL. They will go where they want to. Then the mean ass freakos go around calling those people's kids UGLY. They are trash of the pageant world. imho (NT) -- Anonymous, 17:00:36 09/06/02 Fri
WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME OF T/M'S BRAINLESS SOLDIERS ON THIS BOARD TRYING TO RUN DAMAGE CONTROL. rotflmao (NT) -- Anonymous, 17:03:47 09/06/02 Fri
Re: WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME OF T/M'S BRAINLESS SOLDIERS ON THIS BOARD TRYING TO RUN DAMAGE CONTROL. rotflmao (NT) -- Anonymous, 17:12:09 09/06/02 Fri
Re: Some thoughts posted to the guru guys. This was on another board. It is unbelievable how a useless crown can make people become brainless cult followers. -- Anonymous, 05:15:10 09/07/02 Sat

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1. Congratulate everyone you know when they win, even if it was against your child.

2. Be kind. Watch what you say at pageants to and about others. Walls are thin and so is skin!

3. Save your anger and tears of disappointment for when you are driving home and your child is asleep. Children misundertand mommie's anger and take it as they did not live up to what was expected.

4. Be quiet. Sometimes silence IS golden.

5. Be real, it's only a title and depending on who is there competing means whether your child will walk out winning or losing.

6. Undertand it's an opinion just what you paid for and everyone has one. It may not be your opinion but then if it were, you would be judging not competing your child!

7. If a pageant is up and up, the director can NOT work it to your favor if the judges decided against your child. No matter how good friends you are or what you say after, accept the decision and handle it with maturity and grace, it's only a pageant. Do not scream at the director it is not their fault no matter what they said prior to the pageant. Your child stands a wonderful chance does not mean your child is going to win!

8. If winning means so much you will destroy people to take home a crown, rethink why you do pageants.

9. Support your friends on their wins and losses, if your child wins over them, do not rub their faces in it. Next time it may be them wearing the crown!

10. No matter what you think and feel keep it where it belongs inside yourself. To do otherwise takes away from the winners. If you think a decision was unfair or a director slanted, do not do the pageant again. No explanation needed to the director....remember SILENCE IS GOLDEN!

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Any predictions of who will be Grand Majestic at NC Cover Miss next weekend? Any predictions on the Miss division?

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Glad everyone is catching onto Total MIss and how HD has never lost there. -- No name, 08:19:10 04/05/03 Sat
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It's off my list also. Not that we had a chance for the top prize which HD will get, but we all know she'll also get all side events in our age group so no thank you. Any other pageant on that date ? (NT) No name 17:37:36 04/04/03 Fri

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read -- No name, 09:08:19 10/17/02 Thu
When Baby Swans Grow Older

But playing dress-up on the pageant stage costs parents financially, and some experts argue that it can be harmful to girls, teaching them that their self-worth is measured by how pretty they are.

"What they are learning basically is that they have one characteristic which is of total primary importance, and that is their body and their attractiveness," said Syd Brown, a child and adolescent psychologist practicing in Maryland. Brown warns that baby swans often become ugly adolescent ducklings, a development that could usher in a host of emotional problems in young adulthood.

"What happens if these kids develop acne? Or they need braces?" asks Brown, "Or what happens if they don't develop physically? What happens to them then?"

Another concern is that the contests may breed narcissism. While a certain degree of self-love and value is critical for children, Brown feels that pageants tip the scale of what is healthy and natural child development. He is concerned that children will put too much emphasis on physical attractiveness as they form relationships with others.

Beyond a Bow in the Hair

Pageants have changed over the years, with children going further and further to look more attractive, one veteran organizer said.

"Competitions 25 years ago really only required a party dress and a satin hair bow," says Eleanor Vonduyke, a former Denver-based pageant director who was in the business for 20 years.

But these days, it is not unusual to see children with highlighted or bleached hair. Some young contestants wear false eyelashes or "flippers," which are false teeth used to cap missing front teeth.

Vonduyke, who directed pageants in which JonBen�t Ramsey competed, left the industry after the 6-year-old Colorado girl was found murdered. The investigation cast a dark shadow on the contests, she said, as images of JonBen�t competing in pageants were shown repeatedly in media reports on the ongoing investigation. Vonduyke is currently working on a book about the industry.

