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Subject: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


Author:
Anna
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Date Posted: 09:29:03 09/04/24 Wed

When by siblings and I were growing up into our late teens, our parents told us that as long as we live under their roof, and they are supporting us financially we would be spanked as deemed necessary no matter our age.

My brother received his last spanking at the age of 19, this is only because he joined the military. My youngest sister was 24 because she stayed living our parents while she attended a local college. I received my last spanking at age 22 right before I got married.

Back then, we thought that it was cruel and very embarrassing to be put over our parents' knee as a late teen or college student. My siblings and I are now thankful that our parents loved us enough to discipline us even as a late teen and college student.

My late husband and I decided to raise our children the same way. My sister and brother are raising my nieces and nephews the same way. I am not saying that we are strict, but we do have rules that we expect them to follow no matter how old they are. They all know that there are consequences if the rules are not followed. I am not saying they are spanked every time, but they all know that discipline will remain on the table as long as they stay with us.

My children are ages 14, 15, 17,18 and 20 and all have been spanked this year. My nieces and nephews are 13 to 21 and they have all been spanked this year also.

Parents, I would like your opinion on this and if you intend to continue to discipline/spank you late teens and college students as long as you are supporting them financially and living under your roof.

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[> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Rebecca
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Date Posted: 11:35:27 09/04/24 Wed

I do not disagree with your right to spank your kids so long as they are living under your roof,I only wonder why it is necessary to this degree.

I am a very pro-spanking grandma who raised five kids. Of the five only two needed spankings in their teen years. One just a little bit, and the other more, not getting her last until seventeen. Because her level of maturity still needed it when she went away to college I warned her she was not too old to go over my knee. But it was not necessary.

When my kids asked when they would be too old for spanking I told them what my mother told me. Spanking is a childish punishment, they are too old for it when they quit acting like children! Because I believe spanking works I don't think (nor have I observed) it is needed with older kiddos, at least to a far lesser degree (when they persist in acting like immature children despite chronological age).

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[> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Angela (Surely)
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Date Posted: 11:44:42 09/04/24 Wed

Hi Anna
I have a boy (11) and a girl (13). I spank them when I consider convenient to do it, and I have no plans to change it in the near future. How long? Surely while they were in our house, and longer if I can do it and they do not oppose, because I consider it is a very convenient and beneficial mother's work for them. That is the same reason for I do it now.

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jamesdonaldson
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Date Posted: 15:34:55 09/04/24 Wed

I have a daughter 13 and son 10. I also have a niece (15) that I also spank when needed.

I will spank them as long as they live with us.

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[> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Sophie
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Date Posted: 14:33:25 09/04/24 Wed

I am 16 & my sis is 13. last October mom started giving us paddle licks. She said it was her house & she was sick of the way we acted. I admit the licks are not always undeserved and I have gotten better. we live in south US where spanking is still popular with parents so we are not the only spanked teens.

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[> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Laura
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Date Posted: 15:47:56 09/04/24 Wed

There is nothing wrong with spanking teenagers. I grew up and teach middle school in East Texas. After school today there were a half dozen kids sitting in the office nervously awaiting their appointment with the VP!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Sophie
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Date Posted: 15:15:52 09/05/24 Thu

I live in south also. They give swats in my high school and lil sis's middle school. I have never gotten it. Sis has twice! do you think this really does any good. I do not and science is on my side.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Slfred22
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Date Posted: 12:16:29 09/07/24 Sat

How long has your school been open for the Fall? That seems like a large number of students getting licks so early in the school year. Were they all sure to feel the paddle? Or can the AP assign alternative punishments?

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Laura
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Date Posted: 13:14:02 09/07/24 Sat

We have been in school for a month. We start way too early IMHO!

Of course there are punishments other than paddling. But paddling is not an unusual consequence. The way it works is a child is reported to the office. If the VP determines a paddling is in order she gives them a day to report, the time is generally at the end of the school day.

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[> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Brett
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Date Posted: 16:30:54 09/04/24 Wed

Though I only got spanked til the age of 15, like you and others here, I must come back again and again and again to talk about spanking, and pretty much saying the same things every time. It can become an obsession.

