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Date Posted: 11:55:01 07/02/24 Tue
Author: Simple and equitable
Subject: Let’s give the adults the dignity they deserve. All adult-specific competitions needs to be dropped and age groups need to be expanded.

CLRG should standardize ALL dancers under a single set of grade and championship levels and have age groups that reflect ALL dancers. There should be a single progression as follows: beginner, advanced beginner, novice, prizewinner, preliminary championship, and open championship. Those are the only categories available to every dancer who wishes to compete.

The same goes for regional competitions, national competitions, all-Irelands, and worlds. Single-age age groups up to under 20, then under 25, under 30, under 40, and 40 and over.

This would standardize competitions worldwide and give EVERY dancer the opportunity to qualify for the highest level of competition. The expanded age groups would help alleviate stylistic differences between adult dancers who started as children and those who started as adults. Age groups are the only equalizer you need.

The solution of having adults and advanced adults doesn’t solve anything. Not only does it block dancers from having the opportunity to qualify for worlds, it also forces dancers who are decades in age apart to compete against each other.

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Adults 🙄 (NT) -- Give an inch they want a foot., 12:21:51 07/02/24 Tue
- what the heck (NT) -- ?, 12:48:04 07/02/24 Tue
- dm -- dm, 15:30:34 07/02/24 Tue
- Relax, Karen. Adults aren’t a threat to your child dancer. Nothing weird about offering an adult category or league for any sport. (NT) -- Not your concern, 19:12:02 07/02/24 Tue
hear hear -- adult dancer, 13:01:50 07/02/24 Tue
- There is absolutely a point... -- Super-Senior, 13:01:47 07/13/24 Sat
Yep this is what open platform does. CLRG are in no position to treat adults like dirt Adults have money (more) -- H, 15:07:20 07/02/24 Tue
- I never noticed a qualification for AI I always thought anyone could go … it’s called Sr Ladies and Sr Men (NT) -- ., 15:38:28 07/02/24 Tue
  - Yes senior open with NO age groups. Dancers retire out of it so early. Not suggesting beginners should be at worlds (more) -- H, 16:13:10 07/02/24 Tue
Yep this is what open platform does. CLRG are in no position to treat adults like dirt Adults have money (more) -- H, 16:07:41 07/02/24 Tue
Multiple regions in the US have tied themselves in knots trying to make adult competitions work and this has only confused and alienated adult dancers. -- inside, 19:31:46 07/02/24 Tue
There aren’t enough dancers to warrant that many adult splits (NT) -- …, 02:36:57 07/03/24 Wed
- Start with 1-2, Under 25 and then Over 25 and an Over 35 if needed. Registrations will determine. Some US regions have loads, UK and Ireland don't foster any adult growth and need to start at the beginning (NT) -- k, 05:29:26 07/03/24 Wed
- build it and they will come -- out of 'retirement' or w/e, 06:14:17 07/03/24 Wed
- 95 in adults, 52 in advanced adults, 219 in senior ladies, and 25 in senior men at NAIDC. Massive numbers. -- The market is there., 06:35:44 07/03/24 Wed
You're aware that the rest of the world doesn't use the B, AB, N, PW, PC, OC grade path, aren't you? This isn't quite the easy solution you think it is. (NT) -- ., 06:19:56 07/03/24 Wed
- Then CLRG should standardize all levels worldwide and stipulate how you progress through the levels. The main point is that you only need one level progression for all dancers and expand the age groups. (NT) -- Extremely simple solution, 06:38:48 07/03/24 Wed
- Yeah they use bun, tus, mean or beginner, primary, intermediate what a huge difference they'll never figure it out (NT) -- t, 06:47:19 07/03/24 Wed
  - Haha I thought the same thing. How ever shall the know!? (NT) -- Silly, 08:11:05 07/03/24 Wed
This is one of the most intelligent posts; all dancers are regardless of age are competitors who practice their art. Give them the recognition they deserve. The older competitors are an inspiration to the entire dance community (NT) -- ID, 08:07:02 07/03/24 Wed
The standard isn't there, and there is no qualification... -- meh, 09:52:00 07/03/24 Wed
- The standard doesn't change over night -- It takes time, 10:34:12 07/03/24 Wed
  - Excellent points. And we can’t forget that many of the senior ladies who are already recalling and medalling at worlds are old enough to be in these expanded age groups. -- Standard would already be high, 14:09:57 07/03/24 Wed
    - Problem is this idea pushes the ‘adult’ to the side -- ., 04:14:56 07/04/24 Thu
      - It's frustrating that the teens who are working their way through the grade levels, into prelim, and up into open would love to go to nationals but it must be earned, but the adults get these opportunities handed to them and the squeaky wheels want their cake but don't want to compete against people who are. better than them (NT) -- Giving some adults a bad rep, 05:44:21 07/04/24 Thu
        I'd agree with this. Open platform adults work their way through levels same as the kids and have the same opportunities. Adult beginners start in beginners etc. (NT) -- Hard to take it away now, 06:53:48 07/04/24 Thu
        But the teens and senior ladies competitions at nationals are qualifiers, -- the adult competitions are not, 08:58:15 07/04/24 Thu

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