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Subject: the Texas aces Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 01:49:27 03/12/25 Wed Author Host/IP: NoHost/76.93.73.16 Which is your favorite? WAs there a lot of backlash with Texas winning 5 years in a row? How did Texas do it [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date The next Miss Texas did not make the cut but I have to telll you, it did not shock me. Her evening gown was SHOCKINGLY bad for the time period and her styling read "cool 40 year old mom" (NT) No name (NoHost/216.125.37.210) 14:03:46 03/12/25 Wed What did you think of the gown worn by TX at USA last year? (NT) -- No name, 16:18:32 03/12/25 Wed (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) The next Miss Texas did make the cut. Stephanie Kuehne was in the top 10. You are right that it was one of the worst evening gowns in Miss USA history. (NT) -- No name, 18:05:56 03/12/25 Wed (209-193-33-10.static.acsalaska.net/209.193.33.10) with that gown IDK how she made the top 10 just ugly gown (NT) -- No name, 16:45:20 03/16/25 Sun (syn-076-093-073-016.res.spectrum.com/76.93.73.16) She made the top 12, they had 12 semi-finalists in 1990 (NT) -- No name, 17:30:47 03/17/25 Mon (bras-base-kntaon1621w-grc-26-184-148-39-59.dsl.bell.ca/184.148.39.59) Oh I liked her evening gown and didn't realize it was so hated! Sounds like this will be an unpopular opinion but I actually had Stephanie 2nd after semi-final competition, behind Georgia's Brenda Leithleiter and just above Gina Tolleson. I didn't get Carole Gist at Miss USA, but she was a vision at Miss Universe and she was my winner there. (NT) -- Left-Brain Pageant Fan, 23:12:46 03/13/25 Thu (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) That was a tough year for the finalists. New Jersey nailed her response to the Top 6 question. I had Miss Alaska making the Top 3, but her answer was weak during the Top 6 OSQ period. Plus, her gown wasn't attractive enough which might have made the difference. Later, Gina Tolleson became Miss World if I remember. (NT) -- no name, 12:45:05 03/20/25 Thu (ip72-220-130-86.sd.sd.cox.net/72.220.130.86) They hired a couple of guys called GuyRex who were experts at training beauty pageant contestants. They also worked with California queens. One of them has since passed on. In the same way, Hispanic countries trained their winners for a long time preparing them in all phases for the competitions. (NT) no name (ip72-220-130-86.sd.sd.cox.net/72.220.130.86) 14:59:25 03/12/25 Wed I think that both of these men have died. They were the best during their days in the pageant world. (NT) -- No name, 20:27:09 03/12/25 Wed (NoHost/172.56.92.173) There is a wonderful book called The Pink Dress written by Jane Little. She was the first ever GuyRex girl. I recently finished reading it and loved every second of it. I am early 30s so these guys and era in pageantry I was unfamiliar with. (NT) -- No name, 23:25:35 03/12/25 Wed (NoHost/172.56.241.176) I'm assuming that Jane Little was before Kim Tomes, Miss USA 1977 who I think was their first national titleholder. Did Jane Little win a title? (NT) -- No name, 03:12:34 03/13/25 Thu (240.sub-174-210-67.myvzw.com/174.210.67.240) Jane Little was the first Miss El Paso (TX-MAO) under GuyRex. In her book, she wrote that she also represented El Paso at TX-USA, won both swimsuit and photogenic but didn't make the cut because her interview wasn't what the judges were looking for. The winner, Susan Peters, won Miss Photogenic at Miss USA 1972 but didn't make the cut. (NT) -- No name, 23:37:22 03/13/25 Thu (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) I wonder if her Miss TX - MAO is on Pageants Hey Day? I know there are some old Miss TX videos from the early 70's. (NT) -- No name, 01:49:01 03/14/25 Fri (240.sub-174-210-67.myvzw.com/174.210.67.240) If so, she didn't make Top 10, claims that B. Don cut her in favor of another contestant and that he made it up to GuyRex by putting them on the MTO board. Some of what she writes is highly questionable but it still makes for an interesting read. (NT) -- No name, 03:44:38 03/15/25 Sat (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) You are correct. I think Rex sadly had AIDS and Guy had cancer (?) It was sad when both of them died -- No name, 23:44:27 03/15/25 Sat (NoHost/35.150.243.209) This reminds of The Hollywood Kids who had a site talking about celebrities One of them died of Aids. I couldn't tell which one, the blond or the brunet. (NT) -- So many celebrities also died of Covid. Much too soon., 19:38:07 03/16/25 Sun (ip72-220-130-86.sd.sd.cox.net/72.220.130.86) Rex did not have AIDS. I've been HIV positive since 1991, which was the same year basketballer Magic Johnson was diagnosed. We both are alive and well, and it's been 34 years. Rex Holt died of a heart attack at the age of 74 in 2015. (NT) -- No name, 19:30:01 03/17/25 Mon (c-98-41-68-45.