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[> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Thea
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Date Posted: 19:21:16 09/04/24 Wed

I miss when there were more people on this forum talking about spanking adults or their own childhood memories and fewer people talking positively about spanking children as though it hasn't been proven to damage the brain and increase risk for depression and anxiety, amongst other negative effects.

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Sophie
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Date Posted: 15:06:18 09/05/24 Thu

Thank you Thea. Are you a teacher? I have tried to convince mom of spanking dangers. She will have none of it but did at least listen. We are having better talks these days and less lickings.

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Maddie
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Date Posted: 13:54:17 09/07/24 Sat

I am also a teacher. I have always been anti-spanking. I have read all of the research on both sides. I find that the pro-spanking research is done with bias. However, as I've been teaching and working with children for a few years now I've gotten to know the kiddos and their parents. I have a good idea which ones use spanking in their homes and which do not. It's not scientific, but I have in recent years softened my opposition to spanking. Many of the kids who I know or strongly suspect receive corporal punishment at home are very intelligent, well behaved, well adjusted and socialize very well, whereas some of the kids who I am certain do not and likely never have received a spanking are some of the worst kids you will ever see.

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Michael
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Date Posted: 07:11:54 09/23/24 Mon

I think it's great that a woman like Maddie, who is a teacher and already has to observe and judge as part of her job, has changed her attitude towards spanking. Yes, the studies and so-called scientific reports say that spanking harms children. I think it depends on whether someone is getting spanked or being mistreated. I come from a generation in which it was still common in my country to punish your children with a spanking, sometimes a thorough spanking. And none of those around me have become criminals, idiots or psychopaths, as the so-called pundits always want you to believe will happen. What I've noticed is that since spanking was banned, violence among young people and the disregard for rules and boundaries has become rampant.

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Reader
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Date Posted: 07:22:17 09/23/24 Mon

Let's be clear, Maddie didn't say that she has changed her opinion or her attitude towards spanking. She said she has SOFTENED HER OPPOSITION. That is something QUITE different.

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Anna to Michael
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Date Posted: 06:45:55 09/24/24 Tue

Michael,
I whole hardly agree with you. Since parents have stopped disciplining or spanking their teens, they are ruining our society.

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Micchael
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Date Posted: 16:31:09 09/24/24 Tue

Anna.
I´m not that good in english but if I´m right, you disagree. In what point? Iwrote: What I've noticed is that since spanking was banned, violence among young people and the disregard for rules and boundaries has become rampant. And you wrote: Since parents have stopped disciplining or spanking their teens, they are ruining our society. What is the big different?

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Maddie
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Date Posted: 17:28:01 09/24/24 Tue

If you can't understand or comprehend what I wrote how can you even begin to understand or comprehend any data or research. That is NOT what I said asshole, and don't put words in my mouth.
Please show your data to back up your asinine statement.

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Stephan (to Maddie)
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Date Posted: 07:30:06 09/24/24 Tue

You say "pro-spanking" research is done with bias". I have news for you Maddie. All research is done with bias. It generally starts with an opinion. Then the person or group doing the research gathers as much data as they can to "prove" their opinion is fact. That data will mainly include reading the opinions of others who share their view. Then the actual research, a general question is put forth then a target or control group is selected. People from that group are then surveyed. When the researcher gathers that information it is often studied with bias. The main part of what is included are the responses that prove the opinion of the researcher most other data is dismissed. The claim that "spanking causes anti-social behavior." The people who are surveyed are often people who have experienced backlash from their own experiences. Such as domestic violence, assault, and even murder. Also people who have experienced such conditions ad bi-polar disorder, depression and so forth. They are asked questions about their childhood environment leaning heavily on corporal punishment. Other contributing factors are often downplayed if not dismissed outright. I could go on, but suffice it to say, there is no such thing as an 'unbiased study".

Also, many so-called "Researchers" don't actually conduct studies of their own. They simply parrot the "results" of studies conducted by others. Mostly those who agree with their own personal bias.

