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Subject: More Painful and Less Embarrassing, or More Embarrassing and Less Painful?


Author:
Rebecca
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Date Posted: 13:42:32 06/16/24 Sun

When I was a girl during a week at my aunt and uncle’s beach house, one of the days 5 of us kids went home from the beach early. We were instructed to stay at the house until the rest of the family returned, which we all disobeyed to go to the arcade down the street which was specifically forbidden without adult supervision. It was assumed the rest of the family would remain at the beach until sundown per usual, but even though we spent less than an hour at the arcade we were confronted immediately upon return.

I foolishly believed that my 17 and 15 year old cousins John and Brenda would get full responsibility, but we were all scolded harshly and looking back that was justified. I was 11 years old and fully knew better. So did my 13 year old cousin Noah and even my 10 year old cousin Keith. We all made a conscious, defiant decision. We also knew what the punishment was for direct disobedience, and that was a spanking. I knew from the moment we were caught that my father, who was there at the house as well, would probably spank me but when the specifics of the punishment were announced I think we all went weak in the knees.

The thing about Aunt Miriam and Uncle Bill was within the family, they believed in making an example out of children who misbehaved and believed in using a deliberate and measured amount of embarrassment as part of punishment. It was a rare occurrence, but we all knew about it. What we did might not sound too serious, but they took disobedience very seriously and they declared that we were going to each be spanked in the living room as a deterrent to the other 7 kids. Aunt Miriam said the decision would be up to my father in my case, but she told my 3 older cousins that she would be seeking permission from their parents, and the parents of the children who were going to witness, to have them spanked bare bottom in full view of the family. Finally, she turned to the youngest of us 5 condemned, her 10 year old son Keith, and told him that regardless of the way the rest of us were punished, he was going to be spanked naked from the waist down in front of his sisters and cousins.

He didn’t look surprised, he just looked like he was going to cry. I, on the other hand, was taken by surprised when my father said he was going to spank me the same way. I was no stranger to bare bottom spankings, but he was going to make me take off my pants and underwear in front of all my cousins. He said that he would respect how my aunt and uncle wanted me punished while staying in their house. I tried to protest that boys would be watching but dad confirmed he was fully aware, and threatened to make it 24 spanks instead of 12 so I shut up, blushed, and tried to hold back the tears. I’m still ashamed to this day, but I wasn’t as strong as my younger cousin and soon started crying in shame. I remember wondering why did he have to make me take off my underwear?? Why did this have to be so public? I remember being especially horrified my cousin Jacob, 12 at the time and a (friendly) rival, was going to see between my legs.

John and Brenda were sentenced to the belt, but were deemed too old at 17 and 15 to be given a bare bottom spanking in front of opposite sex family, to the great disappointment particularly of my Aunt Miriam who didn’t find any indecency as long as their nakedness was kept exposed only to family members. My 13 year old cousin Noah was not so lucky. His mother gave full permission and apparently support for his pants and underwear to come off for a bare bottom spanking in front of the family. 2 of the 3 girls who were going to watch were Aunt Miriam’s daughters so only one child’s parents needed to give consent that their daughter would inevitably see her cousin’s genitals. This was deemed indecent for John, but allowed for Noah despite being 13 because Noah visibly had not hit puberty yet. Noah protested vehemently, and excessively in the mind of his aunt and uncle, turning his originally prescribed 14 spanks into 30 before he accepted defeat and stopped making it worse for himself. He didn’t start crying, but I remember a tear streamed down his furiously blushing cheek. I was horrified to the point of tears that my naked lower half was going to be on display, I can’t imagine the shame Noah felt knowing all his cousins were going to see his penis.

In the end, Keith, myself, and Noah one by one all had to strip naked below the waist and submit to a bare bottom hand spanking in front of the rest of the family. The pain combined with the public humiliation caused tears to flow freely from all of us. Keith put up no fight and let the tears flow naturally while Uncle Bill. Knowing the other kids saw my private parts made me start crying before my dad even started spanking me and tears were plentiful by the end. Noah’s emotions completely erupted after less than 10 spanks from Aunt Miriam. He tried to grit his teeth and take the spanking like a man, but as everyone had now clearly seen, Noah was far from a man. His involuntary crying progressed into sobbing and finally pathetic wailing I will never forget. He was shown no mercy, and Aunt Miriam’s hand smacked Noah’s bare bottom 30 very hard times.

We snapped out of crying as we watched our older cousins belted. They were allowed to keep their underwear on, but this offered them no protection and they were both howling in pain after 10 strokes. They were both then taken behind closed doors and belted 10 more times on their bare ass to the point of roaring. I will never forget the feeling of shame having to take off my panties in front of my cousins, but I considered myself lucky to have been spared the belt while listening to John and Brenda scream in pain. I think Noah even might have realized having his prepubescent nakedness exposed at age 13, even in front of the girls, was not the worst case scenario for him.

