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Date Posted: 13:48:39 08/08/07 Wed
Author: Neysa
Author Host/IP: user-2inik17.dialup.mindspring.com / 165.121.80.39
Subject: Joan.......
In reply to: Joan 's message, "Is the Bible the only source of authority?" on 03:45:17 08/08/07 Wed

I am not talking about sin. Many think that papal infallibility means that the pope cannot sin! We all know the pope sins. As have all the past popes as well. That is NOT what I am talking about when I talk about papal infallibility.

When I talk about papal infallibility I'm talking about the teachings of the faith by the pope. It means that the pope's teachings ( dogma) are without error. That they are the absolute truth. It is believed that the pope receives divine enlightenment from the Holy Spirit. I say that the pope cannot always be correct and his teachings are not the absolute truth. There can be error in his teachings. Even though he does get help from the Holy Spirit. The pope is only human. No human is without error.

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[> [> Re: Joan....... -- Joan, 05:27:25 08/09/07 Thu [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

Neysa, I'm beginning to think that you aren't really Catholic. :-) Are you thinking of switching denominations? There seems to be very little in Catholicism that you actually believe.

It's not just the Pope that makes these ex cathedra statements. A lot of people think that the Pope decides something and so it's so. Actually, several bishops work together with the Pope on these things.

Joan

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[> [> [> Re: Joan....... -- Neysa, 09:30:59 08/09/07 Thu [1] (user-38lci5j.dialup.mindspring.com/209.86.72.179)

There are a lot of Catholics who do not believe in everything the Cathoilic Church teaches, but that doesn't mean they have to go and join another denomination. I was born a Catholic, and I will die a Catholic ! I am not leaving my Catholic Church, even though I don't believe in everything it teaches.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Joan....... -- Joan, 04:18:31 08/11/07 Sat [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

I'm not asking to challenge you but to understand.

There seems to be *very* little in Catholicism that you actually do believe. What is it about Catholicism that attracts you? (other than being born Catholic)

Joan

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[> [> Re: Joan, I'm afraid that's typical... -- Phil from AZ, 06:45:37 08/09/07 Thu [1] (71-223-15-110.phnx.qwest.net/71.223.15.110)

...of nearly all Catholics I know. They state that they are Catholic and then proceed to claim that they don't believe in Papal Infall'ty, the Church's stance on birth control, the composition of the College of Cardinals, that priests should not be married, and on and on. Yet they continue to belong to the Catholic Church.

This is a theme that I find all too common, and Neysa's stance on Papal Infall'ty is merely typical of what the vast maj'ty of English-speaking Catholics believe. She's just being honest by stating it, that's all.

Take care, God Bless,

Phil from AZ

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