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Subject: IS IT COMMON TO WEAR WIGS OR HAIRPIECES AT A PAGEANT COMPETITION/ wHO HAS DONE THIS?


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Date Posted: 22:12:49 12/25/24 Wed
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Subject: Does anyone have the link to view all 2025 contestant headshots?


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Date Posted: 10:01:49 12/11/24 Wed
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We are a few weeks away from the competition and it shouldn’t be this hard to locate on the Miss America website or social media …

Every link I find is broken.

If you have found the right one and can share, that would be wonderful!

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Subject: Miss America and Miss America’s Teen top 5 Predictions


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Date Posted: 16:10:45 12/05/24 Thu
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Subject: Miss 5: FL, AR, OH, WA, NY


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Date Posted: 13:52:35 12/06/24 Fri
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Subject: Lawsuit Update


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Date Posted: 15:02:17 12/21/24 Sat
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There is a hearing set for January 2, 2025, right in the middle of Miss America. This hearing is back with the state court (ie the original ownership case) and not in the federal court. Here’s what has happened recently:

1. Robin’s original $500 million federal lawsuit was dismissed without prejudice by a federal judge. The judge called it as “shotgun pleading,” which is a lawsuit that contains an excessive amount of facts without clear organization. The judge admonishes it for having 144 pages and over 800 paragraphs long, written by 6 attorneys in 2 different law firms. Judge says it is done “only to inflate the Complaint with unsavory information about Defendant Straub.” The judge points out the reference to the age of his girlfriend and the insensitive racial situation as two examples.

Robin has filed an amended version of the lawsuit that contains 104 pages this times.To me it reads aknots exactly the same as the first version, but obviously sections have been taken out to get the length down. Judge has not ruled on the validity of this version yet.

2. Glenn Straub revoked his Bankruptcy lawsuit and is now solely focused on winning in the state court with the original case. He is asking the judge to move forward with the ownership court case and to make a decision soon. While Robin is arguing that her case is back in the federal court and therefore she wants a “stay” with the state case, his attorneys will be arguing that she didn’t file a real amended case along the changes the judge asked, but instead just took out sections and re-filed quickly so that she could say that she does in fact have a case in federal court.

January 2 will be very interesting!

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Subject: “Now we know about the Opening Number dresses for MAP & MATP!!! Jovani had dropped Robyn because of the pending lawsuits and bad publicity! They do not want to be associated with such unscrupulous business tactics! Robyn has called BEGGING a reputable person/designer who is only willing to help the girls, not the pageant! There is NO FINANCIAL BACKING for MOA!!!!! Supporting ONLY to avoid further stress on the state title holders!!!! The donor’s only request is to be acknowledged in all MAO socials! “ WHO else has withdrawn their support??! Why would any reputable person or business even want to be behind such disgusting business sense? January 2nd is only days ahead for the virtual hearing. There may be a bigger ball drop in Florida than in NYC New Year’s Eve!


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Date Posted: 21:47:41 12/23/24 Mon
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Subject: Do you think the average American has any idea that there is a pageant this year?


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Date Posted: 19:45:59 12/17/24 Tue
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Subject: Lawsuit


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Date Posted: 08:44:06 12/05/24 Thu
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Are we allowed to talk about the lawsuit on here? Glenn filed for bankruptcy in the last week, and Robin filed a new $500 million lawsuit against Glenn this week. Any contestant/ contestant’s parents that sign any kind of contract with anyone involved in this mess is absolutely ludicrous at this point. I hope people wake up to the fact that this is not business as usual at this point. This is messy stuff. Every document is online to find out what’s going on, if you would just take the time to read. I can’t imagine a scenario where any of these girls would interview to work for a real company with a dispute of this magnitude going on.

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Subject: Since Miss America is becoming blah and girls are slowly running away from it, what systems should we be paying attention to? For pageant competitors and pageant fans?


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Date Posted: 09:57:38 12/21/24 Sat
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Subject: Countdown questions


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Date Posted: 16:57:04 12/13/24 Fri
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With the pageant starting in just over two weeks, will we ever know:

JUDGES
I predict it will be a panel of 3 of Robin’s Florida friends. Conservative woman, another of Robin’s florist, colorist, etc and maybe a lower-tiered USA colleague.

The Talent judges will be the same level as last year and will pick the most unique talents, not the most skilled

Final night Miss will be a mix of minor celebrities and more of her friends or employers. They will be offered to watch the Interviews, but won’t know anything about the Top 11.

No celebrity is going to judge over the holidays for free with no exposure

PRODUCTION
Has anyone been hired?
I assume the scripts will be identical to 2024, as they have no money to hire someone to write a new script.

Who will run rehearsals? No contestant was sent a waking pattern or choreography.

I know MissAmerica.tv is the rumor, but two weeks out, has anyone seen a pay wall for this??

Or a production company. Robin has sued the previous one. Twice.

If Robin had positive things to report in any of these areas, we would have heard by now. MAO needs some uplifting news.
Heck, they can’t even negotiate getting their own contestants photos secured on their own website

Fingers crossed that those who don’t a fortune to attend will get their money work.

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Subject:

VOTE FOR MISS DELEGATES
Vote For Teen Delegates


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Date Posted: 13:29:35 12/19/24 Thu
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Subject: Miss America 2026 will be held August 30th through September 7th.


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Date Posted: 10:26:51 12/21/24 Sat
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Moving the date up!