In addition to the child development and image concerns there are financial issues surrounding pageants, too. The run for crowns and cash can cost thousands of dollars. Entry fees range from $10 to $200. Dresses can cost up to $5,000, with most averaging $1,000 or so.

At the highest contest levels, contestants are required to wear multiple outfits appropriate for the different categories they must compete in. Coaches, modeling lessons, makeup and travel also add to the enormous price tags.

"Some people, myself included, think it's foolish to spend that much on a baby, but we do it to win and to have a good time," said one pageant mom, Heather Cocke. "If you don't really have the clothes, you don't win."

A Nest Egg for College

Pageant proponents say the contests offer the children many benefits. In addition to giving their children the chance to earn college scholarships, modeling contracts, and cash, parents of mini beauty queens claim it boosts their children's self-esteem, builds self-confidence and forges lasting friendships.

For Clark and her granddaughter, the investment paid off. Jayleigh earned $1,800 after winning a crown at the Summerville pageant, and is getting ready to sign a modeling contract in a month. From these earnings, Clark has set aside nearly enough to finance Jayleigh's college tuition.

For pageant judge Holly Tevan, pageants are "a wonderful way for a family to spend quality time together." Her own four children used pageant earnings to help pay for their college education, she said.

Just Like Little League

For a lot of parents, beauty contests are no different than chauffeuring their children around to Little League, or other athletic competitions.

"I was always involved in the baseball, the football, the basketball, the dance and now my kids are grown," said Clark. "To me this is the same thing, it's a sport we travel to. We teach her, she practices, and you win prizes. It's just the same. It's just a sport."

For Brilliant, the recreational aspect is one of pageantry's tenets. She wants parents to know that their child is gaining self-esteem, making new friends and having a good time. As for parents, "they get to have the opportunity to travel to a bunch of places and meet new people," she adds.

"You can't let the competition be the most important thing," said Lisa Larrymore, whose daughter, Danika, is a pageant regular. "The most important thing is the girl, the girl-time together and the bonding and the fun."

Too Sexy, Too Soon?

One of the concerns of critics like Brown is that the contests push the girls into the realm of sexuality, long before their time.

"When you have them looking older, for a lot of people that means looking sexier. I don't think it's a great idea for girls at that age to be focused so much on their sexuality," Brown said. "If you're telling a 6-year-old to act like a 16-year-old, you're telling her to be seductive and to be sexy."

But Brilliant contends that isn't the case, and says that critics misconstrue what the girls do when they take the stage.

"I wouldn't say it's sexualized," she said. "I think that they're more just trying to be a model and it's more of a dance routine than anything."

Paul Peterson, a former child actor, is the president and founder of A Minor Consideration, an organization working to change the child entertainment industry. He believes the pageants not only put demands on children's time and energies, but also sexualize young girls.

"This is feeding the sex industry," Peterson said. "There is a tremendous trade within juvenile modeling."

But simply dressing for the pageant doesn't necessarily mean looking older, Tevan said. In fact, young competitors who try to look too old could receive points off, she said.

"If the child would have a dress on that we feel is too low cut for a child that age or if the child uses movements that aren't age-appropriate, then we would probably take off points," Tevan said.

The �Pageant Mom� Phenomenon

Critics have also raised concerns about "pageant moms," women who aggressively market their children in beauty contests.

Lisa J. Rapport, a psychology professor at Wayne State University in Detroit studied 74 former young performers in television and film. She found that mothers who served as managers were likely to have a far less stable and positive relationship with their children than were mothers who kept business separate.

"When parents become overly invested in the child's success, it may be more difficult to pull back and listen," said Rapport, who also discovered that the incidence of substance and alcohol abuse was higher among former kid performers.

But pageant advocates say that such stories are few and far between.

"Sometimes the parents are living through the child," Brilliant said. "But, I'd say that 95 percent of the time, parents really are doing it because the children want to do it."