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/98.41.68.45) Good Luck to you- my dear. It is good to see long term AIDS survivors. It's not the death sentence it used to be ((((HUGS)))) (NT) -- No name, 23:46:09 04/02/25 Wed (syn-047-039-190-252.res.spectrum.com/47.39.190.252) Folks above are correct, sure, they had the right personnel to train them hard - but still, 5 winners in a row is such an interesting statistical aberration. Even Venezuela only managed 2 in a row at Miss Universe! In my opinion, Christy Fitchtner (1986), Courtney Gibbs (1988) and Gretchen Polhemus (1989) were clear, runaway victories. I would have gone with Diane Martin of Arizona in 1987 over Michelle Royer, but Michelle is still one of my Top 10 ever Miss USAs and I thought she should have won Miss Universe that year. The only one I didn't understand was Laura Herring in 1985, though ironically she's one of the few Miss USAs to ever bridge the gap between my two interests - film and pageantry! She was in one of the greatest avant garde films of all time - David Lynch's 'Mulholland Dr' in 2001. (NT) Left-Brain Pageant Fan (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) 23:07:29 03/13/25 Thu Laura Herring won over Miss New Mexico, the 1st r/u. The previous year, Miss New Mexico won Miss USA. I too, thought Miss NM should have won. Miss Herring did a brief bid for fame in the movies. (NT) -- The 1st r/u to Christy Fitchner was Halle Berry, Miss Ohio who later won an Emmy and an Oscar., 01:12:37 03/14/25 Fri (ip72-220-130-86.sd.sd.cox.net/72.220.130.86) I thought it was a pretty weak Top 10... My favorites in the Top 10 were actually Hawaii (didn't even make Top 5) and Louisiana (3RU), but no one was super exciting to me. (NT) -- Left-Brain Pageant Fan, 03:35:54 03/14/25 Fri (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) How did GuyRex choose the girls they worked with? I'm sure with their record they didn't just accept walkins. (NT) -- No name, 13:11:35 03/14/25 Fri (178.sub-174-247-13.myvzw.com/174.247.13.178) I'm guessing they had the luxury of choosing warmer sash states for easier success. Also, states that are known for swimsuit competitions. (NT) -- Miss the old days., 02:52:42 03/15/25 Sat (ip72-220-130-86.sd.sd.cox.net/72.220.130.86) Actually, GuyRex didn't recruit contestants (for example, former runners-ups) as only Gretchen had been 2nd r-up the year before she won. Laura, Christy, Michelle and Courtney were basically newbies, having only competed in maybe one other pageant (Michelle in MAO, for example). Basically, GuyRex took whoever the judges gave them, then spent six months grooming her for nationals. (Courtney told me she learned "a book's worth" about herself during those six months.) Guy and Rex were the real deal. (NT) -- No name, 04:13:14 03/15/25 Sat (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) Is this how Osmel worked in Venezuela, also? Basically, would he sit on judging panels or would he just transform the girl he was given? I'm not trying to be controversial - I to be honest have no issues with a national director sitting on a judging panel if they're votes only count as much as all other members of the panel - just curious! (NT) -- Left-Brain Pageant Fan, 15:34:37 03/15/25 Sat (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) It was publicized that Venezuela trained their contestants as did Colombia, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic and more. They were especially trained for possible OSQs. (NT) -- The downer for some people is that they graduated to walking like streetwalkers., 15:46:07 03/15/25 Sat (ip72-220-130-86.sd.sd.cox.net/72.220.130.86) Did everyone win on their first try? Except Gretchen? (NT) No name (206.sub-174-193-196.myvzw.com/174.193.196.206) 22:00:52 03/15/25 Sat It seems to me that Christy had competed at Teen TX USA. (NT) -- No name, 22:06:26 03/15/25 Sat (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) what year did Christy do teen? (NT) -- No name, 16:52:09 03/16/25 Sun (NoHost/76.93.73.16) I doubt it because in 1983 she was 19 (NT) -- No name, 20:15:06 03/17/25 Mon (206.sub-174-193-196.myvzw.com/174.193.196.206) She actually was a runner in CT the year before she won TX Usa (NT) -- No name, 15:41:39 03/19/25 Wed (NoHost/75.98.19.152) Thank you, I believe it. I couldn't remember whether she competed once in Teen TX or if it was in CT. (NT) -- No name, 22:02:09 03/19/25 Wed (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) Christy competed at Miss Texas USA in 1983. Watch the Youtube video. (NT) -- Pageant Fan, 15:44:03 04/03/25 Thu (NoHost/24.237.236.1) Don't forget they would wine and dine Usa judges at the ranch before the pageant. Allegedly. (NT) . (NoHost/172.59.112.229) 22:08:57 03/15/25 Sat What "ranch" do you mean? Guy and Rex lived in town. (NT) -- No name, 16:38:40 03/16/25 Sun (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) After Guy/Rex, Al and Gail Clark (The Crystal Group) had the franchise-anyone know why they gave it up? No name (NoHost/35.150.243.209) 19:48:13 03/16/25 Sun Al was ill, and then passed away. They were very professional. Loved Guy and Rex. Both deceased. Wonderful people. (NT) -- No name, 15:02:24 03/17/25 Mon (c-98-41-68-45.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/98.41.68.45)