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Subject: Where will this lead?


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Date Posted: 20:26:48 12/07/24 Sat
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The pageant starts in three weeks.
No contestant information up
No judges announced (names, how many people/panels)
No broadcast/streaming news
No scholarship amounts
Who is the choreographer? Hosts? Producer?

All that is happening is lawsuits.
More each week
Infighting
Name calling
Hysteria

Robin Fleming has been around more drama in the last two years than Meryl Streep has in her entire career. What started as two statements that she “would never hold the pageant during the holidays “ and she has “enough money to keep Miss America going. for another 100 years” has become Screaming matches. Physical alteration claims. FBI visits. Bankruptcies. Wild financial claims. Unpaid scholarships. Numerous hearings. Countless lawyers.

So what happens on January 6th? We have a new Miss America who will be stuck in the middle of this mess. And then what? A long angry trail. And let’s say Robin holds on to control. What then? How is she going to run it? With whose money?

We have seen a long line of poor leadership, but IMO, this is rock bottom
I hope it ends soon

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Subject: Is the pageant still on NBC?


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Date Posted: 13:37:49 12/21/24 Sat
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Subject: Some puts a list of all the Miss with their talents and ssi. Has anyone seen this list for this Miss America pageant?


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Date Posted: 09:08:55 12/22/24 Sun
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Some puts a list of all the Miss with their talents and ssi. Has anyone seen this list for this Miss America pageant? If so please post

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Subject: The other day I swear I saw an image of a miss or teen (local or state titleholder) post a photo of them wearing /with a Miss America crown and sash. I am tryinng to figure out who it was and am trying to figure out which Miss America it was. If anyone knows of this please let me know who it was.


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Date Posted: 21:45:57 12/20/24 Fri
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Subject: Is there any news regarding when the pageant is, if we can watch online or TV, the hosts, location


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Date Posted: 23:15:36 12/15/24 Sun
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Subject: MISS AMERICA SCHOLARSHIP AWARDS


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Date Posted: 11:45:01 12/10/24 Tue
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They Just announced the scholarships awarded to the 2025 Class of Miss America/Teen:

WINNER: $50,000 (Miss/Teen)
1st - 4th RU: $10,000 (Miss/Teen)

Prelims (Talent, Eve, Fitness) : $3,000 (Miss Teem)

Top AHA Fundraiser: $10,000 (Miss/Teen)


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Now, I am a long time supporter of this organization, and not in a clutch-my-pearls way, and I recognize that this organization is mid crisis: and for that I've been giving Robin lots of grace.

But scholarships used to be awarded to all 51 (now 52) contestants, and it was a big part of what differentiated Miss America from Miss USA: That it was not a winner takes all program.

Last year, for the first time in decades, only the top 10 received scholarships. This year, it's only the top 5. We are going in the wrong direction.

It will cost the average family of four +/- $9K to go to Miss America this year, including tickets, credentials, lodging and airfare. This is before that contestant raises the mandatory $3,000 for AHA participation, and doesn't include entry fees, wardrobe, and the many things that some states just can't provide.

Robin has a blind spot when it comes to how pageantry works in smaller non-sash states, and this proves it.

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Subject: No Wikipedia Info


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Date Posted: 11:16:52 12/07/24 Sat
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For the first time Wikipedia has absolutely no info on Miss America 2025.. Im curious as to why nothing as been produced

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Subject: I saw one of the Miss contestants post on Facebook that she leaves for the pageant in 10 days


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Date Posted: 04:26:40 12/18/24 Wed
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Subject: Miss USA 2025 state pageant dates (updated as of November 28, 2024)


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Date Posted: 19:22:44 11/28/24 Thu
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With Miss USA 2025 haven't announced the date, several states have their pageants scheduled:

January 26: Connecticut
February 16: Virginia
March 9: Oklahoma
March 23: Kansas
March 30: Delaware
April 5: Indiana
April 6: Nebraska
April 13: Arkansas
May 3: Texas (Miss)
May 4: Nevada
May 4: Texas (Teen)
May 11: Maine
May 11: Missouri
May 25: Florida
May 25: Illinois
May 31: West Virginia
June 15: Massachusetts

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Subject: Crossovers


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Date Posted: 11:15:42 12/16/24 Mon
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Does anyone know if any of this years contestants won at USA and has crossed over?

This is the first year that the contestants pics and info is hard to find

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Subject: Did anyone see the Business Insider article? It states that Robin first tried to purchase Miss Universe but they did their due diligence and found that Glen had choked a young woman so they wouldn’t sell it to Robin. So MAO was her second choice and this clearly shows she knew about Glens character prior to getting involved in MAO.


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Subject: Miss NC Class of 2025


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Date Posted: 07:37:51 12/01/24 Sun
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https://missnc.org/class-of-2025/#miss-class-of-2024

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Subject: It was 2010, and both USA are from Michigan!


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Subject: It was 2010, and both USA are Michigan! 


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Subject: To be fair, the miss USA field this year was trash. But this also exposes Paula Shugart, it is fair to say within the past decade over half of miss usas had no business making the final cut. They got in on Paula save


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Subject: It was a very strong year! I predict Chile or Denmark winning.


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Date Posted: 21:06:14 11/16/24 Sat
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Subject: Seems like Robyn has done everything she can... What else can she do?


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Subject: Kyleen Barker looked ethereal when she did her farewell walk. She was the embodiment of what the general public would expect a Miss America to look like


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