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Date Posted: 20:20:57 11/04/07 Sun
Author: Phil
Author Host/IP: 71-223-21-99.phnx.qwest.net / 71.223.21.99
Subject: Re: Yes, I agree with much of this...
In reply to: Catie 's message, "I agree" on 17:31:59 11/04/07 Sun

But I always felt that as a Catholic youngster, much of my contact with God was thru the sacraments, man-made rules, priests and the physical Church who had some 'mystical power' to act as an intermediary btwn myself and God. That would include the forgiveness of sins.

When I was saved some 20 yrs ago, I delighted in my personal relationship with God and the fellowship I rcvd with other like-minded Christians. Altho I'm sounding critical, I'm still thankful for my Catholic education, as much of it remains in the realm of what I still believe. Thus, doctrinally, I still find many of the Church's teachings and policies sound.

Thirdly, you speak of 'free will' Joan. I have a 100 questions for that but will settle for a couple. First of all, what choice does a baby have to be baptized and what is the sig'nce of that? Where is free will there? It seems mostly ceremonial to me, albeit a wonderful symbolic gesture. And if God is all-knowing and omni-present how can he not know who will be 'saved' and who will be headed in the other direction? If you don't have a direct answer for that, I will understand, given that Christendom has been debated that for over 500 yrs now. Nevertheless, I anxiously await your answer...

Finally, I have to re-iterate that Catie is right. There is a division w/in Prot'sm itself as to what the concept of 'saved' means. What I stated was just my belief, but there are many who hold the same opinion as me. And I'm not 'stuck' on anything Joan, having been grounded both in Catholicsm and Prot'sm teachings and thought. LoL. That was rather condescending Dear, but you're forgiven. See how ez it it! LoL

Take care, God Bless,

Phil from cool AZ

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