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Re:. read -- No name, 02:52:23 03/28/03 Fri

The TRUTH about NES..... -- No name, 19:37:14 03/25/03 Tue
I thought long and hard before I decided to post this, but I am getting sick and tired of the DISHONESTY that occurs in pageants so I thought I would let everyone know what happened to us and YOU can decide for yourself whether or not you want to support this pageant. Everything seemed to go okay up until the day of crowning. My daughter's optional score was added incorrectly, she was low balled BADLY by two judges and got high nineties from the other three judges,she was called up as a runner up in her age division for beauty. We wrote down everyone's scores in her division from the master score sheet after crowning. Upon returning home, we discovered that MY DAUGHTER SHOULD NOT have been called up as a runner up for the beauty title AT ALL, as a matter of fact, she finished DEAD LAST according to the scores(thanks to the two low balling judges). One of the girl's who didn't get called up at all should have been 2nd runner up in our division and the girl who was second runner up should have been 3rd runner up.... Talk about a mess!! Not only that, the 0-4 overall supermodel was a beauty winner and SHOULD NOT have been double crowned!! I thought I was doing the RIGHT thing by contacting the director and letting her know what happened in our age division as well as the double crowning. (How many people would ADMIT their child SHOULD NOT HAVE PLACED???)I also did some searching and contacted the mom of the contestant who should have placed and explained to her what happened. I was told in an e-mail by the director back in December that OA most beautiful would be added at the door. Supreme and age division Overalls would be BUMPED out. Well, that changed as time went on to NO BUMPING. Same thing with dropping high and low scores. When I got my entry form it stated dropping high and low scores, got changed to dropping only low scores. On the welcome form it said in one spot dropping high and low and in another dropping only low??? When I told her I thought she should do the right thing and admit she made a mistake and double crown two 0-4 overall supermodels here is the reply I received: "Beauty is not a queen title at NES and I never had any intentions of bumping a beauty winner from that title. I did not make a mistake YOU made the mistake by ASSUMING you understood!" Yet here is the EXACT post TAMMY made on March 2nd which was posted on the NES pageant question board and again on the 8th, but as soon as it was mentioned on the pageant scene board she deleted it from the archives!!! SUBJECT: TWO EXTRA TITLES:
After a lot of thought and some great ideas from everyone, here's what I have decided to do with the extra two titles.
We are adding 2 America's Sweetheart Supermodel titles
0-4 & 5&Up
There will be bumping, so if you win a Supreme, Div Overall or Beauty title you cannot win this title. I have done this because I would like to see more kids go home with crowns and banners and feel good about themselves
There will be no charge for this and everyone will be entered(unless someone has chosen to do Beauty, 1 model event and portfolio, photo, they would not have two modeling events to add together)
We will be taking you highest two modeling scores to determine it
The winners will receive a crown, banner and gift.
So now who is lying???? I will not now or EVER be called a LIAR. And before you say: You're daughter must be next in line for the 0-4 Overall supermodel award, think again, we were no where near that age division. SHE SHOULD DO THE RIGHT THING HERE. Sorry, but you just can't keep changing the rules, especially when you say one thing and people have already sent their entry forms in and then change the rules to make a select few happy. WRONG in MY book!!!

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PLEASE POST ON OTHER BOARDS--HELP PROTECT THE CHILDREN -- No name, 22:26:02 10/15/02 Tue
Please forward this on every board!!! This man poses as a woman looking for models for hire. He has contacted many parents of potential models and pageant girls on these boards and others about having your child to model for pictures so she can get exposure! The catch is--this is a child porn photographer.
Here is the email he/she sends to parents........
From: rachelleerickson@hotmail.com (Rachelle Erickson)
Here are the following categories we are shooting. We�ll shoot both indoors
and outdoors. With most of the types, we�ll do headshots, � length, and full
length.

Action � We�ll take some pictures of each girl doing an activity like
dancing, gymnastics, cheerleading, baton twirling, horseback riding, etc.

Formal � These pictures should be in a formal portrait style. The model
should wear a formal full-length dress. If you like, she could wear make-up,
and have her hair done in a formal style, although it�s not necessary.

Casual � We want pictures of happy kids in a catalog style. The model could
wear shirt, pants, shorts, overalls, shortalls, skirtalls, etc. She should
not wear make-up, and her hair should be in a casual style.

Swimwear � The model should wear a cute bikini. We�ll do some pictures both
with and without the top, so we�ll have some bottoms only shots.

Underwear � The model should panties and a crop top. We�ll do pictures both
with and without the crop top, so there�ll be some pictures with just
panties only.

