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Date Posted: 16:45:12 01/26/24 Fri
Author: Jeff
Subject: Re: Introducing our two sons (13yo, 15yo) to diaper discipline
In reply to: Derek (Dad) 's message, "Introducing our two sons (13yo, 15yo) to diaper discipline" on 09:59:16 01/26/24 Fri

>My wife and I have read about diaper discipline for a
>few years now, but never tried it out. We didn't have
>many behavioural problems with our two boys (at least,
>none that couldn't be solved with the usual spanking
>and grounding). But recently things have changed. Our
>15yo (Peter) was found selling cigarettes from his bag
>at school. We don't know where he got them from, but
>we were mortified. Worse, he came home from a party
>one day last month, clearly drunk. No amount of
>talking or punishment seemed to make him show remorse.
>He just complained constantly that we were being bad
>parents and that we should be giving him more freedom
>and letting him experiment. We told him that we
>weren't going to let him put himself in danger selling
>cigarettes and getting drunk at parties. Who knows
>what sort of boys he's been hanging out with.
>
>Unfortunately, our 13yo (Chase) has picked up some bad
>habits from his big brother. He used to be so well
>behaved, but now he talks back constantly and ignores
>our instructions. We're at our wits end dealing with
>these boys. We know that boys will be boys, but no
>amount of punishment seems to work on them anymore.
>Add in that both boys have been doing worse and worse
>at school, my wife and I realised something needed to
>be done.
>
>About two weeks ago, my wife and I snapped. Chase
>threw a temper tantrum because we didn't get him the
>right game for his Nintendo. After all him and his
>brother have put us through, we decided something
>drastic needed to change. As I mentioned, my wife and
>I have read about diaper discipline for a few years
>now, so after a serious discussion that night, we
>decided it was the only way forward. The next morning
>(Saturday), we called our boys into the living room.
>We informed them that since they had both been acting
>so immaturely and treating us so disrespectfully, that
>we would be taking away their toilet privileges and
>putting them back in diapers full-time. No 'if's, no
>'but's, both boys now have to wear diapers 24/7, both
>boys have to use them to pee and poop, and both boys
>have to wait patiently until a parent is available to
>change them. They are no longer permitted to use the
>toilet under any circumstances. Both boys have to
>remain naked at home other than their diaper. This is
>mostly for practicality - we can make sure they're
>wearing their diapers, easily see if they've wet
>themselves, and so on. But it also has the benefit of
>adding some additional humiliation. Chase in
>particular is quite self-conscious about his body, so
>we hope being kept topless will have a good effect on
>him. Both boys are now fed a baby-appropriate diet.
>Gone are the expensive (and never appreciated) steaks
>and pizzas they used to get, from now they'll learn to
>love eating mushy peas, fruit puree, and milk with
>every meal. We've taken away both boys' phones and
>Nintendos. They don't need them. They're more than
>welcome to play football or basketball out in the yard
>after school, or take up drawing or music (Chase
>already plays guitar, we've been encouraging him to
>play more). Or invite friends over - but we made it
>clear that the diapers don't come off (nor do they get
>to wear clothes) just because guests are present. Of
>course they still wear clothes at school, we cannot
>avoid that, but they now have to wear a diaper under
>their clothes.
>
>They threw a fit when we told them. Peter looked like
>he'd seen a ghost. They told us we were the worst
>parents ever, and that they'd be calling social
>services, and so on and so on. But after a stern
>talking to, both boys were stripped, spanked, and put
>into their first of many diapers. We gave them an
>ultimatum: every 12 months we would review their
>behaviour and school grades individually. If
>satisfactory, we would consider restoring their toilet
>privileges and let them wear normal clothes again. So
>far, we haven't seen any remorse - we're still in the
>'sulking' phase. The boys' first week diapered at
>school was tough, they told us that by the end of the
>day the whole school knew they were wearing diapers
>under their pants (it's hard to miss the bulge and
>crinkling sound), and that they they've been bullied
>ever since. I'm sure the teasing will die down soon
>enough though.
>
>Our set-up is pretty basic at the moment. We usually
>change both boys at the same time on the kitchen
>table. Both boys were very embarassed at first about
>getting into diaper position and letting Mom and Dad
>see their penises and anuses on full display. To be
>fair, we hadn't quite realised either just how
>humiliating and revealing the diaper position would
>be, but we think the embarassment just adds to the
>punishment. It's hard for Peter in particular - at 15
>he thinks of himself as a 'big boy', but now my wife
>likes to play with his (not so big) penis while
>changing his diaper.
>
>I think I've written enough for now, but I want to
>keep updating you all here on our adventure going
>forwards. It's still early days - Chase and Peter are
>still getting over the shock of having to piss and
>shit themselves when they feel the urge to go. We put
>them on some very mild laxatives at first so that they
>would learn not to hold it in, but even after only 2
>weeks they've learned to just go when they need to go,
>even if they have to wait a few hours to be changed.
>
>There seem to be a lot of experienced diaper
>discipliners on this forum, so please do let me know
>if you have any tips or advice for us, or even just
>any similar experience diapering young teenage boys!
>My wife and I are excited to give this a go and see
>how it can help our boys, and we want to do everything
>as correctly as possible. We'd love to hear from you
>all. :)

Wow, sounds like you really hit the ground running. Growing up, I sort of got the impression it was illegal to wear diapers after you were a baby. Like it felt ingrained that even if they didnt look uncomfortable, you were supposed to hate them anyways and never use them again.
So it's interesting to hear from other perspectives who have no hangups about using diapers well after potty training. What did you think when you first read about diaper discipline, did it surprise you or sound like something you could ever fathom doing? I'm guessing the kids had never heard of the idea or known anyone else to get it until you sprung it on them. What kind of diapers did you use and how did you acquire them so fast?
I do hope by now the other kids at school are more understanding. Did you talk to the school ahead of time or make arrangements where they can go get changed?
I suspect that without being allowed to wear anything over their diapers at home, they won't want to invite anyone over. I do think they should still see friends and interact with other kids their age, just obviously not the ones they smoked with and got drunk. Do you have any close family friends or kids from school you know the parents well, and could set up a playdate. Make sure the friends know that while respectfully asking questions is allowed, teasing is not. You dont want them to become isolated and withdrawn. They should still do most of the stuff teens their age do, minus the parts that got them in trouble.
Hopefully, they get over the shock and sulking phase soon, realize it isnt the end of the world for them and be more obedient. Im sure you've reassured them you love them both very much and given lots of cuddles but you could also offer a night out for pizza or a time at their favorite activity center for cooperating with their diaper changes. I am curious why you decided to start this for 12 whole months before they get a chance to earn potty privileges back. That has to feel like an eternity to kids that age and I wonder if a shorter time might give them more encouragement to shape up.
There isn't necesarily a most correct way but I think you definitely want them to feel like their life isnt over, they just have a constant reminder to behave on their butts, and while you now will spend more time with them, they should feel open to share more of what they're feeling or reflect on why they were acting out so much recently.

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