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| Subject: Everyone following @tattltreble on instagram | |
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] Date Posted: 11:23:23 02/09/24 Fri [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
| [> Subject: I've been following the comments on the UK & Ireland Voy board. But here's the thing. If you/your kid are still dancing with CLRG, you're tacitly accepting all the cheating that's been going on, right? So what difference does the TT IG account make? It's crystal clear that CLRG wholeheartedly embraces cheating and has no plans to do a thing to stop it. | |
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Author: amiright? [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:53:03 02/09/24 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: @tattletreble | |
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Author: @tattletreble [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:38:52 02/09/24 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Exactly why dd is done! Walked away and not looking back. | |
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Author: see ya [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:06:30 02/10/24 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Walked away but still checking in on this voy?! | |
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Author: lol [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:46:37 02/11/24 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: Not the AP but I understand the schadenfreude | |
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Author: . [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:50:41 02/11/24 Sun People throw a lot of time, effort, sweat and tears into this hobby. I could easily see a situation where someone walked away, but is still curious about this scandal. Seeing it all unfold (again) in this very public way is probably validating their choice to leave. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: Lots of people do. My dancer stopped a few months ago but I still like to keep up. I know retired dancers who do so as well. There's no rule that says you must be an active dancer or a parent of one to read the Voy board. | |
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Author: mama [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:28:55 02/12/24 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Massachusetts school implicated in latest text. | |
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Author: Disheartening [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 07:01:33 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Yes- this is a shock. | |
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Author: We knew NE wouldn't get off scot free but surprised at how blatant this is [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 07:37:01 02/14/24 Wed A real shame and so embarrassing for everyone involved. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: What am I missing? I'm following TT on IG but I don't see the connection to MA. What is it? | |
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Author: curious MA dancer [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:17:20 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: I'm not comfortable spelling it out, but the name is clearly in the texts and the cover | |
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Author: most recent post [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:20:42 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Got it! And I must say, I am not even a tiny bit surprised. | |
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Author: he's crooked [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:17:47 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: And embarassing for the dancer identified in those texts | |
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Author: karma [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:24:21 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: this is the thing i hate about all of this - the children/young people outed | |
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Author: surely they didn't know that their teacher was cheating for them? [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:33:49 02/14/24 Wed it must be quite the shock. Or- do parents know or do young adults know when their teachers are cheating for them? is that even a thing? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: I'm sure they didn't. But this TC/AD surely knew he was risking getting caught. He's the one who chose to put them in this embarrassing position. Fortunately these texts are from years ago, and anyone who was in senior ladies or Girls 19-20 (the only 2 groups I've seen him reference) are adults now. At least they are not called out by name. | |
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Author: sad situation [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:05:18 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: There is nobody still dancing there who would have been 19-20 at the time. | |
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Author: Dancer retired [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:30:52 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: There was no dancer at the school at that time. The person you are referencing transferred there only a couple years ago | |
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Author: Iddd [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 03:06:16 02/15/24 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: KB did not even judge that age group at AI. Joke’s on all of us! | |
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Author: No smoking gun here [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:16:06 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: But the dancers' number and comp make sense when you look at the results - the favor was requested, but didn't end up on panel | |
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Author: Disappointed but not keeping head in the sand [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:09:08 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: But the dancers' number and comp make sense when you look at the results - the favor was requested, but he didn't end up on panel | |
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Author: Disappointed but not keeping head in the sand [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:09:54 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Yes- this is a clear case of cheating | |
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Author: Doesn't matter if the goal was achieved. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:00:03 02/15/24 Thu This is how it works- if they get lucky and their buddies are on a panel, you'll see dancers place high- if not, they won't place as high. Asking is cheating though, plain and simple. And I'm 100% sure it wasn't the first or last time it happened. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Nobody can be surprised by NE's involvement. I lost a lot of respect for our region ever since the PKA TCs/ADs got off so lightly after they were caught trying so clumsily to cheat | |
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Author: NE condones cheating [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:22:03 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: Idiots couldn’t even get the judge’s room number, right🤣 | |
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Author: Remember it well [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:09:18 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Exactly. But they were soon prancing around as if nothing had happened. That whole debacle just proved that NE wholeheartedly embraces cheating. | |
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Author: cheatah, cheatah [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:10:41 02/15/24 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Wouldn't you have thought they'd have been too ashamed to show their crooked faces in the ID world ever again? | |
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Author: ? [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:22:28 02/19/24 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: No because other NE schools are cheating too and they are also prancing around | |
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Author: -so much cheating in so many different ways.. all over NE [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:08:57 02/19/24 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: So that makes it okay? | |
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Author: lol [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:37:10 02/23/24 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: I saw too that Br*dy was implicated. I’m just sad. Sad because I feel stuck. My daughter loves to dance and compete, and that’s why I accept the cheating. But it’s sad to see that with all her hard work it will never be fair. Never. | |
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Author: Sad mama for our region [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:28:44 02/14/24 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: So at this point, if you look at the majority of podium placers at the O | |
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Author: they are from schools that have been outed [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 04:07:21 02/16/24 Fri A small school here or there gets a top dancer on the box, but the sheer number of dancers that WQ or stand on the podium are from schools that cheat. Remind me why we let our children compete in this foolishness? I really wish Competitive Irish Dance wasn't so corrupt, but it is. Hope everyone who doesn't condone this cheating or profit from this corruption can find a way to celebrate their love of Irish Dance outside of competition. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: So who are these awesome dancers you believe didn't make it to the box? | |
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Author: dmmm [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:10:59 02/16/24 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: I think you may be missing the point | |
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Author: the point is that these schools are cheating [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:34:13 02/16/24 Fri There is no reason to answer a very defensive question of "who is an "awesome dancer you believe didn't make it to the box". This is the point behind the post: There is zero question that cheating is wrong. No gray area. Many schools that are considered "successful" in the NE region have been outed as cheaters. These facts cannot be refuted despite the effort to redirect the conversation. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: That’s not a fair conclusion to draw, especially when you are talking about children’s accomplishments | |
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Author: Respect for the kids [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:47:39 02/16/24 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I believe that the adults who sent texts for placements are the one diminishing the children's accomplishments | |
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Author: not those that call it out [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:23:52 02/16/24 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Right but make sure you aren’t calling out those that truly earned it | |
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Author: Adults are ruining this sport for the kids [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:44:50 02/16/24 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It is true- another adult driven disgrace- makes sense to blame the teachers that cheated, not the adults that call it out | |
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Author: To be fair, cheating calls all placements into question [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:26:26 02/16/24 Fri No one can possibly know for sure which placements are real and which have been unduly influenced by texts/phone calls/face to face conversations. It's a real shame, and most of all for the kids. Adults are taking advantage of children for the sake of their pocketbooks- you have a champion, you parade them in front of everyone to build your school- more money, more championships, more money, etc. etc. We now know that these teachers actively sought out certain placements- too bad they didn't just trust the dancers talent and training. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Cheating calls all placements into question | |
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Author: cheating teachers let students down [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 07:43:40 02/20/24 Tue sad that they don't trust their own teaching nor their student's talent. and because we know they cheat, they call all of their student's accomplishments into question. on the day there are generally anywhere from 5-10 kids that could win a competition and around 20-25 that could be seen as potential WQ. if a child dances with a school that has been called out by screenshots or by previous envelopes slipped under doors- no one trusts those placements anymore. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: This is an over generalization, having a successful school does not equate to cheating. Spreading information that is not fact based is irresponsible, unproductive and it hurts more than it helps | |
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Author: "" [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:43:30 02/16/24 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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