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Date Posted: 05:03:57 08/13/07 Mon
Author: catie
Author Host/IP: h32.237.213.151.ip.alltel.net / 151.213.237.32
Subject: Joan & Neysa
In reply to: Joan 's message, "OK, back to our regularly scheduled program" on 04:03:42 08/12/07 Sun

Although what struck me most when reading your posts about this, was that the amount of faith it requires for even a Catholic to believe in the assumption of Mary. For that I honor you. I think a lot of the Christian walk must be lived by faith. But of course, not being Catholic, I do not believe in the assumption of Mary. That won't come as a surprise to y'all though. :)

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[> Nesya -- Catie, 05:37:41 08/13/07 Mon [1] (h32.237.213.151.ip.alltel.net/151.213.237.32)

You mentioned several posts back about wanting to know my position on things, my religious beliefs. It's something I've given much thought to, whether or not to go in to detail about it. After all we have agreed to disagree here. Still, at the risk of coming across as unlearned or unsure of my answers, I have simply refrained, or held back on stating a lot of my own beliefs. This is a Catholic forum, so to go in to detail my faith, which contradicts Catholicism, seems as if I have come here to cause dissention or to be rude. Does that make sense? I will try to abbreviate what I believe.

I do believe a person consists of 3 parts. Body, soul and spirit. The spirit is breath. It is in fact the breath of God breathed into us that gives us our spirit. The mind holds our thoughts, our deeds, our memories, conscious. It can not function without breath, spirit. It is God's breath that brings to life all things. Together the spirit and the conscious create our soul. The body is but a house of that holds the soul. When we die the body fades, becomes dust if you will. But the breath of God that lives in us must go back to where it came from. We know the very breath of God isn't just going to "go away". So reasoning tells me it goes back to God. Your breath is life, but can not serve you if you don't have your conscious. It is safely in the arms of God. He holds it just as he did before we came to earth as a baby. We have no memory of such time because it requires a mind to hold memories. So where is our conscious? The bible speaks of the "soul" that it "sleeps" in death. Christ referred to the saints as "sleeping". Not as we know sleep, but a rest that has no sense of time, no knowledge. At the ressurection, When Christ returns, God will breath into us life, our spirit will return and he said we would have "new bodies". Why would the old body be needed if folks go straignt to heaven upon death and are ressurected later? God uses the old vessel because we know in heaven we will be recognizable in some way. He said we will be known as we are known here. So the old body will be recreated, given back the spirit, the breath of God and the two together will once again create our soul. That's why I believe no one can go straight to heaven upon death. There are exceptions- such as in the case of Elijah where God "took" him into glory. But the ones he made exceptions to , he spoke of in scripture and gave reason why he did so.

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[> [> Bumping for Neysa to read -- Catie, 19:34:56 08/14/07 Tue [1] (h32.237.213.151.ip.alltel.net/151.213.237.32)

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