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[> Subject: Re: More Painful and Less Embarrassing, or More Embarrassing and Less Painful?


Author:
Wondering-supportive
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Date Posted: 14:37:27 06/16/24 Sun

Obviously the public spankings you watched and the one you received left quite the impression on you as an 11 year old. It appears though that you were not even back then a stranger to bare bottom spankings since your dad insisted that you be spanked naked from the waist down.

My question is was the public spanking you received different from how you were normally punished but for the public aspect of the spanking? And what continuing effect or impact if any would you say the way you were spanked colored your perception on spanking now that you are an adult? Are you, for instances, pro or anti-spanking now and would you punish or support it the same way as you were at 11 if circumstances warranted?

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Rebecca to Wondering-Supportive
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Date Posted: 22:09:02 06/16/24 Sun

Growing up my dad spanked quite sparingly. Much, much less than he was spanked. There were a few times he would smack my fully clothed bottom a few times which either served as a ‘last warning’ or sometimes would signal a real punishment spanking was in store. I only received about a dozen actual punishment spankings in my childhood, all before I turned 13, and they came in 2 forms: about half I was allowed to keep my underwear on, and the other half were bare bottom spankings. Dad only ever used his open hand, never once an implement of any kind. We both knew full well his hand was sufficiently painful, even over panties. Just 10 hand snacks was plenty to make me cry. So no, there was nothing else different about the way this spanking was administered other than my cousins were watching. One time my dad spanked me in front of my friend Brett from school when we were both 9 but it was over panties, although a bare bottom spanking was threatened.

You ask such a good question that has really made me think. I can tell you this, I have only given 4 spankings in my life as a babysitter when I was in college, because I was asked directly as part of the job. Now as a mother with an 8 year old son who has never been and never will be spanked, I think those spankings influenced my attitude on the subject more than me being on the receiving end as a child. It was so deeply unpleasant having to do that, and I’m sure recalling how it made me feel as a kid on the receiving end contributed to how I felt inflicting the same punishment.

It’s a bit confusing because I don’t think I ever was spanked unjustly. Yes it was mortifying having to bare my genitals for a public bare bottom spanking but my dad never took any pleasure in spanking me, least of all that occasion. He really felt he had no choice, especially with the pressure from the other parents, and I think he did his best raising me all by himself. I never forgot the shame from that day, which I’m sure will make people feel sorry for me, and no the ends don’t justify the means but that punishment did make me innately ashamed of lying and disobedience. I could have been granted modesty but the difference in seriousness between a pants down spanking and a bare ass spanking was massive. It left no doubt that my father, who I always greatly respected, was disappointed in me and what I had done was shameful.

In that moment it was unspeakably embarrassing that my father ordered a bare bottom spanking in front of my cousins, knowing full well that they would all see my nakedness, but now looking back: my cousins all saw my vulva one time. At least my dad never used anything but his hand on me. I’m thankful at least for that. It was just such a different time… now countries are completely outlawing spanking and I know I’ll be criticized for saying this but: more power to them. In my country it’s still legal however, but I would only support it in extreme, absolute last resort situations. Physical contact between my son and I, as well as between my son and his father is strictly affectionate and nurturing, and will never be anything other than that. Times have changed immensely.

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Wondering-supportive
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Date Posted: 14:50:06 06/18/24 Tue

You and your dad appear to be an exceptional to the rule. Spanking tends to be generational. Parents who spank were spanked and their children often spank their children. Your dad spanked less than he was spanked and spankings you administer and experienced left you with a distaste for spanking anyone as an adult, particularly your own child. So my read is that unlike many there was and is no erotic aspect to spanking in your life. Indeed, your response is to primarily view spankings as unnecessary. That raise one other question for me: What brought you to this spanking site? I note that in your initial post you did not condemn spanking as such but rather simply related your own experience. Why did you share and what if anything did you expect from others by way of their replies?