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Cassie
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Date Posted: 05:08:54 09/19/24 Thu

Thea, agreed. There does seem to be a recent infiltration of members glorifying physically disciplining children and pastors, churches and other adults in authority encouraging parents to harshly discipline their children. They seem to be growing more militant about their 'right' to post on this group and dominate the conversation. There are a lot of other groups that cater to this type of thing and personally I feel they should go there.

On the other hand Thea, I admire your bravery (and many others on here) for pursuing your lifelong interests. I would like to hear more of your experiences. I hope that you (and others) will be more vocal on here for more lively 'adult' conversation.

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Dee
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Date Posted: 02:33:19 09/05/24 Thu

Girls 17 and 15 still spanked here bare bottom OTK with hairbrush

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[> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Alfred22 for Sophie
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Date Posted: 08:00:50 09/06/24 Fri

We are all rooting for you and for your sis. Glad that the frequency of paddle applications is diminishing and that you can discuss it safely with your mother.

The science on spanking is less than rigorous since there is no way to do the usual control group type study. What might convince your mother more effectively would be to appeal to her own experience as a late teen. When did your mom get her last spanking? How did grandma determine that she had outgrown the need for it?

Sis getting two school spankings is a bit worrisome. Did she earn them herself or were they part of a group punishment? Did she comment on them or complain about her bottom being sore?

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Laura
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Date Posted: 13:21:52 09/07/24 Sat

I have followed Sophie's posts, which I believe are indicative of how spanking can help a child grow and mature. Sophie has! Congrats to her and her mom!

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Rex
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Date Posted: 15:56:09 09/07/24 Sat

These are fantasies. Don't encourage people to hit children or you're going to jail if you actually do it. The most comical one here is "are used to not be supportive, but I found the kids were very intelligent, who were beaten" shut the fuck up.

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Maddie
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Date Posted: 16:16:56 09/07/24 Sat

That's not what I said, asshole.

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Laura
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Date Posted: 20:38:22 09/07/24 Sat

You certainly did not, and I know exactly what you meant. I've seen it myself.

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Destiny
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Date Posted: 23:12:14 09/07/24 Sat

My pastor's wife gave us an article by Selwyn Duke that made a wise point on this:

The failure to spank your children is not just a difference, but a symptom. People who won’t lay a hand or switch on their child's bare bottom embrace a completely different parenting philosophy than those who will.

The difference is not just that they won’t apply the rod — it’s that they lack what I call a 'rod mentality.'

That is to say, to such parents, discipline is often a dirty word. They tend to be overly permissive, set poor examples, be inconsistent in moral guidance and not teach responsibility. They are unlikely to view themselves as absolute authority figures but, rather, will treat the family as a democracy (without a constitution). They are more apt to want to be buddies than parents to their children.


Destiny

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VoR
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Date Posted: 18:51:56 09/09/24 Mon

That is just someone's opinion. Anyone can write an article.

No one in my family has had a 'rod mentality' for decades, though other forms of discipline are and have been used. Everyone is doing okay to great. Mountains of research involving other families support my experience.

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Destiny
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Date Posted: 13:56:16 09/17/24 Tue

The point this person was making was that it was not the actual spanking which made the difference, but that families which spank tend to run a more disciplined structured household.

While I am a believer in spanking, I know there are parents who have what he calls a "rod mentality" without ever once laying a hand across their child's bottom, and raise wonderful children. This is in contrast to the common result of modern permissive parenting.

Destiny

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VoR
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Date Posted: 23:49:58 09/19/24 Thu

"The failure to spank your children is not just a difference, but a symptom. People who won’t lay a hand or switch on their child's bare bottom embrace a completely different parenting philosophy than those who will."

How is this a statement that allows for parents who do not physically punish their children to be effective disciplinarians? And then what is "rod mentality?" If it's not about laying a hand or switch on a "child's bare bottom," then why offer that lurid concept as its definition?

Permissive is also a subjective term. What kinds of children do we want to raise? If we're just going to throw out examples we know in order to justify our opinions, I've known adults who were raised with a "rod mentality" who are unethical, bitter control freaks, and lack compassion for others.

