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Date Posted: 19:37:24 03/29/08 Sat
Author: Phil
Author Host/IP: 71-223-7-96.phnx.qwest.net / 71.223.7.96
Subject: Re: Sad as it may be, I agree with Catie...
In reply to: Catie 's message, "Re: Traditional Church" on 15:20:11 03/29/08 Sat

Catholics often state things in a condescending fashion, then get angry with us Prot'nts when we state the truth, even moreso when correct them on the error of their ways.

Truth be told: Catholics have trouble distinguishing btwn the physical church and the congregation of the faithful. They seem appalled, for example, when I tell the wonderful story of a church gathering that started in somebody's living room and blossomed into 1 of the largest churches in the Vegas area. As if, this story is weird and barbaric or something.

Most Prot'nts are much more focused on the congregation itself and less on the physical bldg itself and what some for'n potentate says, not to mention, more on spiritual matters (such as doctrine and the Bible) than on the bureaucratic organization that rules from afar with a iron fist.

Something that I've observed, having converted from Catholic to Prot'nt. I'm sure this wont be popular but its still very obvious to me.

Take care, God Bless,

Phil from AZ

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[> [> [> [> Re: Some of this didnt come out the way I wanted it, Joan... -- Phil, 00:08:54 03/30/08 Sun [1] (71-223-7-96.phnx.qwest.net/71.223.7.96)

Plz feel free to delete it if you wish. Take care, God Bless,

Phil

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[> [> [> [> [> Stripping of the Altars -- Joan, 07:11:31 03/30/08 Sun [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

It's no secret that Catholic churches (the buildings) were stripped of anything that others thought smacked of idolatry. They completely misunderstood the meaning and function of the beautiful things they were destroying. If for no other reason than respect for art, they shouldn't have destroyed those objects.

I've been in protestant churches that are more ornate than my parish church. But Catholic churches are usually much more ornate than Protestant churches.

I just like a traditional style church building. It doesn't matter is if extremely ornate, so long as it's set up in a traditional way and has traditional style art. I don't care for the abstract crosses. If there is stained glass, I prefer pictoral vs geometric.

For that matter, I like a traditional style house, too. The newer, open floor plans don't appeal to me, especially when you get a view of the kitchen sink from the front door. :)

"God is in all these churches both lavish and plain. But,as a Catholic, I like what I've been used to since my childhood; that is a lavish church."

Very well said.

Joan

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[> [> [> [> [> [> This was supposed to be under Neysa's post. -- Joan, 07:47:39 03/30/08 Sun [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

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[> [> [> [> Traditional Catholic Church -- Neysa, 00:26:01 03/30/08 Sun [1] (user-2ive065.dialup.mindspring.com/165.247.0.197)

I love the statues, all the gold and oppulence of an old traditional Catholic Church. In England I was in Anglican Churches that were very oppulent. If I didn't know before going inside I would have thought it was a Catholic Church.

I was taught in school that there is nothing wrong with the the inside of a Church being lavish, after all it is God's house, we are honoring him with all the beauty. That is why Mother Angelica made her shrine in Huntsville,so lavish inside. That is what I was brought up with and to me it gives me a warm feeling inside when I walk into an ornate church.

When I walk into a Catholic Church I expect and want this lavishness, as did my ancestors. Otherwise, they would have left the Catholic Church, and become Protestant. As we all know many did just that because they felt that you don't need a lavish church, just a plain building without statues, etc... to worship God. I agree you don't need all that lavishness. I've been in an Episcopal and Lutheran Church that was ornate. In a Reformed Church of Chist, and an Assembly of God that was plain. God is in all these churches both lavish and plain. But,as a Catholic, I like what I've been used to since my childhood; that is a lavish church. Perhaps, if I grew up worshipping in a plain, modern, Catholic Church I might have a different view about a traditional vs modern Catholic Church.

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What a load of crap -- Joan, 07:03:00 03/30/08 Sun [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

Where do you get your information, Phil? I suggest you buy a copy of the CCC. You have no idea what Catholics believe about anything, including how we define "Church". Buy a Catholic dictionary while you're at the bookstore. The people there will help you find the religion section. :)

Joan

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