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Date Posted: 19:50:05 09/08/22 Thu
Author: Garr Wy
Subject: Re: Another illustrative report
In reply to: 's message, "Another illustrative report" on 19:02:47 09/08/22 Thu

Thanks for the example. Do you have some sort of brief general summary statement of what you think is going on with these procedures, why they are being done and who is doing them?

As for commenting on this particular example:

Examined from a skeptical point of view there are 2 possibilities:

1. It's exactly what they said, the kid got a catheter in case he peed during his surgery. I've know several people who worked in the health care industry, and some years ago, the attitude toward this sort of thing was, if the kid pees on the table, somebody will clean it up; the table has to be cleaned anyway before it can be used again.

2 The catheter was a part of or a result of some sort of pelvic procedure, possibly cystoscopy and/or something else. Tonsillectomies aren't cheap, and if the kid's account is true, to perform one at the request of the parent without any kind of medical referral seems rather odd and out of character for the medical establishment. Tonsillectomy is not generally considered an elective surgery. About the only elective surgical procedure I know that a parent in the USA could get performed on their kid would be circumcision. Plus, I agree that specifically soliciting patients for tonsillectomies seems rather odd.

Thank you for your responses and answering my questions.



>Here is a report that illustrates the use of catheter
>during tonsillectomies. I think this is fairly common
>nowadays, but the catheter is often taken out and
>underwear put on againg before the kid is fully awake.
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>Preteen boy, USA, tosilectomy in big truck with
>possible pelvic procedure
>
>I am male. As preteen 10-12 The procedure happened in
>North America.
>
>The procedure happened in USA.The procedure occured in
>2010 or later.I had tonsillectomy or adenectomy.in a
>small town where i live. A hospital in the nearest
>city brought a special truck to our town and if
>parents wanted to they could make an appointment for
>their kids to get their tonsils taken out for free.
>
>SYMPTOMS AFTERWARDS
>
>I had pain irritition or other problems in my mouth. I
>had pain irritation or other problems in my
>respiratory tract or lungs. My underwear beng messed
>up or other signs that I had been stripped naked at my
>lower body. When i woke up my underwear had been taken
>off.
>
>ARRANGEMENTS AND ANESTESIA
>
>They gave me gas through a mask.they put a mask on me
>and had me take deep breaths until i was under.
>
>The procedure occured in a special car or ambulance. I
>had gotten Tonsillitis a few times off and on and my
>mom decided to make an appointment for me to have them
>out. My mom drove me to the mall parking lot where the
>truck was set up. nono
>
>I was 12 and it happened in the summer before i
>started 8th grade in a special truck when i arrived at
>the truck my mom signed me in, then i was taken to a
>room where i was weighed and measured and given a gown
>to wear. After that i was taken to a little room to
>wait until it was time for my surgery. They had some
>toys and games me and some other kids could play with.
>I ended up talking to a friend of mine for a bit until
>he had to go for his operation
>
>ARRANGEMENTS AFTERWARDS
>
>Yeah i had one IV but i don't know what it was for. No
>breathing tube when I wole up just a mask but i was
>told i had one during the surgery. I had catheter they
>put one in just incase i had to pee during my
>operation. At least that's what they told me the
>reason for it and my underwear being off. Heart
>monitor. Yeah a nurse checked me to make sure i woke
>up. I was under the whole time
>
>COMMENTS
>
>This was probably done by the service called Ronald
>McDonalds Care Mobile or a similar service. The
>catheter alone might not indicate something more done
>than the tonsillectomy, but the behavior of the staff,
>and the eagerness to bring children in to the bus with
>the said purpose of tonsillectomy, suggest that they
>performed some more on the kids for research or
>surveillance. This was most probably a pelvic
>procedure.

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