Bottom line, there are all kinds of people raised all kinds of ways, and there is no real evidence that "families which spank" are creating more wonderful children than those who don't.

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stripey7
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Date Posted: 14:21:18 09/11/24 Wed

While this may be true in some cases, there's no necessary relationship between these things. My parents had relatively few rules but enforced the ones they set, and this didn't change when they stopped spanking and started to rely on other punishments instead.

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SJ
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Date Posted: 08:01:15 09/19/24 Thu

As far as I am concerned, any religious organisation that advocates the frequent beating of children or older females is not a church/synagogue/mosque but a cult. And that last word was not a misprint lol!

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Emmie Sue
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Date Posted: 04:42:31 09/09/24 Mon

You go, Maddie!!!
And mister, that's not what she said. She said her opposition has softened after seeing the results for herself.

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Cassie
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Date Posted: 05:18:43 09/19/24 Thu

Frankly anyone in a position of authority encouraging parents to beat their children in the name of the Lord needs to be removed from that position. 'Rod mentality'? Really?
I'm not entirely opposed to giving a child a spanking when deserved. I think there are times when it can be effective and some children respond well to it while others don't.

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[> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Alfred22
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Date Posted: 08:15:50 09/16/24 Mon

For spanking to work, everyone (parents and children) has to be on board. And for this to happen, the spankings cannot be too intense/firm. As an intuitive measure of just how hard they can be, they should not be abusive by Child Protective Services standards. What are those standards?

X got an abusive over the line spanking when there are photographable marks showing 24 hours after the spanking.

No doubt most of us got marks that showed afterwards. Few of us got marks that were clearly visible a day later. Thus, by the usual definition of abusive, few of us were abused. Another criterion for intensity is whether the child is considering running away from home to avoid another spanking.

I believe that in the homes Maddie is speaking of where spanking is a consequence employed by the parents, the spankings are infrequent and none of them rises to the level of being abusive.

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[> Subject: Re: Spanking of our Older Teens and College Students


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Karen
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Date Posted: 09:50:01 10/07/24 Mon

I am 18 and in college I am in the commons relaxing before my next class I live in the dorms during the week and go home on weekends my college is two hours away from where I live in Texas . My parents paddle me when I am home if I need it our paddle is shaped like a cutting board . I gave my parents my school portal log in so they can hold me accountable . I got a parking ticket on campus last week so Friday night my dad gave me four swats with the paddle . When I am home I have a curfew 12 o’clock my two younger sisters 11 I clock curfew . My sisters are 17 and16

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Cliff (to Karen)
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Date Posted: 19:11:07 10/07/24 Mon

When given the paddle at home, is it bare bottom or over clothing? Since you are 18, I guess you just ebtered college 5 or 6 weeks ago? How many of those weekends have you been paddled? How often would you say it happened during high school?

You say, "I gave my parents my school portal log in so they can hold me accountable" It sounds like you are in agreement with the need to be held accountable.

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Karen for Cliff
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Date Posted: 10:54:30 10/08/24 Tue

When I am spanked at home I am bare from the waist down I put my hands on the desk in my room and dad is behind me with the paddle and gives me my swats I do cry . Afterwards I get a hug and a kiss . I do support being held accountable . The only time so far was the parking ticket

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Cliff
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Date Posted: 12:18:48 10/08/24 Tue

Thank you for responding.

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Wondering-supportive
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Date Posted: 13:16:49 10/08/24 Tue

So, at what age did your parents began paddling you and your sisters bare bottom? I understand you support how you are spanked, but did or do you find it embarrassing when paddling time comes? And have or do your parents spank in other ways such as the belt or over the knee, and are all of you ever not allowed to keep your tops on even say for very serious matters?

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Karen for wondering supportive
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Date Posted: 13:25:27 10/08/24 Tue

It is a little embarrassing we can always keep tops on dad alows us to get into position before he comes upstairs to our room with the paddle which hangs up on the foot of the stairs . My parents do not use a belt my boyfriend’s parents use a strap on him and his sisters . We were spanked over the knee when we were little and got the wooden spoon we called it the spanking spoon .

