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Date Posted: 11:20:21 04/02/08 Wed
Author: Catie
Author Host/IP: h95.231.140.67.ip.alltel.net / 67.140.231.95
Subject: I'm curious have any of you Christians seen this? If so what are your opinions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA

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[> Yikes, Joan. Apologies. I should have asked your permission first. Please -- Catie, 11:21:41 04/02/08 Wed [1] (h95.231.140.67.ip.alltel.net/67.140.231.95)

delete if you rather it not be here. Sorry again.

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[> [> Re: Yikes, Joan. Apologies. I should have asked your permission first. Please -- Joan, 18:30:49 04/02/08 Wed [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

You don't need to ask for permission. :)

I had heard that Oprah was doing something strange, regarding religion, so I'm glad you posted the link.

It's too bad that so many people follow celebrities mindlessly. If Oprah reads it, they read it. If she likes it, they like it. If Oprah proclaims it, they believe it.
It's really pathetic.

It probably shows how much people want something to believe in. They want a religion, even if they think they don't. I blame modern America for that. Religion has been bashed in the US for several decades. It's blamed for depression, guilt, keeping women down, physical abuse, mental abuse, and deluding its adherents. I'm sure religion has been blamed for more than just that.

So, these poor Oprah fans, who really want a religion, latch on to Oprah's anti-religion, religion.

I don't think that these people will be happy with it for long. I don't think that Oprah will stick with it for long. She'll be on to the newest thing shorty. Just stay tuned. :)

Joan

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[> [> [> Thanks Joan. And yes I agree. You are right on. -- Catie, 14:22:36 04/03/08 Thu [1] (h95.231.140.67.ip.alltel.net/67.140.231.95)

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[> Re: I'm curious have any of you Christians seen this? If so what are your opinions? -- Neysa, 14:15:32 04/02/08 Wed [1] (user-38lci4i.dialup.mindspring.com/209.86.72.146)

Ever since getting my computer fixed I now cannot download anything on youtube. I'm curious what is it about?

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[> [> Neysa -- Catie, 14:19:44 04/03/08 Thu [1] (h95.231.140.67.ip.alltel.net/67.140.231.95)

It's about Oprah introduced her fans to a "guru" of sorts named Eckart(?) who basically teaches pantheism. She allows the course to be taken online (for a price) by all who wish to participate. False doctrines. Everyone is welcomed to believe as they choose, but she has a lot of influence and some folks won't get past the fact that it's Oprah who endorses this man.

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[> [> [> Thanks Catie............... -- Neysa, 20:15:05 04/03/08 Thu [1] (user-38lci5d.dialup.mindspring.com/209.86.72.173)

I've never heard of pantheism before. I agree 100% with what Joan, said, that people follow celebrites mindlessly. It sure is pathetic!

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[> [> [> [> pantheism is the belief that God is ALL things, that even we are God. -- Catie, 06:20:33 04/04/08 Fri [1] (h95.231.140.67.ip.alltel.net/67.140.231.95)

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[> [> [> [> [> These celebs......... -- Neysa, 12:15:27 04/04/08 Fri [1] (user-2ive03h.dialup.mindspring.com/165.247.0.113)

"that even we are God". How can we think of ourselves as God!!!! Sometimes, I wonder about...these celebs who become so wealthy like Oprah who is now a billionare. Now they can afford anything their heart desires, do anything, they have so much power financially that they start acting like a "God". and probably see themselves as a "God".

There isn't anything that is as scary as a poor person getting very wealthy, and then thinking they are better than the almighty.

All these wealthy people have their fads....Oprah will get tired of her guru and pantheism and move on to a new fad.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> I hope so, Neysa! I agree that Oprah now sees herself......... -- Barb, 15:06:22 04/04/08 Fri [1] (clgrtnt5-port-79.dial.telus.net/161.184.48.79)

as almost a God-like figure. She doesn't act, think or live like a mere mortal any longer...so I fear others will believe of her what she deems herself to be. She's delusional...but money and fame always speak loud and long! :-(

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> So very well said Barb!!!. -- Neysa, 15:37:26 04/04/08 Fri [1] (user-2ive02v.dialup.mindspring.com/165.247.0.95)

I thought it was just me who thought that Oprah sees herself like a God-figure. I used to enjoy watching the Oprah show. I haven't watched it now in a few years.

"She doesn't act,think,or live like a mere mortal any longer...." That is soooo true!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: These celebs......... -- Joan, 04:56:13 04/05/08 Sat [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

"There isn't anything that is as scary as a poor person getting very wealthy, and then thinking they are better than the almighty.

It's not just us poor folk. Old Money shuns these nuts, too. ;)

Joan

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> That is so true!!!! -- Neysa, 09:12:46 04/05/08 Sat [1] (user-2inik1t.dialup.mindspring.com/165.121.80.61)

In college I met a lot of people that came from old money. You didn't even know that they came from very wealthy families. I also met people from new money...they were the biggest braggarts, and made us less wealthy people feel like a poor peasant.

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