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Rebecca
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Date Posted: 16:29:47 06/29/24 Sat

I’m not sure what brought me here originally but I’ve been following the posts for a long time. I wrote my recollection because I had been meaning to express it for many years but never had a proper forum to do so. I found it therapeutic in a way. I was just curious if people had experienced something similar in their upbringing, namely being spanked naked from the waist down in front of family members, particularly opposite sex family members, at an age where that would produce unspeakable levels of embarrassment. I was interested if anyone had experienced the same method of punishment with the exposure and humiliation being a deliberated, openly acknowledged part of the punishment like I experienced or rather just a byproduct. I was wondering if people would rather have experienced this as opposed to being spanked with an implement to the point of howling in pain. The replies have been interesting. While I consider myself lucky to have been spanked by hand despite my cousins seeing my bald vulva, most people seem to think this was worse than if I was belted with my modesty protected. The punishment was even labeled by one person as emotional abuse, which I don’t even disagree with especially in the case of my cousin Noah. But I genuinely believe all spanking to be abusive in some form, by its very nature. Why is an emotionally abusive spanking any worse than a physically abusive one? I know most people here will argue it isn’t physical abuse, but I’m just going to be arrogant and let them know… it is. Even one swat on a clothed bottom is just watered down physical abuse.

It is true that there isn’t an erotic component to spanking in my life. However, you mentioning this makes me want to confess one thing I find a bit shameful: I was disappointed when I found out I wasn’t going to see my older cousin John take off his underwear. I was excited that I might see his penis, and I was disappointed when I found out I wasn’t going to. So there was a very slightly erotic component to that punishment that still produces strange butterflies in my stomach when I think about it. I do wonder if he would have traded the pain he felt for humiliation and embarrassment instead.

Forgive me for taking so long to reply, at first I didn’t even notice you had responded and then I had to think long and hard about my answer.

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Ross
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Date Posted: 15:50:19 06/16/24 Sun

Shame is an important part of a spanking. One should feel shame for the misbehavior. But was it really necessary to go this far? If you all just got the same spankings out of sight from one another, would you not have learned the lesson? Were you really bad kids who could only learn by seeing each other spanked naked, and then have to live with that shameful memory the rest of your lives?

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Pamela Jane
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Date Posted: 06:25:49 06/17/24 Mon

I responded to this thread on another forum. The embarrassment and shame of having someone other than mom and dad, which is bad enough, present cannot be emphasized enough. This happened to me and the embarrassment and shame is still strong as ever even though the actual pain of that spanking has long since faded. It was my uncle who was watching which was now close to a year ago. No, I still cannot oand will not face him. IN this case, he wasn't supposed to be watching which makes it even worse.

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Ross
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Date Posted: 09:31:08 06/17/24 Mon

I'm sorry that happened to you. Spanking is a very interesting subject to me, but it's painful to read when people are emotionally injured by it. And having grown up with it, I know the feelings of shame run far deeper than they should when others besides mom or dad see the punishment. You really never forget it. Relationships can even be destroyed.

I guess your uncle wasn't aware of the pain he was leaving you with. Most important, don't blame yourself.

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Pamela Jane to Ross
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Date Posted: 11:23:39 06/17/24 Mon

THank you for the encouragement. I don't blame myself. Mom and dad didn't make sure the door was closed. It's just us three in the house so leaving the door open is no big deal, usually. It was an ovsesight. Mom and dad were upset with him. It's mom's brother. He knew he shouldn't be up there. He has apologized but still the embarrassment and shame knowing he saw EVERYTHING is just awful.

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Ross
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Date Posted: 05:13:00 06/18/24 Tue

When I was a teenager, if a girl in the house was getting a spanking, I think I would have tried to sneak a peek if at all possible. It seems your uncle was acting immature, and maybe allowed his curiosity to cloud his better judgment. Maybe he saw more that he expected to see. In addition to your awful feelings, it is too bad he had to learn from his mistake and ruin any relationship he might have with his niece. I hope your embarrassment will fade over time, and that you will be able be around your uncle, but I know how shame can be too much to be forgotten.

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Pamela Jane to Ross
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Date Posted: 06:57:50 06/18/24 Tue

Dear Ross,
Actually, talking about this here is a big help. THank you for responding. I understand what you are saying. My uncle is in his early 50's so he isn't a teenager any more. He certainly allowed his curiosity to get the better of him. He knew darn well that I was going to be punished and he knew my parents spank because he and mom also were spanked. What he probably didn't know was that dad uses a leather strap and I get it on the bare so yes, he probably didn't expect to see what he saw. From what mom told me they were spanked in private in their rooms sometimes over underwear, other times on the bare. Grandpa had a wide leather belt. I think my shame will fade over time and I don't see our relationship as forever damaged. Like I said, he has apologized so he knows he messed up.

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Rebecca
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Date Posted: 16:33:37 06/29/24 Sat

I don’t think spanking us in any way was actually necessary to teach us a lesson, but the adults believed it had to be done and my aunt and uncle were not afraid to make embarrassment part of the punishment. It’s true that I have this shameful memory for the rest of my life, but I do believe I got off easy with my spanking being by hand despite having my naked lower half exposed.

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