Nudes � We�ll shoot the nudes last. Within the worlds of art, photography,
modeling, and fashion, nudity is extremely common and entirely acceptable.
There is no reason why your child posing nude for a photographer should be
any less acceptable than your child being examined nude by your
pediatrician. Artists have portrayed nude children for thousands of years.
Nude child photography has been a serious genre of art since the invention
of photography. It was especially common in the 19th Century. Lewis Carroll,
who wrote "Alice in Wonderland" did nude child photography. Brooke Shields
modeled nude when she was 10 years old. She never would have become famous
otherwise. Anne Geddes does nudes of babies. Many photographers specialize
in nude child photography. Many famous photographers do nude child
photography including Sally Mann, Jock Sturges, David Hamilton, Edward
Weston, Richard West, Ron Oliver, etc. These are adorable beautiful images
capturing fleeting childhood innocence. With kids, you�re supposed to do
what�s called �cutsey nudes� which are all smiles and dimples. It�s supposed
to elicit �awww!�. If the model has long hair, then the pigtails are the
traditional hairstyle. Remember, we�re trying to capture cuteness.

Rachelle

For more info on this child porn photographer Go to--<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.onlineranks.com/rachelle.html">http://www.onlineranks.com/rachelle.html</a>
Contact the FBI if he contacts you !!!!

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Some posts that offer good food for thought. -- No name, 16:37:53 10/07/02 Mon
Subject: I think these posts help explain the reason so many people despise some of these high priced vendors. They pump you up, get your money, then let you down. When you DARE to ask them why they did such and such, they try to put your child out of pageants to get even with you. NONE of them can be trusted.

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I just need to vent.... -- Anonymous, 21:34:21 10/06/02 Sun

You know, all of us that are not able to do for ourselves and are forced to use vendors to compete, are at their mercy. If your clothes are not made to fit correctly, or are not finished on time, then you are sunk. If your hair or makeup isn't good, then you are sunk. It sucks that all your hard earned money spent on these goods and services, and on the entry fees and all the other things required to compete, can be flushed down the toilet in an instant if someone else screws up. It is not fair that your child will be punished by the judges if something someone else does is not perfect. I guess you either have to learn to do it yourself, or make sure you have dependable, honest, trustworthy vendors. Anyone know where I might find some??? Are there any?

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[> Re: I just need to vent.... -- Anonymous, 22:14:41 10/06/02 Sun

You also are totally dependent on your photographer, your coach, the judges, the directors, and anyone else you may use for anything. And the answer is NO, there are no honest, trustworthy and dependable vendors. If you are lucky enough to find one who is, you are very lucky. But good luck finding vendors for all your needs that won't let you down. I suggest doing it all yourself, and having your own pageant and judging it yourself too.lol

An added note:
(I think the last 2 sentences describe the most hated of all vendors. Also, they have connections to get their child those unearned wins she gets and everyone knows it.)

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ALL NEW BOARD -- No name, 23:38:31 09/27/02 Fri
111607 POST OPINIONS, CONCERNS, OPINIONS, CONGRATS, and anything else on your mind!!

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Not doing the pageant thing -- Got smart mom, 09:12:32 09/15/02 Sun
WOW, my daughter did pageants for awhile when she was 5-7 and did really well and had tons of fun. But after reading this board I am so grateful that a talent agent pulled her out and told us to stop wasting our time with this crap, and get her modeling. She has already made enough money to pay for a good portion of her college education and she's only 11! She recently told me she wanted to start pageants again but after reading all this stuff on here, I think we will stick to modeling. All this back stabbing and name calling is unreal. Yeah we have this same crap in the modeling world but we get paid well to put up with it and its easy to ignore as professional jelousy. To PAY other people to put up with this crap is just ridiculous. Think about it folks, what are you really getting here? Fame? Fortune? Come on, your paying through the nose for photo's, dresses, pageant entry fee's and getting small return on your investment. No one outside of your backstabbers group even knows who you are. And consider the pedifiles out there in the audiences of your childs pageants, don't kid yourself into thinking there not there, they are. Sure they can look at my childs photo's in print, I can't stop that but they are hard pressed to find out who she is, in the pageant system the names are read right off and can be easily found in a program. Not hard for a freak to figure out where you live. Thanks for opening my eyes everyone and well, best of luck!

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Go to board #94330 and post your predictions.. stuff on there about tlc and aue coming up!!!!! -- No name, 22:15:12 09/07/02 Sat
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