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Wondering-supportive
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Date Posted: 13:41:59 10/08/24 Tue

How old is your boyfriend and is he strapped the same way you are, bent over with shirt on?

You mentioned that you would use a strap if your spouse if you marry wanted to use one. Would you also spank in other ways or just either with the paddle or strap? And how does it make you feel knowing he is strapped, either excitement or sympathy?

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Karen for wondering supportive
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Date Posted: 14:41:39 10/08/24 Tue

He is 18 he can keep his shirt on by his dad bent over his desk his younger sisters the same way . We got engaged over the summer but we promised both parents to wait til we graduate college . He goes to the same college it is a Christian College so no coed dorms we see each other at the commons on breaks between classes . When the are old enough he would do most of the spanking . I feel a little of both of excitement and sympathy he is the same way . It is a long split tail strap also called a tawse it splits in two on the part the hits the bottom making it hurt more . His dad keeps it oiled to keep the leather from drying out

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Wondering-supportive
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Date Posted: 14:51:44 10/08/24 Tue

If you had the choice, would you want to watch your boyfriend getting the tawse or have him watch you? I ask because you expressed some excitement when you have either heard about it and or thought about it?

Will he be a spanking parent like you and does he too accept that the strappings help to keep his misbehaviors in line.

Do you two share with each other when your disciplined and if so who gets punished the most and what if any is the usual reason?

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Karen for wondering supportive
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Date Posted: 15:29:32 10/08/24 Tue

I would not choose to watch him get strapped or him watch me get paddled . We are both devout Christians I heard him getting strapped once i was in third family room to watch the movie with thier family room he was was in his parents bedrooms getting strapped he came out crying we were both 16 at the time . We get it about the same and not often his younger sisters and my younger sisters get it more . He is as pro spanking as me and will make a good husband and father . The last paddling I got was for a parking ticket his was a few fridays ago for insisting his mom do his laundry he continued after being told to stop and do his own laundry so his dad strapped him

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Alfred22
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Date Posted: 16:08:36 10/08/24 Tue

Did you feel sorry for him or did he clearly insult his mother? In which case, perhaps you thought he earned it? When it is a little kid and they are pleading for no more licks and their plaintive crying is answered with more and sometimes harder spanks, it is hard not to feel for them. Especially when you know all too well how much it stings.

Did he overhear your last one, the one for a parking ticket? Did he sympathize or return the favor and say You earned it!

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Karen for Alfred
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Date Posted: 08:32:04 10/09/24 Wed

He defended was over the line and deserved the strapping we are engaged now and he said he would do the same thing if a child of ours insult me . He did not hear my last spanking but he knows all about because we talk about it .

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Alfred22 for Karen
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Date Posted: 12:44:48 10/11/24 Fri

What do you think you will use as a spanking mom? The paddle or a spanking strap? Will you use whatever your husband prefers? Which do you think would be the better choice?

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Belle
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Date Posted: 06:55:41 11/02/24 Sat

I was spanked by my parents throughout high school and college. The agreement was they paid for my tuition but I was subject to their discipline. It was an easy decision for me. So when I would come home from college, I was given a spanking and another one right before I left. I felt more focused and centered going back to college with a sore bottom. After college, I struggled to find a job and had to move back home and was still given their discipline. Looking back, I know they were trying to keep me on the right path and I’m thankful for their guidance

Plus the post spanking hugs and cuddles are the best

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Sarah for belle
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Date Posted: 07:18:16 11/02/24 Sat

I went to a College a short drive from home I lived at home had a weekend and summer job as a server in a family restaurant the 5 am to 2 shift busy and I was subject to rules including curfew I got one for violation of curfew . That wound up being my last spanking I got married in the summer two months after that spanking my husband and I finished college as married students

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Belle
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Date Posted: 07:21:00 11/02/24 Sat

Did your husband take over spanking responsiblities?

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Sarah for Belle
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Date Posted: 08:19:26 11/02/24 Sat

Yes he did take over spanking duties I wanted him too . He does not have to get it often

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